(10-04-2024, 03:58 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Why is this so hard to understand, it's not up to him, it's up to the Raiders. The only say he has is if he quits. If he wants to come back, the Raiders own him. Now, it would be nice if the Raiders let him come home to Cincinnati, but if the Bengals offered a 5th rounder, and somebody else offered a 4th rounder, who's deal do you think the Raiders are taking? Unless he has a no trade clause, which as a rookie I doubt he has, he has zero say about it.

It's not hard for me to understand but I'm just looking at it logically.

He might say that the only place he would play is Cincinnati, so why would any other team try to trade for him?

Also, teams might be scared from trying to even trade for him, but we know he'd be good here since he'd be home.

Furthermore, if he was really struggling that much at Notre Dame while being messed up mentally and was still good enough to be drafted 35th, just imagine how good he could be if he was in the right mind and comfortable with everything.

(10-04-2024, 04:13 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Also, teams might be scared from trying to even trade for him, but we know he'd be good here since he'd be home.

No we don't.  Again if the rumors are true and he is struggling being away from home, something the vast majority of NFL players deal with, then perhaps he just doesn't have the mental strength to play in the NFL.  

(10-04-2024, 02:52 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Like I said, he's a young man that is struggling being away from home, which would be a non-issue if he were back home and he could live up to his potential.

I get your skepticism but, after the team interviews him and makes sure he's still into it, the upside seems to good to pass on.

Hudson and a sixth or seventh if needed.

He just turned 23 in July, so he still has a lot left to develop and mature.

He could be completely done, but I still have faith because I think the upside would be amazing.

Cool, I am down with it.

(10-03-2024, 07:13 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Apparently, Michael Mayer is away from the Raiders with no timetable for return due to personal issues.

I always say that Northern Kentucky is a bubble so we had this information (that he wanted to quit) a few days ago and apparently it's because he's adapting well to the big city and is homesick.

He was always outgoing and nice but he never really seemed like the cocky football player that wanted all the attention.

Anyways, we need a tight end and he'd be one of the best we've ever had.

He hasn't lived up to the pre-draft hype of being Baby Gronk, and maybe them drafting Bowers messed him up in the head, but, if we could get him to sign here, I think his brain could be back in it and he could live up to his potential.

Imagine Burrow having Mayer up the hashmarks or over the middle and teams selling out to stop him while also trying to double Chase.

Any chance of it happening?

Would you be for it?

Eric All is better

(10-04-2024, 04:19 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: No we don't.  Again if the rumors are true and he is struggling being away from home, something the vast majority of NFL players deal with, then perhaps he just doesn't have the mental strength to play in the NFL.  

He sounds like a wuss to me... If his mental capacity is that of a 4 yr old, I pass!

(10-04-2024, 04:19 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: No we don't.  Again if the rumors are true and he is struggling being away from home, something the vast majority of NFL players deal with, then perhaps he just doesn't have the mental strength to play in the NFL.  

Yes, we do.

His abilities are still there. It's a mental thing.

Being around his friends and family at the end of the day would get his mind back to football and he'd excel in his play.

Maybe he really is done, but I think he'd kill it here because he'd be the hometown hero and everyone would worship him.

(10-04-2024, 07:32 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Yes, we do.

His abilities are still there. It's a mental thing.

Being around his friends and family at the end of the day would get his mind back to football and he'd excel in his play.

Maybe he really is done, but I think he'd kill it here because he'd be the hometown hero and everyone would worship him.

No one can argue about his production at Notre Dame. He is much more talented as an all around TE than Hudson that is for sure.

Mayer can block.

(10-04-2024, 08:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: No one can argue about his production at Notre Dame. He is much more talented as an all around TE than Hudson that is for sure.

Mayer can block.

He's also a solid receiver. 

Check out his rookie highlights and tell me that Burrow wouldn't love to have him as a target and that he wouldn't open things up for everyone else.

I have no problem bringing him here if that's what he wants. I just think the Raiders will ask too much.

I just don't see the need for Mayer this season. If this is an off-season deal and we are saying goodbye to Gesicki then yes lets do it.

All is going to be our stud tight end for many years to come. Mayer would be the 2nd banana.

(10-05-2024, 01:22 PM)QueenCity Wrote: I just don't see the need for Mayer this season.  If this is an off-season deal and we are saying goodbye to Gesicki then yes lets do it.

All is going to be our stud tight end for many years to come. Mayer would be the 2nd banana.

Why does everyone want to get rid of Gesicki already? This entire talk of bring in someone that still has his mommy's teets in his mouth is absolutely stupid.

(10-05-2024, 01:46 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Why does everyone want to get rid of Gesicki already? This entire talk of bring in someone that still has his mommy's teets in his mouth is absolutely stupid.

I don't recall me saying I want to get rid of Gesicki... if I did please cite the source.

However knowing how Uzomah, Hurst played out I recon Gesicki will leave for a higher salary. 

So yes if the the above comes true i would bring in Mayer as the 2nd banana. 

(10-04-2024, 04:13 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: It's not hard for me to understand but I'm just looking at it logically.

He might say that the only place he would play is Cincinnati, so why would any other team try to trade for him?

Also, teams might be scared from trying to even trade for him, but we know he'd be good here since he'd be home.

Furthermore, if he was really struggling that much at Notre Dame while being messed up mentally and was still good enough to be drafted 35th, just imagine how good he could be if he was in the right mind and comfortable with everything.

Why would we trade for a guy that would hypothetically only play here?  Just wait for him to be cut and put in a claim.  I'm not opposed to giving him a look if he becomes available, but I wouldn't give up anything to see if maybe he can get it together here.

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If he came here, we might be able to trade Hudson or the rookie to a TE needy team for a DT, but SF is in need of a DT as well so I don't see it happening.

(10-03-2024, 07:13 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Apparently, Michael Mayer is away from the Raiders with no timetable for return due to personal issues.

I always say that Northern Kentucky is a bubble so we had this information (that he wanted to quit) a few days ago and apparently it's because he's adapting well to the big city and is homesick.

He was always outgoing and nice but he never really seemed like the cocky football player that wanted all the attention.

Anyways, we need a tight end and he'd be one of the best we've ever had.

He hasn't lived up to the pre-draft hype of being Baby Gronk, and maybe them drafting Bowers messed him up in the head, but, if we could get him to sign here, I think his brain could be back in it and he could live up to his potential.

Imagine Burrow having Mayer up the hashmarks or over the middle and teams selling out to stop him while also trying to double Chase.

Any chance of it happening?

Would you be for it?

Tight end is the least of our needs right now

Need to get him. He’s from here and good.

I also forgot to mention something that might have played a part in him being homesick at Notre Dame and then in Vegas"


He graduated early his senior year and enrolled at Norte Dame after Christmas, so the fact that he didn't get the whole senior year experience and everything might have played a big part in that, which being home might make him better.

(10-04-2024, 04:19 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: No we don't.  Again if the rumors are true and he is struggling being away from home, something the vast majority of NFL players deal with, then perhaps he just doesn't have the mental strength to play in the NFL.  

I don't see how those things are related. 

Now, I would say he perhaps doesn't have the mental strength to be an explorer or astronaut. 

do explorers still exist

(10-06-2024, 08:33 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: do explorers still exist

Sure, why not? In the Amazon, underwater, underground, and space. Just because you have a map of what the planet looks like on the surface doesn't mean you actually know what's where in detail.