(8 hours ago)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I'm all on board for keeping him, but as a rotational player and restructured: you absolutely cannot bring him back at that high cap number and giving him the majority of snaps when he isn't effective as a pass rusher anymore (and he was always just, "good enough," at that, nothing outstanding, as his strength is in run D) with him declining, it just makes it harder to do all the things we NEED to do.

I realize Hubbard has not been his old self for the last two years. The questions I want to know are if he's having surgery to correct whatever it is that is hobbling him. If he's not, then he needs to be gone. If he is, then how long is the rehab? Everybody talks about how he is not a great pass rusher like they talk about Sample is not a great pass catcher. Those are not their strengths. Sample is on the field for his blocking, and Hubbard is on the field to shut down the run. If we replace him that's fine with me, but it needs to be a DE that can stop the run and contain Lamar like Hubbard has been able to do, and not just someone who rushes the passer but lets the run go right past him, because there are plenty of those in the league too.

(7 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: I realize Hubbard has not been his old self for the last two years. The questions I want to know are if he's having surgery to correct whatever it is that is hobbling him. If he's not, then he needs to be gone. If he is, then how long is the rehab? Everybody talks about how he is not a great pass rusher like they talk about Sample is not a great pass catcher. Those are not their strengths. Sample is on the field for his blocking, and Hubbard is on the field to shut down the run. If we replace him that's fine with me, but it needs to be a DE that can stop the run and contain Lamar like Hubbard has been able to do, and not just someone who rushes the passer but lets the run go right past him, because there are plenty of those in the league too.

I agree, that's what I even said above.

AFAIR, he said he was going to get surgery after the Titans game (not the surgery itself, that he said he was going to get it), so that should fix it up.

(6 hours ago)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I agree, that's what I even said above.

AFAIR, he said he was going to get surgery after the Titans game (not the surgery itself, that he said he was going to get it), so that should fix it up.

Yep. I know he opted not to have the surgery because it would cost him the entire year this year. I'm not sure what his injury is, so I'm hoping he can recover in time to be 100% in the spring, nut it sounds like a lengthy recovery whatever it is.

(5 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Yep. I know he opted not to have the surgery because it would cost him the entire year this year. I'm not sure what his injury is, so I'm hoping he can recover in time to be 100% in the spring, nut it sounds like a lengthy recovery whatever it is.

It wont matter - he wont be on the team.  They are not going to waste 11 Million in 2025 on an Injury rehabbing, 30 year old who has declined YoY for the last 3 seasons and just turned in a horrific 2024 season. 

The money will be better spent elsewhere to make the team more competitive and the Defense better

This is about as basic as it gets from a football operations standpoint.