(Yesterday, 06:08 PM)J24 Wrote: They were 18th in points in 2021 and 7th in Points in 2022. Part of Lous strategy is give up yards not points.

That is more luck than anything else. If teams are racking up yards, they are more likely to score points. There is likely a correlation to yards = points. The bengals might be the outlier… but same for 2005. If not for Tory James and deltha oneal, that bengals team isn’t winning 11 games.

(Yesterday, 06:31 PM)J24 Wrote: 29th!

It’s actually 26. Not good, still.

(Yesterday, 07:52 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: That is more luck than anything else.  If teams are racking up yards, they are more likely to score points.  There is likely a correlation to yards = points.  The bengals might be the outlier… but same for 2005.  If not for Tory James and deltha oneal, that bengals team isn’t winning 11 games.

That is true for sure. Would like to have a lot less yards on top of the points, with more stops and turnovers like the elite Defenses do.

But even mediocre would be nice at this point.

(Yesterday, 07:56 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: It’s actually 26.  Not good, still.

Thanks, nope, not good. 

(Yesterday, 07:52 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: That is more luck than anything else.  If teams are racking up yards, they are more likely to score points.  There is likely a correlation to yards = points.  The bengals might be the outlier… but same for 2005.  If not for Tory James and deltha oneal, that bengals team isn’t winning 11 games.

We were really good in redzone defense and forced Turnovers(to your point) in 2022. 

(Yesterday, 06:17 PM)samhain Wrote: The 21 and 22 defenses had a knack for making huge plays at critical times.  This team has no such magic.

Like I said earlier, when the field got smaller, they got a lot tougher to score on.

(Yesterday, 04:16 PM)J24 Wrote: disagree on Reader; his presence alone would help free up Hill and Hendrickson more often.

absolutely true, Reader was solid and part of the line success. BTW Detroit still has Ragnoroc, who was projected to be the bengal's center...snatched outta of our hands by 1.

(Yesterday, 10:23 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: absolutely true, Reader was solid and part of the line success. BTW Detroit still has Ragnoroc, who was projected to be the bengal's center...snatched outta of our hands by 1.

Pretty sure that’s the Vikings.

(Yesterday, 10:22 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Like I said earlier, when the field got smaller, they got a lot tougher to score on.

this is the case for, literally, every nfl team. It’s always easier when you have more yards to work with.

(Yesterday, 10:23 PM)Bengalitis Wrote: absolutely true, Reader was solid and part of the line success. BTW Detroit still has Ragnoroc, who was projected to be the bengal's center...snatched outta of our hands by 1.

We gave up the same rushing yards on a per game basis in 23 as we are in 24.

(Yesterday, 11:13 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: We gave up the same rushing yards on a per game basis in 23 as we are in 24.

Were actually better in yards per attempt with 4.2 this season vs 4.7 last year. Our biggest struggle last season happened when Reader was off the field.

(Today, 12:23 AM)J24 Wrote: Were actually better in yards per attempt with 4.2 this season vs 4.7 last year. Our biggest struggle last season happened when Reader was off the field.

Was 4.2 in 2022 and 4.3 in 2021.. yards per attempt.

I’m really not trying to throw shade at reader, or give praise to rankins. It is really about the same as it has always been, except the bengals have not won some of the close games. If we win 2 of the close games and we are sitting at 6-4, we are not sitting here talking about a lot of this stuff.
Regular season bengals have always been on the arm of burrow, defense has been a liability for the duration of Zac/lou tenure, especially in the regular season.

Bates to Hill to Scott to Stone.

Reader to Rankins.

Mixon to Moss.

Awuzie to CTB.

Bell to Scott to older Bell.

Boyd to Iosivas.

Now, there have been some upgrades. But most of those have been negated by injuries. OT, with OBJ + Trent Brown + Mims is better. But 2 guys are hurt. Ditto TE, where Gesicki + All was an upgrade, but the magnitude of it dropped with All hurt. Hill's move to CB was looking like a beight spot until he went down. An Apple upgrade for sure. And healthy Higgins to hurt Higgins is hurting us as well.