(11-08-2024, 12:53 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: Maybe analytics master Zac should look at these analytics. He has zero feel for the game. 

you are absolutely spot on..time and time again he calls bonehead plays and absolutely ruins the momentum..This is a very big part of this teams failure

(11-08-2024, 03:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: In the end this is all moot. Both Burrow and Chase aren't going anywhere and things will get brighter again and if we make the right 
moves these guys will win a Superbowl or a few before it is over. Perfect 2 players to build your team around.

Literally every level of the defense is bad. I don't see a quick fix. The players they drafted on defense just aren't good.

(11-08-2024, 02:47 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Got a link to the video?

At about 11:15 into the video.....

(11-08-2024, 02:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He’s had it. He basically said everyone other than him, Ja’Marr, and Trey are not pulling their weight. And he’s right.

I dont know who it was that ran down the sidelines  for a touchdown but 3 Bengals players had the aooprtunity to tackle him or push him out of bounds and they missed..pathetic

(11-08-2024, 02:23 PM)Big Boss Wrote: Burrow's comments after the game were sobering.  I don't think I've ever heard him speak so bluntly or single out his own performance to criticize others.  Maybe I'm being overly reactive, but I listened to what he and Ja'Marr said and all I heard were alarm bells.  The two best players on the team are openly angry about the state of things and they're running out of creative ways to dance around speaking their truths.

The front office had better wake the **** up.

They won't wake up. 10 years ago people were studying AJ Green's body language on the sidelines. "He wants out. You can tell.". It happens over and over.

(11-08-2024, 02:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: Or at least fire the one(s) that have failed and replace them.

They're all family members, they're going nowhere.

(11-08-2024, 04:35 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: They're all family members, they're going nowhere.

They need more scouts.  It's 2024 and literally every other NFL franchise is on the train at this point.  You have probably the best QB you're ever going to have.  It's inexcusable.  

(11-08-2024, 04:26 PM)Sled21 Wrote: At about 11:15 into the video.....

Thanks, and oof. They seem a little broken there. Burrow clearly taking his time to police his words and make sure he's not letting too much out of what he's clearly thinking.

I think I'm ready for Burrow to start publicly cutting throats. He's been tactful and patient long enough.

The issues on defense start with having the two most unathletic safeties in the league. I told yall Stone was awful and a product of the Ravens D and robbed us.
To compound that, we have ZERO interior pass rush. You cannot be a good defense without guys who can get to the qb form up the middle. The best defenses have guys like c Jones, Donald, Q Williams, etc.

And then, having an offense that cant run the ball doesnt help. I mean we threw like 80% of the time....cant win like that.

In summation, as a coach, when you are bad everywhere, try to mask that with some ball control, dont shine a light on it by making it obvious we are throwing, that makes the line even worse.

(11-08-2024, 04:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Literally every level of the defense is bad. I don't see a quick fix. The players they drafted on defense just aren't good.

Trey is maybe the best pass rushing End in the NFL right now and we can extend him when it is time. BJ Hill is still a very solid player, 
Murphy is still really young and talented, Ossai is finally showing something, Logan Wilson, Pratt and ADG have shown some very good 
things this season, Battle is young and talented, same with CTB and DJ Turner.

Our rookies in Kris Jenkins and McKinnley Jackson have shown good things. It is not as dire as you say, but we need a new DC and to 
move on from Hubbard, Geno Stone and maybe even Vonn Bell who doesn't look the same.

(11-08-2024, 12:31 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

There have been 2 instances in NFL history where a QB had:

30+ completions
300+ passing yards
4+ TD passes
multiple 40+ yard TD passes
no more than 1 INT

...and yet still lost. Those 2 instances were Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens in Week 5 & Joe Burrow vs. the Ravens again tonight. pic.twitter.com/vfRaLghMC9

— OptaSTATS (@OptaSTATS) November 8, 2024

They are failing their franchise QB on historical levels this season.

Yeah. Someone's head needs to roll. Not gonna name any names, right Lou?

(11-08-2024, 05:06 PM)CottonHill Wrote: The issues on defense start with having the two most unathletic safeties in the league. I told yall Stone was awful and a product of the Ravens D and robbed us.
To compound that, we have ZERO interior pass rush. You cannot be a good defense without guys who can get to the qb form up the middle. The best defenses have guys like c Jones, Donald, Q Williams, etc.

And then, having an offense that cant run the ball doesnt help. I mean we threw like 80% of the time....cant win like that.

In summation, as a coach, when you are bad everywhere, try to mask that with some ball control, dont shine a light on it by making it obvious we are throwing, that makes the line even worse.

If only we had someone like Jessie Bates..............oh wait.

And yup, I already posted that in another thread.

The brown Family is a curse and completely inept and they will be here long after I die.  I doubt I will ever see the Bengals in a SB again.  This season SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frick I hope they win out, sneak into the playoffs and win the SB so I can eat huge crow for every negative post I have made.  Even if they do, this season is the opposite of fun so far.

Don't be frustrated Joey B, you are part of the Brown Family Bengals.  Pain and agony and losing in new and creative ways is what they do best.  It's what is expected.  It's the Bengals place in the NFL.  Some people tried to warn you to not come here, you should have listened.

(11-08-2024, 05:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yeah. Someone's head needs to roll. Not gonna name any names, right Lou?

Or the FO for not keeping Bates.

(11-08-2024, 05:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Yeah. Someone's head needs to roll. Not gonna name any names, right Lou?

He can take Tobin with him......and his four scouts and their dry erase boards 

The Ravens defense recorded 40 pressures vs the Bengals last night

Tied for the most in a game this season ? pic.twitter.com/agegycgIH3

— PFF (@PFF) November 8, 2024

And he still put up 430 yards and 4 TD’s. Absurd.

40 pressures is not due to a porous OL alone. We operate almost exclusively from a gun and we use a lot of personnel packages with no blocking TE or help in the backfield. But make no mistake - the OL was horrendous.

No matter how much draft capital or money we spend, the OL with this staff is always going to be a vulnerability.