(01-13-2025, 01:16 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Well that’s the problem. If you’re comparing him to what he was said coming out that’s the problem. Just look at boy of work.especially this last year. Did a light job finally click? He’s been my dream 3rd round pick. But think he’s gotta go rd2 now. And would have no qualms there. At worst he’s a prime Sam Hubbard but a better pass rusher. A 8-9 sack a year guy. And a leader of men. You take that all day. At best? He turns into max Crosby. (no this isn’t likely)

You’re dreaming if you think tyliek makes it to rd2.  He’s pretty consensually top 20 on big boards.

Sawyer had 14 sacks his first three years, while Hubbard had 17. It's far from a slam dunk he will be a better pass rusher.  Looking at college production, Sawyer is a poor man's Hubbard.  

(01-13-2025, 01:27 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The highly acclaimed MDD consensus has him currently at 34, which I feel is 20-30 spots too high. As good as he is at times, there are also games where he disappears and is a non-factor.

As for Sawyer, that same big board has him currently at 47, yes he did have a good year, but once his speed is measured I feel like he's going to drop at least by a round.

Sawyer projected a 4.6 40 time. Regarding Williams you’re right. Teams may want him to lose weight. He was extremely impactful in pass rusher as a rookie when he was playing 290. Team wanted him to play Nose, so he’s now 320. Still very impactful but not as agile.

(01-13-2025, 02:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'm not sure where that 5.6 number came from, I don't think that he's quite that slow, but you'd like to see 4.8 or better from an edge rusher with his size/weight.

Expected 4.6

(01-13-2025, 02:36 PM)Whatever Wrote: Sawyer had 14 sacks his first three years, while Hubbard had 17. It's far from a slam dunk he will be a better pass rusher.  Looking at college production, Sawyer is a poor man's Hubbard.  

I think sawyer is gonna test much better than you think.

(Yesterday, 11:32 AM)Jpoore Wrote: I think sawyer is gonna test much better than you think.

Nah he's gonna run a 4.8 or high 4.7 and not even touch Sam Hubbard's 3-cone which was ridiculous. The big question will be is a 1.5 guy or a 1.6 guy in the 10 yard split. I believe he's going to be closer to a high 1.6 guy. 

(01-12-2025, 02:52 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Today's Jack Sawyer mean, mean pride

We are on same page my dude