(12-04-2024, 01:58 PM)jj22 Wrote: Disappointing reviews on Zac

I mean cant get much more disappointing than his coaching can it?

Watched it yesterday.

Surely Tomlin is the more competent coach, but trying to look into <10 minutes of screentime for Zac and drawing sweeping conclusions about his standing as a coach is silly.

Love me some Hard Knocks. Always well produced. Shame it comes during our season's death knell.

(12-04-2024, 03:23 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: My friend that's a Steelers fan texted me and said that the difference between Tomlin and Taylor is night and day.

Not sure if racial joke

(12-05-2024, 01:22 PM)J24 Wrote: Tomlin has what 13 or 14 more years experience on Taylor; so yeah of course he's going to come off as a better coach.

Dan Campbell has been a HC for even less time than Zac and he comes off infinitely better. Some guys just have that “it” factor.

(12-05-2024, 01:22 PM)J24 Wrote: Tomlin has what 13 or 14 more years experience on Taylor; so yeah of course he's going to come off as a better coach.

How were Tomlins first few years? Tomlin is better in all ways, except for probably ethics, but they remove those from you once you arrive in Pittsburgh.

(12-05-2024, 10:55 PM)Destro Wrote: How were Tomlins first few years? Tomlin is better in all ways, except for probably ethics, but they remove those from you once you arrive in Pittsburgh.

Who has more playoff wins since 2019?

(12-05-2024, 08:30 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Dan Campbell has been a HC for even less time than Zac and he comes off infinitely better. Some guys just have that “it” factor.

He also has the two best Coordinator's in the NFL and more importantly an elite GM.

(12-05-2024, 11:14 PM)J24 Wrote: Who has more playoff wins since 2019?

Can hand pick any stats. Who actually has a title? Who has the most losing seasons? Wins in the past two years? One year? 

People actually try stack Taylor with Tomlin? I am funk the Steelers all day long, but that's just silly. 

Those carrying the tea for Taylor are getting pretty thin. Even the main fanboys have been church mice. Got the practice squad out

(12-05-2024, 11:31 PM)Destro Wrote: Can hand pick any stats. Who actually has a title? Who has the most losing seasons? Wins in the past two years? One year? 

People actually try stack Taylor with Tomlin? I am funk the Steelers all day long, but that's just silly. 

Those carrying the tea for Taylor are getting pretty thin. Even the main fanboys have been church mice. Got the practice squad out

Tomlin took Cowher Team to a superbowl and blew another one. He hasn’t won anything significant with his own team. He's a glorified Marvin Lewis.

(12-05-2024, 11:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Yeah, I’m sure Tomlin couldn’t win in the playoffs with Joe Burrow.

Dude had the corpse of Ben Roethlisberger and Mason Rudolph for his last couple playoff appearances.

And Zac nearly took Jake Browning too a playoff berth. What's your point?

Zach's a good coach who has the worst FO and Ownership in the league(maybe in all of sports). The fact, that he made a superbowl(with this franchise) speaks to his coaching ability. 

Oh boy.

(12-05-2024, 11:38 PM)J24 Wrote: And Zac nearly took Jake Browning too a playoff berth. What's your point?

Zach's a good coach who has the worst FO and Ownership in the league(maybe in all of sports). The fact, that he made a superbowl(with this franchise) speaks to his coaching ability. 

Yeah, he’s great. 41-52-1 (.441) and 2 playoff appearances in 6 years.

(12-05-2024, 11:31 PM)Destro Wrote: Can hand pick any stats. Who actually has a title? Who has the most losing seasons? Wins in the past two years? One year? 

People actually try stack Taylor with Tomlin? I am funk the Steelers all day long, but that's just silly. 

Those carrying the tea for Taylor are getting pretty thin. Even the main fanboys have been church mice. Got the practice squad out

Funny how the board evolves, Now winning playoff games is hand-picking stats.

I get some are always going to want more and you've been "fire Zac" after his 2nd game in charge , but since Zac has come into the league he's lead his team to bigger heights than Tomlin.

Zac "tea-carriers" have gone quiet, because it's just tiring. Some want Zac fired every time we lose a game

(12-06-2024, 01:24 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Funny how the board evolves, Now winning playoff games is hand-picking stats.

I get some are always going to want more and you've been "fire Zac" after his 2nd game in charge , but since Zac has come into the league he's lead his team to bigger heights than Tomlin.

Zac "tea-carriers" have gone quiet, because it's just tiring. Some want Zac fired every time we lose a game

Some call for him to be fired, but I haven't been one of them, though I wouldn't think it would be the end of the world should it happen. Tomlin has consistently made winning teams, regardless of who was playing. Because Chase and Burrow were able to get near the top does not make Taylor any better than Tomlin. Swap Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett or Mitchell Tribisky into a Zac Taylor team and wonder how many wins he would pull out. Strange how some fans of the Bengals cheer on a coach more than players. 

(12-04-2024, 11:29 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Watched it.

I didn't watch it yet, I wonder if any other owner other than MB would watch it and fire him immediately.

(12-06-2024, 05:10 PM)Destro Wrote: Some call for him to be fired, but I haven't been one of them, though I wouldn't think it would be the end of the world should it happen. Tomlin has consistently made winning teams, regardless of who was playing. Because Chase and Burrow were able to get near the top does not make Taylor any better than Tomlin. Swap Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett or Mitchell Tribisky into a Zac Taylor team and wonder how many wins he would pull out. Strange how some fans of the Bengals cheer on a coach more than players. 

It's impossible to debate against opinion; as facts are not required.

"Zac's only successful because of Ja'Marr and Joe". 

What we do know is his first couple years (one w/ Burrow) were crappy as he rebuilt the team, he did not take over a successful team; as did Tomlin. Tomlin took over a team that had won the Superbowl just 2 years prior, but has only won 3 playoff games in the last 14 years.

 You can assert many fans currently bytching around here would be much happier with that than our current success, but I'd go out on a limb and suggest they'd still be bytching.

IDK about those who cheer the coach more than the players; as I cheer for both to do well. 

(12-07-2024, 04:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's impossible to debate against opinion; as facts are not required.

"Zac's only successful because of Ja'Marr and Joe". 

What we do know is his first couple years (one w/ Burrow) were crappy as he rebuilt the team, he did not take over a successful team; as did Tomlin. Tomlin took over a team that had won the Superbowl just 2 years prior, but has only won 3 playoff games in the last 14 years.

 You can assert many fans currently bytching around here would be much happier with that than our current success, but I'd go out on a limb and suggest they'd still be bytching.

IDK about those who cheer the coach more than the players; as I cheer for both to do well. 

The Taylor haters will continue to hate him and call for him to be fired regardless of what he does. The Bengals hired Taylor because they went with the trend to hire an offensive minded Head Coach, so if the OC is swooped up by another team, as was Callahan, they don't have to start from scratch with the offense. This year's record is not good, but there is no denying the offense is and has been clicking, and though play calling seems to bug a lot of people they score enough points that they would already have 8 or 9 wins with even an average defense. Lou's defense has let this team and Taylor down. Now, whether that is on Lou or on the front office for not re-signing players and bringing in dead weight replacements is up for debate. 

Taylor Tag Team, back again.

(12-07-2024, 07:05 PM)Destro Wrote: Taylor Tag Team, back again.

(12-07-2024, 07:05 PM)Destro Wrote: Taylor Tag Team, back again.

Preferred over cupping Tomlin's ballz