What's his w/l record
How many years has he made the playoffs
How many division titles does he have
How many seasons did he play the full season
How many rush yards/td's does he have

Allen is better and there is no shame in that. Has his team ever been 4-8?

3 passing TD's, 3 Rushing TD's no turnovers in a shootout is far different then the fumbled TD's, INT, 3 and outs that we get in the 2nd half and closing minutes of shootouts.

Yall hold the 13 second game against him but if that was Burrow yall would scream that loss  wasn't on him and he was still clutch. 

because josh allen had a better game against the rams than burrow did against the steelers, that makes josh allen a better qb

are we entertaining this person? stop it

(12-08-2024, 01:13 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Jesus what? Why the **** is it so hard to see that the offense is playing great to be in a position to win the game but up to now, they've not been able to finish?
That doesn't mean they're at fault. The defense has been atrocious and Burrow gets pummelled all game long. Does that mean we ignore the fact that the offense rolls all game but then when they need one drive, they've come up short?
A ***** key cog in the offense just said they've not been able to finish but you want to chalk it up to politically correct?
Go ahead and live in your excuse filled world. I'm done with this stupid assed idiotic back and forth.

It is idiotic, we have a historically bad defense keeping the team from winning. You would rather blame the QB instead of the D, head Coach calling terrible plays in clutch time, or bad o-line or kicker sucking this year. If Joe was calling plays on these supposed game winning clutch drives I would blame him. 1st Ravens game as example of coach sh!tting to bed. CONTEXT IS KING & you dont' care about context, just your argument. Blaming Joe IS idiotic.

If I had to definitively rank them then I am picking Burrow. Both Burrow and Allen are great QBs.

(12-09-2024, 12:41 PM)PCB Bengal Fan Wrote: It is idiotic, we have a historically bad defense keeping the team from winning. You would rather blame the QB instead of the D, head Coach calling terrible plays in clutch time, or bad o-line or kicker sucking this year. If Joe was calling plays on these supposed game winning clutch drives I would blame him. 1st Ravens game as example of coach sh!tting to bed. CONTEXT IS KING & you dont' care about context, just your argument. Blaming Joe IS idiotic.

So you're one of those guys that doesn't pay attention when reading posts? I'm not blaming him. I'm saying he hasn't completed a GWD this year. 

Calm down.

(12-09-2024, 03:45 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Bills RBs: 6 carries, 21:30 ToP
Rams RBs: 37 carries, 38:30 ToP

People can bash our running game as much as they want, but I don't think we've ever had THAT kind of disparity in a game like that, ever.

(12-09-2024, 11:59 AM)jj22 Wrote: Allen is a better QB there is no debate.

(12-09-2024, 01:04 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: People can bash our running game as much as they want, but I don't think we've ever had THAT kind of disparity in a game like that, ever.

how many Rushes did Allen have

(12-09-2024, 01:07 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: how many Rushes did Allen have

No clue, but I can guarantee the vast majority were pass plays he scrambled out of.

(12-09-2024, 01:07 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: No clue, but I can guarantee the vast majority were pass plays he scrambled out of.

looks like 10 attempts 82 yards and 3 TDs 

He made my fantasy team very happy lol

Allen is about to win MVP. We can’t keep ignoring all of these accolades to claim Burrow is better than the Mahomes, Allen’s, Lamar’s of the league. Even Dalton had a better winning percentage in his first 5 years. Wins matter and you have to be able to win to make the playoffs and this win a championship. 5 straight years now looks to never be accomplished again.

And I don’t want to hear about 5-2 because if it isn’t good enough to save Zac and Lou the criticism and calls to get fired. It shouldn’t be good enough to save Burrow from criticism.

Especially given the playoff success was due to the defense.

And enough with the teams don’t want to play Burrow. Nearly every team in the league rather good or bad has beaten Burrow. Badly in some cases.

So no one fears playing the Bengals.

(12-09-2024, 01:37 PM)jj22 Wrote: Allen is about to win MVP.

You really shouldn't start drinking so early on a weekday, jj.

Allen is...
20th in Completion %
11th in Passing Yards
10th in YPA
6th in Passing TD
8th in QB Rating

Lamar Jackson is...
13th
7th
2nd
2nd
1st

Josh Allen isn't going to win an MVP. Hell, he might not even sniff 2nd if Sam Darnold keeps playing like he has the last 4 weeks.

If it was as cut and dry as stats then Burrow would be set to win it. So sorry you did all that work but it doesn't change anything.

(12-09-2024, 01:56 PM)jj22 Wrote: If it was as cut and dry as stats then Burrow would be set to win it. So sorry you did all that work but it doesn't change anything.

Except Jackson is also winning and going to the playoffs, and so is Darnold.

"All that work" = Googling NFL stat leaders

If you think looking up just basic stats is all that work, it explains a lot about where you're coming from with your current posts and takes. Lol

Lamar isn’t even winning the division so don’t waste your money on that bet.

(12-09-2024, 01:59 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Except Jackson is also winning and going to the playoffs, and so is Darnold.

"All that work" = Googling NFL stat leaders

If you think looking up just basic stats is all that work, it explains a lot about where you're coming from with your current posts and takes. Lol

At least be transparent and acknowledge you had to click on additional links.

(12-09-2024, 12:02 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Nah, he's bigger and probably a better runner, but I don't think he's 'superior". I have old family in Buffalo. Ask them about JB. They don't want no part of JB,JC, and Tee. 

Those three worry Bills fan! They're thankful that we're pretty much out of it. The last team that they want waltzing into Orchard Park is Cincy and those three dudes! 

I think 'superior" is probably a poor choice of verbiage. 

Spot on Coach. Allen is a damn good QB, but he is not near the passer that Burrow is honestly. Allen made some dime throws yesterday 
against them Rams and he is a much more physical runner when plays break down. But Allen doesn't have Burrow's accuracy.

Or his weapons.

(12-09-2024, 02:57 PM)jj22 Wrote: Or his weapons.

Chase is definitely much better than anything Allen has, but Tee is hurt all the time. Khalil Shakir, Amari Cooper, Curtis Samuel, Dawson 
Knox and the young WR's/TE in Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid are better after Chase IMO....

And Allen has much better RB's. Burrow has by far the worse OL.

(12-09-2024, 02:57 PM)jj22 Wrote: Or his weapons.

Jamarr is better than anything the bills have but Shakir, Cooper, and their tight end are far better than a hobbled missing half the season Higgins and the nobodies behind him