(10-06-2024, 06:57 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Having started an incredibly disappointing 1-4, they need to make a statement that this is unacceptable. The most obvious immediate statement would be to fire Lou, because this defense is just embarrassingly bad right now.

Agreed 100%, but they kept Pollock all these years costing us a SB and an AFC Championship, Lou is smiling saying Im not going anywhere, its the Browns and for them to make those changes means THEY have to do some work.

(10-06-2024, 07:12 PM)Gohards Wrote: You just said what can we realistically do, then you suggest to trade tee? Could you really see the front office doing that… would never happen.

What we can realistically do the rest of the season (because this is exactly what will happen) is go on a little run, win approximately 7-8 out of the remaining games, have our playoff hopes up until about week 17 until we are mathematically eliminated. End the season right around .500, look a little promising to get our hopes in for next year, all while we mess up our chances of a top 10 draft pick

I do not disagree necessarily but I am trying to be positive here and come up with any ideas or plans to improve that make sense. Those were my only ideas but was hoping to hear some others. 

Thank you for your post though!  

(10-06-2024, 06:45 PM)CloeHokie Wrote: Well, here we are again my friends. I did not think we would be here for a LONG time but we are a bad football team again.

I want to bash this team and coaches as bad as the next guy.

What can we realistically do the rest of the season? Taylor is not going anywhere.

Do we trade Tee for instance for some draft picks or defensive players? Why not at this point? If so what could we get for him?

Can a new DC make a big difference or is this a roster issue?

I like that we ate a lot of clock trying to help our defense. Does anyone else have any good ideas of what we could do going forward? Even if not for this season like trading Tee for picks etc.

PLEASE - No doom and gloom. Enough of that everywhere else. (And I enjoy venting as much as the next guy or gal)

PS - I love you all and thank you for your support during this depressing time. If we Bengals fans are good at anything it is hope and support.

I probably wouldn't trade Tee just yet but it's a couple more losses away from doing that. It seems like Lous scheme is not only tough for a secondary to pull off but it's not prone for turnovers/picks. Way too many bad throws today to not make them pay for it was a killer.

Hire a true general manager, I believe it starts there. Someone not affiliated with the bengals. Really look at scouting time for changes ther next to a no brainer qb pick and receiver out #1 picks have sucked for years. Look at all the linemen we have wiffed at. Lots of lost capital. We had a good two year run. What else can we hope for..

Who day

Plan to strongly consider moving to a 3-4 or 3-3-5. The Bengals don't have 4-3 DEs that can pass rush, and can't seem to address the problem in the draft or FA. The team currently has enough DTs for a 3-4 rotation with more good LBs than LB spots. Dialing up pressure from a 3-4 should easier than trusting Hendrickson to solve the problem on his own.

(10-06-2024, 06:45 PM)CloeHokie Wrote: Well, here we are again my friends. I did not think we would be here for a LONG time but we are a bad football team again.

I want to bash this team and coaches as bad as the next guy.

What can we realistically do the rest of the season? Taylor is not going anywhere.

Do we trade Tee for instance for some draft picks or defensive players? Why not at this point? If so what could we get for him?

Can a new DC make a big difference or is this a roster issue?

I like that we ate a lot of clock trying to help our defense. Does anyone else have any good ideas of what we could do going forward? Even if not for this season like trading Tee for picks etc.

PLEASE - No doom and gloom. Enough of that everywhere else. (And I enjoy venting as much as the next guy or gal)

PS - I love you all and thank you for your support during this depressing time. If we Bengals fans are good at anything it is hope and support.

Not sure why so many are excited to get draft picks for Tee?

We obviously need Tee for this offense to work and we cant draft worth shit.  If we had KC's personnel department this would be a very reasonable idea. 

(10-07-2024, 01:24 AM)puddycat Wrote: Plan to strongly consider moving to a 3-4 or 3-3-5.  The Bengals don't have 4-3 DEs that can pass rush, and can't seem to address the problem in the draft or FA.  The team currently has enough DTs for a 3-4 rotation with more good LBs than LB spots.  Dialing up pressure from a 3-4 should easier than trusting Hendrickson to solve the problem on his own.

We do not have the personnel to run a true 3-4 defense.

This team doesnt have a true NT.
This team has one 5T DT and he was signed off the street a week ago. 
This team has ZERO edge rushing LBs.  

(10-07-2024, 01:35 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Not sure why so many are excited to get draft picks for Tee?

We obviously need Tee for this offense to work and we cant draft worth shit.  If we had KC's personnel department this would be a very reasonable idea. 

It’s better than losing him for nothing.

(10-06-2024, 06:48 PM)Synric Wrote: Won't help. Lou brought thr Blitz package today and Lamar either easily read ir because of usage (Sam at MIKE lol) or zero 1 on 1 wins. 

It is a coach issue not a player issue. When every DB on the field is watching the QB and letting WR run open in the endzone that is coached or every eye would not be in the backfield. Same with stripping balls over making tackles its coached to them. The reason we cannot get youth on the field to develop them is because the system is too complicated and the DC refuses to change. Could we have some better players yes, but Lou has been here when everyone of these guys was brought to the team except Hubbard.

(10-07-2024, 01:37 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: It’s better than losing him for nothing.

That is truly the only logical argument.  I would think they would have to tag him again next year.  It wouldn't be a "bad" deal.  

(10-07-2024, 01:37 AM)casear2727 Wrote: We do not have the personnel to run a true 3-4 defense.

This team doesnt have a true NT.
This team has one 5T DT and he was signed off the street a week ago. 
This team has ZERO edge rushing LBs.  

We do not need a 3-4 defense we need a 4-3 defense.

3-4 would be upgrade over what we run now but yeah personnel fits 4-3 better at this point in time.

(10-07-2024, 01:40 AM)BengalsBong Wrote: We do not need a 3-4 defense we need a 4-3 defense.

3-4 would be upgrade over what we run now but yeah personnel fits 4-3 better at this point in time.

If we had the personnel for a 4-3 defense we would have one that worked.  We have no pass rush outside of Trey and as was said no NT, although our rookies may be capable of playing UT. 

By 2026 the only DL under contract will be: Murphy, Johnson, Jenkins, and Jackson.  I'd love for them to set the world on fire, but I'm not holding my breath.  Meanwhile we're dialing up blitzes and crowding our safeties, which isn't working as a pass rush or as pass defense.  Clearly it's easier to find LBs than DL right now.

(10-06-2024, 07:19 PM)GodFather Wrote: Agreed 100%, but they kept Pollock all these years costing us a SB and an AFC Championship, Lou is smiling saying Im not going anywhere, its the Browns and for them to make those changes means THEY have to do some work.

Reduce their salary to 100K a year and force them to quit.

(10-07-2024, 06:57 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Reduce their salary to 100K a year and force them to quit.

Coaches have contracts too you know.