Interesting Info from a scout who has scouted him and the A&M DL for years.

https://www.bengals.com/news/2025-bengals-draft-notebook-the-hows-and-whys

"The Texas A&M defensive line is one of the most unique position groups in college football," Sarkisian says. "Every year with Terry Price, he was getting two, three, four players drafted every year. Shemar's traits are in the same class with Myles Garrett. "

"Nobody saw more quick passing games than A&M. Everybody was afraid of their defensive line, and they all schemed to stop this guy as a priority," Sarkisian says. "All those guys had a lot of production. He was the guy who led them in pressures."

They see Stewart as a big weapon in matching the AFC North competition. Sarkisian points to plays Stewart made in the running game.

"Go back to the South Carolina game. He blows up a read option in the backfield. One of the most violent plays I saw all fall," he says. "Go back to Arkansas with all the read option stuff they do when you see him make great chase-down plays. He looks like a safety at times running in pursuit."

(04-28-2025, 02:54 PM)Nepa Wrote: Well, since you were one of the earliest and strongest advocates for Amarius Mims, on his bandwagon well before last year's draft day, I'm sold on any analysis you have. If you say Shamar Stewart is going to be a disruptive, freak player, who just needs some not-too-hard coaching, then I'm sold. I wish you sold me on him before the draft, as you did with Mims, so I could have appeared informed when the pick was made.

Thanks Nepa, I did want Mims the most of about anybody before we drafted him.

I didn't research Shemar much at all before the draft since I didn't expect him to be the pick with so many saying he was another Myles Murphy.

I thought if that was the case we would of stayed as far away from Stewart as possible. After we drafted him I had to research up and if you watch
the film he is scary talented. When you see a player that big, move that fast it really stands out. The new Defensive coaches couldn't get a more 
talented player to work with. Synric was the one who provided the film and I think knew the most about Stewart before the draft.

Stewart dominated the Senior Bowl practices.

(04-28-2025, 02:59 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Interesting Info from a scout who has scouted him and the A&M DL for years.

https://www.bengals.com/news/2025-bengals-draft-notebook-the-hows-and-whys

"The Texas A&M defensive line is one of the most unique position groups in college football," Sarkisian says. "Every year with Terry Price, he was getting two, three, four players drafted every year. Shemar's traits are in the same class with Myles Garrett. "

"Nobody saw more quick passing games than A&M. Everybody was afraid of their defensive line, and they all schemed to stop this guy as a priority," Sarkisian says. "All those guys had a lot of production. He was the guy who led them in pressures."

They see Stewart as a big weapon in matching the AFC North competition. Sarkisian points to plays Stewart made in the running game.

"Go back to the South Carolina game. He blows up a read option in the backfield. One of the most violent plays I saw all fall," he says. "Go back to Arkansas with all the read option stuff they do when you see him make great chase-down plays. He looks like a safety at times running in pursuit."

I think it’s naive for some to think (not you)!Golden doesn’t have a lot of contacts in college to call to get the real lowdown on players. At least for awhile. The unfiltered low down. Not like the people at Clemson who have been instructed to not say anything damaging. I bet he had great info on a few of our draft guys.

(04-28-2025, 03:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thanks Nepa, I did want Mims the most of about anybody before we drafted him.

I didn't research Shemar much at all before the draft since I didn't expect him to be the pick with so many saying he was another Myles Murphy.

I thought if that was the case we would of stayed as far away from Stewart as possible. After we drafted him I had to research up and if you watch
the film he is scary talented. When you see a player that big, move that fast it really stands out. The new Defensive coaches couldn't get a more 
talented player to work with. Synric was the one who provided the film and I think knew the most about Stewart before the draft.

Stewart dominated the Senior Bowl practices.

Yep. Even Walter Nolan only had 5 or so sacks in his 2 years at A&M. All A&M DL play tight on the OL which is their scheme. Very tough for a DE to get space when you play tight formations on the DL and mainly due to the fact that SS got chipped and doubled almost more than any other DE in America. There's a reason why most pass-rushing defenses split wide when rushing the passer so DE's can create a path and get their spot.A&M does not do that.

SS is a complete physical freak we've not seen in years. The NFL will be far better suited for him because NFL teams provide far more interior pass rushers that can get to the QB so OL will not be able to double him nearly as much.

When the draft process started folks were all over Nic Scourton because he had 10 sacks at Purdue his final year there. I kept telling them they had the wrong T A&M Olineman. This year Nic got 5 and Stew got 1.5. Imma say Stew beats Nic this year and throughout their careers.

WTS I wish Nic the best

McKinnley Jackson sure is excited to be reunited with his former linemate from A&M.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals-news/shemar-stewart-mckinnley-jackson-texas-am-teammates-2025-nfl-draft/

Quote:The Cincinnati Bengals drafting Shemar Stewart in the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft has sparked many a conversation about his college production, or there lack of. There are just as many who aren't concerned about it as there are with concerns.

Count Bengals defensive tackle McKinnley Jackson into the first group.

"Don't let the numbers fool you. He is him," Jackson said of Stewart to Laurel Pfahler of Dayton Daily News. "He's worth the pick."

If nothing else, Jackson knows Stewart better than any one of his new teammates.

Jackson, one of Cincinnati's third-round picks from last year's draft, played two years with Stewart at Texas A&M. Stewart actually out-snapped Jackson as a true freshman in 2022 but the latter out-produced him in tackles, tackles for loss, and sacks for the season. That was also the case in 2023 when Jackson was a full-time starter and Stewart held more of a rotational role.

The reason why Jackson became a late Day 2 pick and Stewart is set to sign a first-rounder's contract has nothing to do with the numbers, and Jackson knows it. He also knows that what matters now is turning those athletic gifts into good use at the NFL level.

"When he learns how to use it, I'll feel like he's unstoppable," Jackson told Cincinnati.com's Kelsey Conway. "I'm always gonna critique him because I just love the guy that much because I've always seen him as a little brother since he came in.

"I'm willing to help this guy become what he needs to be."

College teammates following each other into the NFL can be a great story to watch unfold. Cincinnati may have the best example of it with LSU legends Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase together for the long haul.

Jackson and Stewart becoming pillars of the Bengals' defensive line would be just what the doctor ordered on that side of the ball.

That's the optimistic outcome, but Stewart (and Jackson for that matter) has a ways to go before achieving that potential. Having Jackson push him like he did in college may be a critical advantage for Cincinnati. Stewart also talked about following Trey Hendrickson's lead, but with Hendrickson expected to be away from the team while he awaits a new contract, Jackson may have to take on that leadership role for him.

It'll take a village, but Stewart having a known ally next to him can do nothing but help him.

(04-29-2025, 12:39 PM)higgy100 Wrote: Yep. Even Walter Nolan only had 5 or so sacks in his 2 years at A&M. All A&M DL play tight on the OL which is their scheme. Very tough for a DE to get space when you play tight formations on the DL and mainly due to the fact that SS got chipped and doubled almost more than any other DE in America. There's a reason why most pass-rushing defenses split wide when rushing the passer so DE's can create a path and get their spot.A&M does not do that.

SS is a complete physical freak we've not seen in years. The NFL will be far better suited for him because NFL teams provide far more interior pass rushers that can get to the QB so OL will not be able to double him nearly as much.

Great post Higgy. A&M is a different type of Defense that is for sure. That scheme as you say has the DL play tight on the OL which is wild
with how much Shemar still stands out in the film. Imagine him having a little more room with that lighting quick first step, he will be in the 
OL's face instantly and coming for the QB so fast they won't know what is happening. Truly think at the very least Shemar is going to open 
up things for others, but even then Trey will still be the one Offense's focus on the most so that should open things up for Shemar for once.

Shemar was the DL that Offenses tried to slow down the most at A&M as he was their most dangerous DL.

(04-29-2025, 12:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: When the draft process started folks were all over Nic Scourton because he had 10 sacks at Purdue his final year there. I kept telling them they had the wrong T A&M Olineman. This year Nic got 5 and Stew got 1.5. Imma say Stew beats Nic  this year and throughout their careers.

WTS I wish Nic the best

I think you were right Bfine and are right now. I wanted Scourton in the 2nd round, but looking at Shemar Stewart I think we got the right 
Texas A&M DL.

(04-29-2025, 12:58 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: McKinnley Jackson sure is excited to be reunited with his former linemate from A&M.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals-news/shemar-stewart-mckinnley-jackson-texas-am-teammates-2025-nfl-draft/

Nice read. It is nice for Shemar to have his old teammate McKinnley on his new team. I wanted McKinnley Jackson before we drafted him
as well which is cool. Hope both have a great season this year. I think Kris Jenkins is the one who should make the biggest jump as a pass
rusher this season, but who knows, I thought McKinnley surprised as a pass rusher as a rookie when he was supposed to be a run stopper.

1. McKinnley Jackson on his former Texas A&M teammate Shemar Stewart, drafted #17 overall:
“I’m looking at the tape rather than looking at the numbers. The tape is freaking immaculate. This guy is special. He’s like a freaking bullet train.” pic.twitter.com/v8LpMQNw4q

— Dan Hoard (@Dan_Hoard) April 28, 2025

I watch his tape and because he’s 21 i cannot help but like the pick. 21 in football terms is like a baby. Also if we simplify his role that’ll help too to start his career. Like bruh we not asking you to be Sam Hubbard. Can you be 1st and 2nd down Sam Hubbard? Can you just contain the edge and stop the run. That’s all we need. If it’s not a pass get your ass outside and contain. Don’t even try and force yourself to make plays yet. You are so strong and fast that you will be able to affect plays just by effort alone. As you learn the game then let your instincts become part of the game but for now bro just use your athleticism to get in plays. For right now missed tackles aren’t bad. Trey will clean up alot of your misses anyway. Just get to the play. Learn whatever hand moves you need to just be there. You getting even 1 hand on a guy is helping us.

Now Trey and Ossai they ass need to finish. But right now maybe until like week 10 all I’m asking Stewart to do is be near the play.


With all that said he wouldn’t start for me just yet. I trust Trey and Ossai in that spot for now cause i know they are finishers.

Honestly I’d play Stewart on the inside more than most ppl probably would.

(04-29-2025, 12:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: When the draft process started folks were all over Nic Scourton because he had 10 sacks at Purdue his final year there. I kept telling them they had the wrong T A&M Olineman. This year Nic got 5 and Stew got 1.5. Imma say Stew beats Nic this year and throughout their careers.

WTS I wish Nic the best

No matter how much i like Stewart’s potential the lack of production is alarming

(04-30-2025, 09:57 AM)Housh Wrote: I watch his tape and because he’s 21 i cannot help but like the pick. 21 in football terms is like a baby. Also if we simplify his role that’ll help too to start his career. Like bruh we not asking you to be Sam Hubbard. Can you be 1st and 2nd down Sam Hubbard? Can you just contain the edge and stop the run. That’s all we need. If it’s not a pass get your ass outside and contain. Don’t even try and force yourself to make plays yet. You are so strong and fast that you will be able to affect plays just by effort alone. As you learn the game then let your instincts become part of the game but for now bro just use your athleticism to get in plays. For right now missed tackles aren’t bad. Trey will clean up alot of your misses anyway. Just get to the play. Learn whatever hand moves you need to just be there. You getting even 1 hand on a guy is helping us.

Now Trey and Ossai they ass need to finish. But right now maybe until like week 10 all I’m asking Stewart to do is be near the play.


With all that said he wouldn’t start for me just yet. I trust Trey and Ossai in that spot for now cause i know they are finishers.

Honestly I’d play Stewart on the inside more than most ppl probably would.

Could be correct on how Shemar is used as a rookie. Ossai has never been very good at stopping the run though, so I think there is a 
definite possibility that Shemar gets a lot of snaps on running downs as a rookie. Also think Shemar can play on the inside and be more
disruptive than Ossai who actually has a lot of snaps on the inside for the Bengals over his career.

We are all forgetting about Murphy, but that is okay, good to forget about him until he commands attention.

(04-30-2025, 09:59 AM)Housh Wrote: No matter how much i like Stewart’s potential the lack of production is alarming

Of course it is. But he has all the talent to get the production if he puts in the work and is used correctly. Just heard Luke Kuechly on Up
and Adams with Kay saying Shemar has the highest upside of any pass rusher in this Draft. He said even over Abdul Carter as he is a more
stand up rusher. Pretty eye opening stuff from a former great NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

(04-30-2025, 09:59 AM)Housh Wrote: No matter how much i like Stewart’s potential the lack of production is alarming

It's not alarming at all if you actually take the time to also understand the A&M defensive scheme.  Their DL pinches very tight to the OL.Their, and SS, main job is taking away the run. They also don't place their DE's out wide in an 8 or 9 techique like almost all teams do which gives DE's space to accelerate. SS had OL hands all over him on passing downs and at least 75% of the time he was doubled or chipped and still had tons of pressures and hits.This kid is a freak and the NFL is so better sited for him because you simply can't teach size, strength and athletic ability.

(04-30-2025, 02:19 PM)higgy100 Wrote: It's not alarming at all if you actually take the time to also understand the A&M defensive scheme.  Their DL pinches very tight to the OL.Their, and SS, main job is taking away the run. They also don't place their DE's out wide in an 8 or 9 techique like almost all teams do which gives DE's space to accelerate. SS had OL hands all over him on passing downs and at least 75% of the time he was doubled or chipped and still had tons of pressures and hits.This kid is a freak and the NFL is so better sited for him because you simply can't teach size, strength and athletic ability.

Lack of production is alarming even knowing that Stewart played mostly 6i/5t. He still fell off tackles/sacks was disruptive but wild & tended to play disjointed leading to ending up on the ground. 


Alot of talent but #1 he needs better awareness, control, and eye discipline. Stewart is young and only has about 1200ish snaps in 3 years most of them coming in 2024. 

(04-30-2025, 02:19 PM)higgy100 Wrote: It's not alarming at all if you actually take the time to also understand the A&M defensive scheme.  Their DL pinches very tight to the OL.Their, and SS, main job is taking away the run. They also don't place their DE's out wide in an 8 or 9 techique like almost all teams do which gives DE's space to accelerate. SS had OL hands all over him on passing downs and at least 75% of the time he was doubled or chipped and still had tons of pressures and hits.This kid is a freak and the NFL is so better sited for him because you simply can't teach size, strength and athletic ability.

I don't think you can emphasize this enough.  I will be very interested to see how he does when he gets turned loose in a true pass rush type setting. 

He's already a very good run defender, I can only imagine the improvement he will make with his tools at the NFL level.  His speed and first step are an instant upgrade to what we have on the edge right now.

(04-30-2025, 02:19 PM)higgy100 Wrote: It's not alarming at all if you actually take the time to also understand the A&M defensive scheme.  Their DL pinches very tight to the OL.Their, and SS, main job is taking away the run. They also don't place their DE's out wide in an 8 or 9 techique like almost all teams do which gives DE's space to accelerate. SS had OL hands all over him on passing downs and at least 75% of the time he was doubled or chipped and still had tons of pressures and hits.This kid is a freak and the NFL is so better sited for him because you simply can't teach size, strength and athletic ability.

I'm excited to see him on the field. The one thing I noticed is that he's always going 100MPH, which can cause missed tackles. Hopefully with some coaching on how to settle his hips and balance for reaction... he's going to be a force of nature. 

(04-30-2025, 03:13 PM)Synric Wrote: Lack of production is alarming even knowing that Stewart played mostly 6i/5t. He still fell off tackles/sacks was disruptive but wild & tended to play disjointed leading to ending up on the ground. 


Alot of talent but #1 he needs better awareness, control, and eye discipline. Stewart is young and only has about 1200ish snaps in 3 years most of them coming in 2024. 

I've already comped his playing style to Taylor Mays. Sometimes it's harder to slow a guy down than speed them up. If SS hits we got a top 5 pick, if he can't get under control he won't be in the league long. I'm 100% positive it was not because he didn't have the sacks to be a leading tackler, he and his team just misused them. 

(04-29-2025, 10:26 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote:

1. McKinnley Jackson on his former Texas A&M teammate Shemar Stewart, drafted #17 overall:
“I’m looking at the tape rather than looking at the numbers. The tape is freaking immaculate. This guy is special. He’s like a freaking bullet train.” pic.twitter.com/v8LpMQNw4q

— Dan Hoard (@Dan_Hoard) April 28, 2025

Lets get this party going, two teammates playing hard next to each other, nice move by Bengals..

(04-30-2025, 03:13 PM)Synric Wrote: Lack of production is alarming even knowing that Stewart played mostly 6i/5t. He still fell off tackles/sacks was disruptive but wild & tended to play disjointed leading to ending up on the ground. 


Alot of talent but #1 he needs better awareness, control, and eye discipline. Stewart is young and only has about 1200ish snaps in 3 years most of them coming in 2024. 

There's not a player in the draft that doesn't need control or better  awareness when jumping up to this level. He was as disruptive a player as there was in college FB last year. There's always the guy in the spotlight that gets the sack, jumps on the loose ball or gets the tackle. But for damn near every time that happens there's another player that caused that disruption. 

He's a freak and he needs to be corraled in and that's exactly what NFL coaching will do. Few guys in the NFL get constant doubled or even chipped and that happened extensively to SS in college. I was ecstatic with this pick. I've known about this kid for 5 years going back to college recruiting and have watched him extensively especially being familiar with the scheme at A&M.

(Yesterday, 02:23 PM)higgy100 Wrote: There's not a player in the draft that doesn't need control or better  awareness when jumping up to this level. He was as disruptive a player as there was in college FB last year. There's always the guy in the spotlight that gets the sack, jumps on the loose ball or gets the tackle. But for damn near every time that happens there's another player that caused that disruption. 

He's a freak and he needs to be corraled in and that's exactly what NFL coaching will do. Few guys in the NFL get constant doubled or even chipped and that happened extensively to SS in college. I was ecstatic with this pick. I've known about this kid for 5 years going back to college recruiting and have watched him extensively especially being familiar with the scheme at A&M.

Hell yeah Higgy. Love it man, that one play against South Carolina when Shemar blows up the RB and the QB at the same time kind of shows what 
we could possibly have here. It was like when Geno Atkins used to throw stealer Guards into the Pig.

(04-30-2025, 03:13 PM)Synric Wrote: Lack of production is alarming even knowing that Stewart played mostly 6i/5t. He still fell off tackles/sacks was disruptive but wild & tended to play disjointed leading to ending up on the ground. 


Alot of talent but #1 he needs better awareness, control, and eye discipline. Stewart is young and only has about 1200ish snaps in 3 years most of them coming in 2024. 

I dont see alarming since players with better stats also get dradted hifh and dont work out mostly do to their lack of athletic ability to play at nfl level.