(10-21-2024, 11:40 AM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: That’s it. Talent. With Zac, even superior talent isn’t enough. People still recall how awful he was at UC, I assume.

same zac taylor that has taken the team to the superbowl, AFC championship and conference championships two out of the last three years.althought it would be fun to see what Hue jackson could do with Burrow, etc...there would be some good energy there......of course, there might be stuff going on that we are unaware of..I still dont think Burrow is nearly 100%..But..@ least we have a professional NFL team that we can yell about..LOve our Bengals but I think that this will be the year of Detroit and KC..keep up the great posts

(10-21-2024, 09:16 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I don't feel that is the case, at all. What I do think is that he's so caught up in being a "nice guy", not wanting to appear to run up the score on opposing coaches, and wanting to micromanage the offense to a point that they become ineffective when playing with a second half lead. 

Idk about that. He certainly had no problem doing it to John Harbaugh in the game he let Burrow keep throwing it to drop 500 on them.

(10-21-2024, 05:37 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: There are many posts where people show no love for Volson. I don't think any player or coach is 100% safe from criticism on this board. Not even The Almighty Joey B.

Truth, I have backed Volson at times, but not when he is playing terrible just like any player.

(10-21-2024, 06:20 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: We must hold the accountable, even though Zac doesn't. I'm pretty disappointed with Zac right now. His play calling has been bad. 

Yes, he needs to get this thing fixed no question.

(10-21-2024, 06:37 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Many posters here are Volson fans. Many. And they always say stuff like

“Volson is headed in the right direction” after he has a good game. But Volson inevitably falls back into bad/mediocre, and these people just stay silent on the matter, or they just lie to themselves and say “he was good, idk what the advanced metrics are looking at”

It’s all the time, man

We are Bengals fans, not Volson fans. We just were hoping it would turn the corner for him and it evidently hasn't.

We are going to have to put Guard in our plans early in the draft along with DL it is looking like.

(10-21-2024, 06:38 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I agree with Burrow, they hang 30 some points on teams back-to-back and lose, score 20 some points a game in the last 2 weeks and win, what do you want? I'd like to go and throw 48 on the scoreboard every week, but this is the NFL, everyone gets paid to do their job.

True, just win baby is all I can say. Happy the Defense is getting decent, we will see how decent against the Smeagols and that 
running game with Saquon Barkley. The Offense has shown it can be very good so things seem to be coming together.

(10-21-2024, 06:44 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: same coach that has taken the team to the superbowl, afc championship and conference championship 2 outta the last three years?  and who knows what would have happened last year if burrow stayed healthy

Zac has a damn good resume' that is for sure as Bengals HC. But sometimes the play calling is pretty bad and very predictable.

(10-21-2024, 06:58 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Idk about that. He certainly had no problem doing it to John Harbaugh in the game he let Burrow keep throwing it to drop 500 on them.

Good on him, screw those bastids lol

(10-21-2024, 06:42 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: we were ahead,,defense was playing lights out..we were facing one of the top passing defnses in the league..many good coaches would have done the same..run run

(10-21-2024, 06:47 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: 2 score lead..opposing starting quarterback knocked out of the game...our defense playing lights out..facing one of the best passing defenses in the league.....we won the game dude

Did you feel the need to repeat yourself within 1 minute? 

Please show me your source on the Browns having the top passing defense in the league?  They give up more yards per attempt than we do.  They have a worse passer rating than we do.  They have ONE interception on the year.   They have good players, but we could not run against them and with over 6 minutes in the game that is too early for me.

And I will ask you once again, which one of Mike Brown's granddaughters are you?

(10-21-2024, 02:35 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Again, the original post clearly stated "over 6 minutes", stop moving the goal posts to "under 4 minutes".  

I wasn’t moving the goal posts. I didn’t realize we were talking about us having the ball with 8:34 on our own 3. Yep we ran 3 straight times and 3rd and 7 from our 16 with the way our punter has punted decided not to risk an interception. The clock ran another minute and now it’s 5:40 left. They proceeded to throw an interception leaving 4:04 and forcing them to call all their 3 timeouts with 3 straight runs. . McPherson misses the FG making it 3  scores. He misses but they still have to score twice plus a 2 point conversion. No I’m good here.

(10-21-2024, 11:54 AM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Agreed, Sam Wyche never had a problem stepping on a throat, remember the glorious 61-7 beatdown?. Zac's playcalling & being in the gun the vast majority of the time is infuriating. I'd rather Joe called the plays it could'nt be any worse right?

The problem with glorious beatdowns, is we have to face them again this season. Why give them motivation for revenge?

(10-21-2024, 06:37 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Many posters here are Volson fans. Many. And they always say stuff like

“Volson is headed in the right direction” after he has a good game. But Volson inevitably falls back into bad/mediocre, and these people just stay silent on the matter, or they just lie to themselves and say “he was good, idk what the advanced metrics are looking at”

It’s all the time, man

So exactly what good does constant b******* about the man do? It's not going to change anything. 

(10-21-2024, 06:42 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: we were ahead,,defense was playing lights out..we were facing one of the top passing defnses in the league..many good coaches would have done the same..run run

Run was the right call. People just don't want to admit it and take the win.

(10-21-2024, 06:44 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: same coach that has taken the team to the superbowl, afc championship and conference championship 2 outta the last three years?  and who knows what would have happened last year if burrow stayed healthy

And two AFCN titles....

(10-21-2024, 08:53 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Did you feel the need to repeat yourself within 1 minute? 

Please show me your source on the Browns having the top passing defense in the league?  They give up more yards per attempt than we do.  They have a worse passer rating than we do.  They have ONE interception on the year.   They have good players, but we could not run against them and with over 6 minutes in the game that is too early for me.

And I will ask you once again, which one of Mike Brown's granddaughters are you?

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[color=rgb(var(--ig-primary-text))]Joe Burrow on the #Browns defense: “That’s the best defense we’ve played…”[/color][/color]

(10-22-2024, 08:13 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And two AFCN titles....

You've made posts before where you put a loss on the players and not the head coach. Perhaps the AFCN titles, the AFC championship, and successes are because of talented players like Burrow more so than the head coach.

Of course, it isn't that simple as it takes an entire organization to experience both success and failure.

Zac is still 8 games under .500 as a coach so I hope he continues to improve and demonstrate he can adapt instead of sticking to a fixed way of coaching a game.

(10-22-2024, 08:17 AM)Sled21 Wrote: [color=rgb(var(--ig-primary-text))]bengalstalk
[color=rgb(var(--ig-primary-text))]Joe Burrow on the #Browns defense: “That’s the best defense we’ve played…”[/color][/color]

Not sure how Burrow's quote has any relevance to me wanting to get a first down or 2 with a lot of time still on the clock?  Additional first downs burn way more clock than 3 dives up the gut for a total of 2 yards.

The crazy thing is that Im not a Zac basher, I gave him the benefit of the doubt in the Ravens game, even though counting on a 50 yard FG as automatic is not the greatest idea.  Some of you cannot handle the slightest bit of criticism towards a football coach?

(10-21-2024, 06:54 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: same zac taylor that has taken the team to the superbowl, AFC championship and conference championships two out of the last three years.althought

(10-22-2024, 08:13 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And two AFCN titles....

Yeah, ONLY Zac Taylor could have done this, no doubt.  Im sure McVay, O'Connell, McDaniel and others would have flopped having Burrow and Chase and Higgins...  

(10-22-2024, 10:54 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Yeah, ONLY Zac Taylor could have done this, no doubt.  Im sure McVay, O'Connell, McDaniel and others would have flopped having Burrow and Chase...  

add LaFleur as "others" as I like his coaching. Dude is 61-29 in 6 years. Love might be the QB to eventually get their organization another Super Bowl victory.

(10-22-2024, 10:54 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Yeah, ONLY Zac Taylor could have done this, no doubt.  Im sure McVay, O'Connell, McDaniel and others would have flopped having Burrow and Chase...  

I think we already have a Lombardi with the combination of say Burrow and Dan Campbell.

(10-22-2024, 11:01 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I think we already have a Lombardi with the combination of say Burrow and Dan Campbell.

Plus the dude drafting for the Lions.

(10-22-2024, 11:06 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Plus the dude drafting for the Lions.

That certainly helps. But they lose their best defensive player in Hutchinson and still go out and beat one of the hottest teams in the league. Gotta give Campbell a lot of credit.

(10-22-2024, 11:11 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That certainly helps. But they lose their best defensive player in Hutchinson and still go out and beat one of the hottest teams in the league. Gotta give Campbell a lot of credit.

After the loss in the NFCCG last season, Lions fans were out in full force with their pitchforks after Campbell...

(10-22-2024, 11:21 AM)sandwedge Wrote: After the loss in the NFCCG last season, Lions fans were out in full force with their pitchforks after Campbell...

For losing by 3 points to a stacked 9ers team?

He seems pretty beloved from what I can tell.