(01-22-2025, 09:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Hiring DL before DC is strange. Also know maybe they didn't have the most talent to work with, but also sure is strange hiring so many fired coaches from a back-to-back 4-13 team.

As fast as we signed Golden after Championship game, tells me he has influence in that decision, it actually makes total sense if he said he like Montgomery to be on his staff, lock him up while they had to wait on Golden..

(01-22-2025, 08:34 PM)pally Wrote: Montgomery was a longtime DL coach (9 years) with the Packers.  Spent last season with the Patriots but has 20 years as a defensive line coach

Jerry Montgomery is 45 and entering his 20th season coaching DL between college and pros. Spent nine seasons in Green Bay.

Interesting to see #Bengals fill both trench positions with New England cast-offs. Will be familiar conversations between Montgomery and Scott Peters.

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) January 22, 2025

  

Montgomery coached some good DL's in Green Bay. I like the hire.

(01-22-2025, 08:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Surprised they did this before bringing in the DC

(01-22-2025, 09:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Hiring DL before DC is strange. Also know maybe they didn't have the most talent to work with, but also sure is strange hiring so many fired coaches from a back-to-back 4-13 team.

They didn't hire Montgomery before Golden pretty sure it was at the same time. Golden wanted Montgomery and I don't blame him.

(01-22-2025, 11:41 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: He was at Oklahoma. Hell of a recruiter and players liked him a ton. He left Oklahoma for the Packers. He was pretty good but that was 10 years ago. Didn’t get along with Mike Stoops. He was one of many in that regard.

Good to know. I liked a lot of DL's in Green Bay. Interested in how many players he got to work with. Clay Matthews sure was a beast back in the day.

Really like Kenny Clark their DT. The Smith's Preston and Zaddarius, Gary etc.

(01-23-2025, 11:55 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: As fast as we signed Golden after Championship game, tells me he has influence in that decision, it actually makes total sense if he said he like Montgomery to be on his staff, lock him up while they had to wait on Golden..

Without a doubt and why not make that hire to sweeten the deal in Golden's eyes.  It isn't like Jerry doesn't have very solid credentials too. Win/win.

Honestly the packers dline has not been good since Raji dropped off after the Super Bowl win.
The packers run d has been atrocious up until this past season.
Their pass rush comes from their linebackers so their dline has been a weakness for atleast 5 years.

Not sure on this hire.

He asked and GB drafted Karl Brooks, he's got an eye for talent.

(01-23-2025, 04:50 PM)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: Honestly the packers dline has not been good since Raji dropped off after the Super Bowl win.
The packers run d has been atrocious up until this past season.
Their pass rush comes from their linebackers so their dline has been a weakness for atleast 5 years.

Not sure on this hire.

1. Their dline has been very good for a long time.
2. B.J. Raji is one of the most overrated DL players of the past 30 years. He is remembered for his stupid dance after his pick-6 in the playoffs and for being drafted way too high. That dline was all Ryan Pickett, Cullen Jenkins and Mike Daniels (in later years), Raji did very little and had only 1 good year out of 6.
3. Zadarius is a hybrid DE/LB. Same with Preston Smith. Gary is now a pure DL after doing both DE and LB, 50/50. Kenny Clark is a NT (and infinitely better than Raji ever was). Karl Brooks is a mini-Geno.

I'm not saying he's a slam dunk hire, but this reads as if you're thinking of the Packers D from literally 15 years ago and not present day.

(01-24-2025, 10:45 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: 1. Their dline has been very good for a long time.
2. B.J. Raji is one of the most overrated DL players of the past 30 years. He is remembered for his stupid dance after his pick-6 in the playoffs and for being drafted way too high. That dline was all Ryan Pickett, Cullen Jenkins and Mike Daniels (in later years), Raji did very little and had only 1 good year out of 6.
3. Zadarius is a hybrid DE/LB. Same with Preston Smith. Gary is now a pure DL after doing both DE and LB, 50/50. Kenny Clark is a NT (and infinitely better than Raji ever was). Karl Brooks is a mini-Geno.

I'm not saying he's a slam dunk hire, but this reads as if you're thinking of the Packers D from literally 15 years ago and not present day.

Wow, you know the Packers pretty well. Good information, seems like Montgomery might just be the guy to work with and elevate some of the current DL personnel on the Bengals as well as be a strong voice towards who the add going forward.

(01-24-2025, 10:45 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: 1. Their dline has been very good for a long time.
2. B.J. Raji is one of the most overrated DL players of the past 30 years. He is remembered for his stupid dance after his pick-6 in the playoffs and for being drafted way too high. That dline was all Ryan Pickett, Cullen Jenkins and Mike Daniels (in later years), Raji did very little and had only 1 good year out of 6.
3. Zadarius is a hybrid DE/LB. Same with Preston Smith. Gary is now a pure DL after doing both DE and LB, 50/50. Kenny Clark is a NT (and infinitely better than Raji ever was). Karl Brooks is a mini-Geno.

I'm not saying he's a slam dunk hire, but this reads as if you're thinking of the Packers D from literally 15 years ago and not present day.

Cullen Jenkins played ages ago.

My point was Raji had one or two good years before he revealed to be a dud. And he was their last decent dline draft pick. Which says something.

Sure, in the past the packers had good dlines.
But in the recent past it’s been their defensive weakness.

Their pass D has been great the last 5-10 years but their run d has been terrible. Their pass rush comes from their linebackers, which have been pretty decent.

maybe Packerbacker will pop in and give us some insight on Montgomery

(01-24-2025, 10:45 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: 1. Their dline has been very good for a long time.
2. B.J. Raji is one of the most overrated DL players of the past 30 years. He is remembered for his stupid dance after his pick-6 in the playoffs and for being drafted way too high. That dline was all Ryan Pickett, Cullen Jenkins and Mike Daniels (in later years), Raji did very little and had only 1 good year out of 6.
3. Zadarius is a hybrid DE/LB. Same with Preston Smith. Gary is now a pure DL after doing both DE and LB, 50/50. Kenny Clark is a NT (and infinitely better than Raji ever was). Karl Brooks is a mini-Geno.

I'm not saying he's a slam dunk hire, but this reads as if you're thinking of the Packers D from literally 15 years ago and not present day.

Nice post Truck, also have to ask, in a 3-4 where the Linebackers play pretty much on the DL if the DL coach is their main coach or not?

It would seem even the LB coach would be coaching more of the MIKE/Stack backers rather than the pass rushers...

Has this hire been confirmed by the team? I don't see it on the coaches page

(Yesterday, 05:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Has this hire been confirmed by the team? I don't see it on the coaches page

I don't know if the team has confirmed but Al Golden has talked about looking forward to working with Montgomery during interviews with Dan Hoard and another with Dave Lapham. 

(Yesterday, 05:23 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Has this hire been confirmed by the team? I don't see it on the coaches page

Strange. He was announced earlier than Golden.

(Yesterday, 06:26 PM)Synric Wrote: I don't know if the team has confirmed but Al Golden has talked about looking forward to working with Montgomery during interviews with Dan Hoard and another with Dave Lapham. 

(Yesterday, 07:51 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Strange. He was announced earlier than Golden.

Yeah, I was looking at the homepage today and the only D coaches are Golden and the DB guys we never parted ways with.

But if Golden is talking about him in interviews, you'd assume it's done.

My guess for LB coach is the dude Golden replaced here: Tem Lukaku

We have announced the hiring of Jerry Montgomery as defensive line coach/run game coordinator and Mike Hodges as linebackers coach.

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— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) January 27, 2025

Is it common for a DLine coach to be a run game coordinator?

(1 hour ago)sloSTI Wrote: Is it common for a DLine coach to be a run game coordinator?

Maybe they were in competition for his services..... 

(1 hour ago)sloSTI Wrote: Is it common for a DLine coach to be a run game coordinator?

It wouldn't seem so, would it? 

But he had the same profile with GB the last two years: 

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-hire-two-defensive-position-coaches

Anyone remember anything about the Saints Lb's?