(10-22-2024, 12:04 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Also out for the season. Got hurt in the joint practice with the Bears.

Damn, Trae Waynes thinks that dude gets hurt too much

(10-21-2024, 03:47 PM)pally Wrote: Geno Stone says it is his shin.  It hurts…a lot but that he has played through worse the aircast was placed on the leg because when it happened he wouldn’t let the trainers touch it due to the pain

His availability will come down to pain management

Having met a few of these in dark parking lots, I understand him completely.....

(10-22-2024, 08:05 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Having met a few of these in dark parking lots, I understand him completely.....

A source of the utmost pain a human can experience...

(10-22-2024, 12:33 AM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Thanks for the info on Kirkland.  Im not sure how I missed that news.

It was overshadowed by the Dax Hill injury in the same game

(10-21-2024, 03:56 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Never recovered from?

From '12-'15, he had a top 3 OL in the league.

Top 3? Left tackle maybe. But look where Andy took us nowhere fast. Remember he had one of the quickest releases in the pass game because he had to. How many times did he ever get to his 2nd read? His happy feet & O-line would'nt allow it. We had good run blocking those years.

(10-22-2024, 11:31 AM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Top 3? Left tackle maybe. But look where Andy took us nowhere fast. Remember he had one of the quickest releases in the pass game because he had to. How many times did he ever get to his 2nd read? His happy feet & O-line would'nt allow it. We had good run blocking those years.

Andy was always a first read QB. Still is.

QB’s who throw on their first read the most.
(Per @PFF)

1. Daniel Jones: 88.0%
2. Trevor Lawrence: 87.9%
3. Andy Dalton: 80.1%
4. Will Levis: 79.8%
5. Jayden Daniels: 77.2% pic.twitter.com/6GSu8xdDWT

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(10-22-2024, 11:33 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Andy was always a first read QB. Still is.

QB’s who throw on their first read the most.
(Per @PFF)

1. Daniel Jones: 88.0%
2. Trevor Lawrence: 87.9%
3. Andy Dalton: 80.1%
4. Will Levis: 79.8%
5. Jayden Daniels: 77.2% pic.twitter.com/6GSu8xdDWT

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I'd like to see his entire career stat for 1st read.

(10-22-2024, 11:35 AM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: I'd like to see his entire career stat for 1st read.

Probably not much different that what it currently is. For many years he got used to locking in on AJ Green and the rest of the field was virtually invisible to him.

(10-22-2024, 08:05 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Having met a few of these in dark parking lots, I understand him completely.....

Bill Dance had a good encounter with one of those.

(10-21-2024, 07:50 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: At least Carman shown he could play LT here, guess I would be fine with it. Just don't know if he has it in him.

Doesn't have the strive to be great. But he might be better than Ford for all we know.

It's pretty hard to be worse than Cody Ford in pass protection, to be fair.
Carman, even if not someone who has the drive to be great, still might be better in this area comparatively.

There are dudes available that are probably better from a talent perspective, but the one thing Carman would have over them is already knowing the system such that he could step in Sunday if needed. The other dudes may take a couple weeks to get acclimated.
Regardless, I think there has to be a move made.
You can't trust Ford on the left side, same with Stueber.

(10-22-2024, 11:33 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Andy was always a first read QB. Still is.

QB’s who throw on their first read the most.
(Per @PFF)

1. Daniel Jones: 88.0%
2. Trevor Lawrence: 87.9%
3. Andy Dalton: 80.1%
4. Will Levis: 79.8%
5. Jayden Daniels: 77.2% pic.twitter.com/6GSu8xdDWT

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Doesn't really surprise me. Andy was pretty dang good at reading the defense before the snap. So, yes, he would read the defense, decide where the ball is most likely going all before the snap. Couple that with having AJ Green at WR1 and it's not really surprising Dalton would throw to his first read most of the time. 

(10-20-2024, 09:27 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Ford played a total of 1 snap on offense and 3 on special teams last week.  

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FordCo00/gamelog/2024/

I don't know what you were on with that link, or how you failed to notice Brown getting hurt last game and Ford coning in, but I'd stop smoking it if I were you. 

Ford played 37 snaps on offense last week. 4 on ST.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202410200cle.htm#all_vis_snap_counts

(10-22-2024, 07:57 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I don't know what you were on with that link, or how you failed to notice Brown getting hurt last game and Ford coning in, but I'd stop smoking it if I were you. 

Ford played 37 snaps on offense last week. 4 on ST.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202410200cle.htm#all_vis_snap_counts

Yes Ford played 37 snaps on the 20th against the Browns. You might want to check the date of Sled's post and the date of my reply, the one you quoted above.  :)

(10-22-2024, 05:49 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Doesn't really surprise me. Andy was pretty dang good at reading the defense before the snap. So, yes, he would read the defense, decide where the ball is most likely going all before the snap. Couple that with having AJ Green at WR1 and it's not really surprising Dalton would throw to his first read most of the time. 

Speaking of Andy he was in a car accident today with the whole family. Sounds like everyone is ok thankfully.

(10-22-2024, 05:41 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's pretty hard to be worse than Cody Ford in pass protection, to be fair.
Carman, even if not someone who has the drive to be great, still might be better in this area comparatively.

There are dudes available that are probably better from a talent perspective, but the one thing Carman would have over them is already knowing the system such that he could step in Sunday if needed. The other dudes may take a couple weeks to get acclimated.
Regardless, I think there has to be a move made.
You can't trust Ford on the left side, same with Stueber.

All true, we brought in Andrew Coker who I like but he is not an immediate answer either as he will have to learn the system.

Cochran will probably be the OT brought up from the PS but either way we will be in a tough spot Sunday at LT if Orlando cannot go.

(10-22-2024, 10:32 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Speaking of Andy he was in a car accident today with the whole family. Sounds like everyone is ok thankfully.

Happy everyone is alright. Great people.

Orlando Brown, listed as day to day, is in uniform for practice.  I still expect him to be limited.  Geno Stone participated in this morning’s walk through

edit: Stone did not come out with the team.  Brown only stretched and did not participate in open practice

(10-22-2024, 10:32 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Speaking of Andy he was in a car accident today with the whole family. Sounds like everyone is ok thankfully.

Andy sprained the thumb on his throwing hand.  Byrce Young will start in his place

(10-23-2024, 04:45 PM)pally Wrote: Andy sprained the thumb on his throwing hand.  Byrce Young will start in his place

Bryce better have a good game or he may be out of the league.