(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)pally Wrote: Saleh is also a potential one and done DC and that builds zero continuity. Do you want them to hire someone who already has one foot out the door?

I still suspect they are waiting for AL Golden's Notre Dame season to be over

We've had one of the worst defenses for two consecutive seasons and it cost us a playoff spot this year. 

I don't give two shits about continuity. I want a god damn Super Bowl. 

All this talk about continuity and not going into cap hell need to stop being virtues. The LA rams had the opposite philosophy we did and they have a Super Bowl to show for it, and they never had to pay the piper like anyone said they would. They drafted well and are a competitive team in a competitive division. 

(Yesterday, 10:40 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: My thoughts are that if you're looking to change defensive schemes, and be successful in that first year (win now), you're going to need at least a few proven veterans who are comfortable and experienced in that alignment. Yes, you'll want to draft to support that scheme, but you still need proven guys to demonstrate how it's supposed to work.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that Saleh runs a 3-4...he has consistently run a 4-3 defense and all it takes is a simple google (or watching any of his games)

(Yesterday, 10:38 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: I love the people on this Board and their passion for our team and football..but playing pretend coach and talking about this scheme or another leaves me in stitches..They need players that can hustle..tackle ,execute..catch a football , etc ..regardless of any scheme or coach..man is it cold outside

It's a good thing no one cares what you think.

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)pally Wrote: Saleh is also a potential one and done DC and that builds zero continuity. Do you want them to hire someone who already has one foot out the door?

I still suspect they are waiting for AL Golden's Notre Dame season to be over

I can't imagine the Bengals will try to buy him out of his ND contract.

(Yesterday, 11:28 AM)ochocincos Wrote: With Hendrickson being on his last year, I dunno if it's worth fully moving to 3-4 for 2025.
Hendrickson is perfect for 4-3 DE.
I think he played as OLB in a 3-4 in his first few years in New Orleans, but he wasn't very productive.

I think keep the 4-3 for at least 2025.
That also would give one final year to see if Murphy is worth a damn.

Trey lined up 400 times as the REO and 392 times as the ROLB. 

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)pally Wrote: Saleh is also a potential one and done DC and that builds zero continuity. Do you want them to hire someone who already has one foot out the door?

I still suspect they are waiting for AL Golden's Notre Dame season to be over

Yep. Don't need someone who is just looking for the next one year stepping stone. 

Any D coordinator on this team if they are who we hope they are has the potential to be one and done. You can't let that scare you away.

(Yesterday, 01:56 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: We've had one of the worst defenses for two consecutive seasons and it cost us a playoff spot this year. 

I don't give two shits about continuity. I want a god damn Super Bowl. 

All this talk about continuity and not going into cap hell need to stop being virtues. The LA rams had the opposite philosophy we did and they have a Super Bowl to show for it, and they never had to pay the piper like anyone said they would. They drafted well and are a competitive team in a competitive division. 

Saleh is interviewing for the Raiders HC job.

He isn't likely to be looking for a DC position until all of his HC options are exhausted.  He likely won't have word on that until after the playoffs and and all the big assistant candidates have had their interviews.  

(Yesterday, 02:07 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Nope, LB coach. He was co-DC at Arizona State in 2020, with Marvin Lewis coincidentally, and then he was full time DC for them in 2021. That's his only DC experience. 

Ah, thanks Bengal Dude. Maybe with Marv's influence Antonio Pierce is a possibility. I liked how his team responded when he became HC.

Still, Eberflus is my favorite of the bunch still for DC at this point.

(Yesterday, 10:18 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Report: Bengals not expected to interview Robert Saleh or Dennis Allen https://t.co/vHOdXcxHso

— Cincy Jungle (@CincyJungle) January 9, 2025

Ofc not. They’d cost too much. This ***** team.

This pisses me off.

(Yesterday, 10:32 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Those guys are independent, free thinkers. The Bengals are looking for a YES man.

My God, how do they think the fans will take another YES man? We need a free thinker at every coaching position so they can properly do 
their job to the best of their ability. This is not what I wanted to hear today. Hope we can hire Eberflus or Christian Parker for DC, but if they
are just yes men I guess it won't matter.

Samhain's thread about Pollack wanting Humphrey over Carman made me sad. If position coaches get overruled by dumbasses like Duke or 
whoever there isn't much hope for drafting players to fit any scheme on either side of the ball.

What about Ron Rivera? He hasn't had any offerrs yet that I'm aware of and iirc, he ran some pretty decent defenses when he was a coordinator.

Might be worth kicking the tires?

If they go young or inexperienced I hope they bring in a vet play caller as senior assistant.

(Yesterday, 01:35 PM)pally Wrote: Saleh is also a potential one and done DC and that builds zero continuity. Do you want them to hire someone who already has one foot out the door?

I still suspect they are waiting for AL Golden's Notre Dame season to be over

That's the risk that some teams take in order to land a DC with a good track record. Jim Schwartz and Steve Spagnuolo are two off the top of my head who reasonably wanted/were qualified for HC jobs. The Eagles and Chiefs rolled the dice and wound up making the right call. I don't see the sense in having a craven attitude about a DC being so successful that they get hired by another team. At least they had to have been good for that to happen, right?

(Yesterday, 10:18 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Report: Bengals not expected to interview Robert Saleh or Dennis Allen https://t.co/vHOdXcxHso

— Cincy Jungle (@CincyJungle) January 9, 2025

Ofc not. They’d cost too much. This ***** team.

You're jumping to conclusions

(6 hours ago)sandwedge Wrote: You're jumping to conclusions

(6 hours ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

So tell us why they have no interested in them other than the old tired narrative, they're cheap? 

(5 hours ago)sandwedge Wrote: So tell us why they have no interested in them other than the old tired narrative, they're cheap? 

Why is the onus on me to come up with alternative explanations? I think that’s exactly the reason.

(6 hours ago)sandwedge Wrote: You're jumping to conclusions

They aren't gonna spend big money on a DC and anybody around here whose been a fan for a while should KNOW this ! Some of you really need to get a grip

(5 hours ago)pulses Wrote: They aren't gonna spend big money on a DC and anybody around here whose been a fan for a while should KNOW this ! Some of you really need to get a grip

Wrong bengals pay coaches well, Lou snd Pitcher top 10 by position , ZT and Pollock top 15 by position

(5 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: Wrong bengals pay coaches well, Lou snd Pitcher top 10 by position , ZT and Pollock top 15 by position

1.5 mill for a DC is CHEAP which is what Lou was making....nice try tho. I DC like everybody is wanting is gonna cost 3-5 mill a year NOT gonna happen

(5 hours ago)Essex Johnson Wrote: Wrong bengals pay coaches well, Lou snd Pitcher top 10 by position , ZT and Pollock top 15 by position

If true that means they clearly OVERPAID on some of those coaches.