(10-29-2024, 01:43 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Still not sure how us almost beating them takes away from Karlaftis being a good player. Mahomes, McDuffie, Jones, etc, all would have taken the L as well.

I’d personally love to have a guy other than Trey put up double digit sacks for our fans to “not be sold o

 CJ creates more. besides spagnuolo being able to scheme. i remember last year they were terrible until he signed. then all a sudden. there they go again.

(10-29-2024, 01:51 AM)WildCat Wrote:  CJ creates more. besides spagnuolo being able to scheme. i remember last year they were terrible until he signed. then all a sudden. there they go again.

Jones absolutely makes everyone on that d-line better. Don’t know why nicomo is acting baffled

(10-29-2024, 01:49 AM)WildCat Wrote: it doesn't take away from karlaftis. he's just not that good.  what the chiefs are able to do is create due to their DL.

If you say so.

Most pressures this season:

Nick Bosa 44
Dexter Lawrence 44
Maxx Crosby 43
Micah Parsons 43
Aidan Hutchinson 42
Josh Sweat 40
Josh Allen 39
George Karlaftis 39

— Steve Palazzolo (@StevePalazzolo_) October 30, 2023

Not bad company at the halfway mark of his 2nd season for a dude that’s not that good.

George Karlaftis led the Chiefs in QB pressures (19) and sacks (4) in the playoffs ? pic.twitter.com/gpBhMx6quD

— PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) February 13, 2024

George Karlaftis is a rising talent ? pic.twitter.com/yr3QhzpLgk

— PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) February 23, 2024

(10-29-2024, 02:14 AM)Frank Booth Wrote: Jones absolutely makes everyone on that d-line better. Don’t know why nicomo is acting baffled

Of course he does. He’s a future hall of famer. That doesn’t mean other players aren’t good in their own right though. Was Dunlap not good because he played with Geno?

(10-29-2024, 01:51 AM)WildCat Wrote:  CJ creates more. besides spagnuolo being able to scheme. i remember last year they were terrible until he signed. then all a sudden. there they go again.

Jones missed 1 game last year, and they lost 21-20 to a very good Lions team lol

(10-29-2024, 12:26 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Dax was starting to play well before he got hurt. Still can’t tackle for shit, but the pick was at least looking salvageable.

Still stings that KC got Karlaftis the pick right before us though. Those are the kind of impact players we’ve desperately been missing.

What? WE had one: J Bates and look what happened..gone to Falcons and they are now 5-3..

(10-29-2024, 05:46 AM)Old Dipstick Wrote: What? WE had one: J Bates and look what happened..gone to Falcons and they are now 5-3..

Now there’s a topic that hasn’t got much play here.

I'd like to see if Chase Young has any Ohio magic left.

Myles Murphy is a bum.

I’m sooo glad some of you finally caught on.

(10-29-2024, 05:46 AM)Old Dipstick Wrote: What? WE had one: J Bates and look what happened..gone to Falcons and they are now 5-3..

Bates would have amazing games here. But most of the time he had average games.

Maybe it was coaching/scheme with him too?

(10-29-2024, 03:01 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Bates would have amazing games here. But most of the time he had average games.

Maybe it was coaching/scheme with him too?

in the playoffs he became great.

I believe, and it was pretty much confirmed, that Bates wasnt playing his hardest due to not getting a new contract.

well now he has his money, and he plays like playoff Bates down in atlanta

(10-29-2024, 02:18 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: If you say so.

Most pressures this season:

Nick Bosa 44
Dexter Lawrence 44
Maxx Crosby 43
Micah Parsons 43
Aidan Hutchinson 42
Josh Sweat 40
Josh Allen 39
George Karlaftis 39

— Steve Palazzolo (@StevePalazzolo_) October 30, 2023

Not bad company at the halfway mark of his 2nd season for a dude that’s not that good.

George Karlaftis led the Chiefs in QB pressures (19) and sacks (4) in the playoffs ? pic.twitter.com/gpBhMx6quD

— PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) February 13, 2024

George Karlaftis is a rising talent ? pic.twitter.com/yr3QhzpLgk

— PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) February 23, 2024

I don't like using Chief's players as any kind of measuring stick simply because they get to play by different rules than the rest of the league not named TJ TWatt.

(10-29-2024, 04:46 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I don't like using Chief's players as any kind of measuring stick simply because they get to play by different rules than the rest of the league not named TJ TWatt.

this is also kind of true. Look how bad Sneed is now that he isnt with KC

(10-29-2024, 04:46 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I don't like using Chief's players as any kind of measuring stick simply because they get to play by different rules than the rest of the league not named TJ TWatt.

Where's your boy Myples at man? 

(10-29-2024, 12:34 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Moving from Safety to CB is an upgrade. Moving from Tackle to Guard is not. 

He was moved to CB because he was the best cover man on the team

Stop it.
He was moved because he bombed out at Safety.

The Bengals didn't sign Bell & Stone as FAs because they some master Dax Hill plan to get him to CB. They said all along that he had to compete and were hopeful it worked out. Alllll of the reporters said Hill was in a dogfight at the position. The Bengals have no good CBs at this point. To say Dax was the best of them is honestly just wild and, even if true, isn't the flowers it sounds like.

This revisionist history is real on Dax Hill.

(10-29-2024, 04:48 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: this is also kind of true. Look how bad Sneed is now that he isnt with KC

Tyreek had his 2 best seasons after he left KC.

(10-29-2024, 09:55 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Stop it.
He was moved because he bombed out at Safety.

The Bengals didn't sign Bell & Stone as FAs because they some master Dax Hill plan to get him to CB. They said all along that he had to compete and were hopeful it worked out. Alllll of the reporters said Hill was in a dogfight at the position. The Bengals have no good CBs at this point. To say Dax was the best of them is honestly just wild and, even if true, isn't the flowers it sounds like.

This revisionist history is real on Dax Hill.

Do folks ever look at what they write and see how silly it is?

"He bombed out at Safety so they made him a starting CB"

You cannot make this stuff up. 

Interior DL picks Jenkins & Jackson aren’t moving mountains either. Certainly too early to make a judgment, but not impressed att.

(10-29-2024, 07:03 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Now there’s a topic that hasn’t got much play here.

You--->missed point..

What good does it do hitting the "next big thing" thing in the lottery when the Browns wont pay them what they are worth? They leave and make other teams better. Bates is just one example of many..

We’re gonna look back in 10 years and wonder why we wasted Burrows prime..

(10-30-2024, 08:26 PM)Old Dipstick Wrote: You--->missed point..

What good does it do hitting the "next big thing" thing in the lottery when the Browns wont pay them what they are worth? They leave and make other teams better. Bates is just one example of many..

We’re gonna look back in 10 years and wonder why we wasted Burrows prime..

Nah, I got the point. It’s just been well covered that it’s looking like a huge mistake not paying Bates.

And yes, wasting Burrow’s prime is the #1 fear. QB’s like him don’t fall in your lap that often.