(06-15-2025, 10:45 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: What mascot will  Salt lake city or San Antonio decide to call the relocated Bengals?  

San Antonio in the NBA has the SPURS... so they would dump the bengals and probably go with the cowboy accessories tradition like:

San Antonio belt buckles or whips/lasso or S.A. bandanas or the most popular.. San Antonio Chaps.. hehe..

(Yesterday, 01:47 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I like San Antonio Rattlers

The San Antonio Churros would be Barkley’s pick.

(Yesterday, 01:00 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: And a large number of scouts etc...said that stewart was a steal  ..a disrupter..unlimited potential etc...you are making a muntain out of a molehill...stewart will sign ...the sun will come up tomorrow

I wanted to take the time to thank you for edumuh-cating me about the Bengals 1st rd pick this season. As is the case in all seasons since around 1979, I rarely know anything about the guys we draft.  

I know what his potential is, you condescending ass. He's a GD Rookie, and a very raw one at that. He needs to get his ass in camp, close his damn d-sucker, and start learning how to play at this level. 

(Yesterday, 03:09 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I wanted to take the time to thank you for edumuh-cating me about the Bengals 1st rd pick this season. As is the case in all seasons since around 1979, I rarely know anything about the guys we draft.  

I know what his potential is, you condescending ass. He's a GD Rookie, and a very raw one at that. He needs to get his ass in camp, close his damn d-sucker, and start learning how to play at this level. 

Dude @-quoted me twice over the post where I offered the Brown family takes the difficult path in player negotiations and I think it would be more enjoyable if we just had Trey and Shemar signed. He's just randomly typing contrarian thoughts at this point. 

I should test it out it by being pro-owner and then again being pro-player. I bet him, and a couple others, will reply telling me I'm wrong no matter which side I take.

For anyone who wants some objective and brief cliff notes
https://youtube.com/shorts/vU4YbJgKdYc?si=ABbGEu3cd4RBlLVu

(Yesterday, 03:09 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I wanted to take the time to thank you for edumuh-cating me about the Bengals 1st rd pick this season. As is the case in all seasons since around 1979, I rarely know anything about the guys we draft.  

I know what his potential is, you condescending ass. He's a GD Rookie, and a very raw one at that. He needs to get his ass in camp, close his damn d-sucker, and start learning how to play at this level. 

Thank you also...as a mature fan then you would know that minicamps are nothing more than a few hours of tag football..stewart has been on the sidelins taking everything in...none of us knows ..aside from a very few top picks..how rookies will perform in the nfl...if I am correct Brady was A 5 th round draft pick..because we disagree does not make me condescending...stewart and hendrickson both will be in summer training camp...this whole issue..in its entirety has been a non story..almost every team in the nfl has similar issues this time of the year

(Yesterday, 03:29 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: Dude @-quoted me twice over the post where I offered the Brown family takes the difficult path in player negotiations and I think it would be more enjoyable if we just had Trey and Shemar signed. He's just randomly typing contrarian thoughts at this point. 

I should test it out it by being pro-owner and then again being pro-player. I bet him, and a couple others, will reply telling me I'm wrong no matter which side I take.

I am not being anything..the Brown Family has done a great job in putting together a very good football team and even with the inordinate amount of injuries we have suffered have one of the best records in the NFL the past 4 years...National viewer ratings of the Bengals since Burrow has arrived..the Bengals are one of the top 5 teams...every homegame is sold out...the difference between you and I is that I put very little credibility into the fiction that sportswriters try and create...The Bengals have spent a ton of money in players..Higgins was resigned and I would imagine both Stewart and Trey will be in summer training camp..This is professional sports..you can go to every NFLs team local website and articles about player negotiations..coaches..the draft FA take place on a daily basis..Its not a bengals or brown family thing..have a nice day

(Yesterday, 02:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I can't imagine a place that has a shot to get an NFL team would decline because they already have a UFL team, that's even if the UFL is still around by the time the Bengals could move there.

also a new franchise in texas could easily fall between san antionio and austin and yes, UFL team is like having a minor league hockey team and saying we happy with a minor team over a major team..lol

(Yesterday, 04:57 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: I am not being anything..the Brown Family has done a great job in putting together a very good football team and even with the inordinate amount of injuries we have suffered have one of the best records in the NFL the past 4 years...National viewer ratings of the Bengals since Burrow has arrived..the Bengals are one of the top 5 teams...every homegame is sold out...the difference between you and I is that I put very little credibility into the fiction that sportswriters try and create...The Bengals have spent a ton of money in players..Higgins was resigned and I would imagine both Stewart and Trey will be in summer training camp..This is professional sports..you can go to every NFLs team local website and articles about player negotiations..coaches..the draft  FA take place on a daily basis..Its not a bengals or brown family thing..have a nice day

The Brown family ineptitude at running a professional football team netted them two high first round picks which resulted in Burrow and Chase. That's what has created a very good football team more so than any effort by ownership.

"the difference between you and I is that I put very little credibility into the fiction that sportswriters try and create" is an ignorant statement because you have absolutely no idea what I think or believe about the media other than what you're trying to infer by any posts I've made on this forum. At least pause and think before you type another post littered with disjointed sentences.

Your point about the NFL local website is strange because no NFL team website focuses on criticism of its own organization. It's irrelevant to the topic being discussed. The team sites are vanilla ice cream reporting basic information from a writer paid to be pro-team.

(Yesterday, 01:51 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Admittedly, this is a lot to bet on if your Cincinnati. Murphy was worse on a per-snap basis than he was in 2023. He failed to log a sack and logged only five more pressures on 50 more snaps. That's just the numbers side of it, but from a film perspective I don't see anything that gives the signal of "big year incoming". He was already being utilized in stunts, so that aspect won't be new to him. 

Now, Ossai had his best year as a pro last season so he may continue growing. There's at least some optimism there. Murphy didn't look good, though. Regardless, Trey is a top tier pass rusher. I think him not being available hurts Cincinnati more than it hurts him.

How about the Thunder? We gotta meet at Butcher BBQ stand for lunch. DM me with your cell. https://www.butcherbbqstand.com/ It’s incredible 

(Yesterday, 05:54 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: also a new franchise in texas could easily fall between san antionio and austin and yes, UFL team is like having a minor league hockey team and saying we happy with a minor team over a major team..lol

Yes, though I was thinking more like my wife turning down Hugh Jackman because she's married to me. 

(Yesterday, 04:57 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: I am not being anything..the Brown Family has done a great job in putting together a very good football team and even with the inordinate amount of injuries we have suffered have one of the best records in the NFL the past 4 years...National viewer ratings of the Bengals since Burrow has arrived..the Bengals are one of the top 5 teams...every homegame is sold out...the difference between you and I is that I put very little credibility into the fiction that sportswriters try and create...The Bengals have spent a ton of money in players..Higgins was resigned and I would imagine both Stewart and Trey will be in summer training camp..This is professional sports..you can go to every NFLs team local website and articles about player negotiations..coaches..the draft  FA take place on a daily basis..Its not a bengals or brown family thing..have a nice day

What in the world are you talking about? Here is where we rank according to adjusted games lost from injury, which takes into account who the players are the last 5 years. (1 being the most injured, 32 being the least injured)

2020: 13th
2021: 26th
2022: 30th
2023:3rd
2024:18th

Average: We've lost the 18th most adjusted games due to injury the last 5 years. We're healthier than the average team has been.

For context: Here are the Ravens & Browns during the same period of time

The Ravens have averaged out to have the 15th most adjusted games lost due to injury. 
2020:24th
2021:1st
2022:8th
2023:13th
2024:32nd

The Browns - Even if you said the Browns were the healthiest team in 2021 AND 2022, they would average out to have the 15th most adjusted games lost due to injury. So again, they have more injuries than we had.
2020:1st
2021: data unavailable
2022: data unavailable
2023:4th
2024: 6th


We haven't even been the most injured team in our division, let alone have dealt with an "inordinate amount of injuries"

(Yesterday, 05:54 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: also a new franchise in texas could easily fall between san antionio and austin and yes, UFL team is like having a minor league hockey team and saying we happy with a minor team over a major team..lol

The Bengals were never moving away from Cincinnati....IF they moved it would be north to Butler County or south to NKY....the are never moving away from the region...the threat they made was towards Hamilton County specifically...only the national media and the uninformed think they would move out of the state

(5 hours ago)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: What in the world are you talking about? Here is where we rank according to adjusted games lost from injury, which takes into account who the players are the last 5 years. (1 being the most injured, 32 being the least injured)

2020: 13th
2021: 26th
2022: 30th
2023:3rd
2024:18th

Average: We've lost the 18th most adjusted games due to injury the last 5 years. We're healthier than the average team has been.

For context: Here are the Ravens & Browns during the same period of time

The Ravens have averaged out to have the 15th most adjusted games lost due to injury. 
2020:24th
2021:1st
2022:8th
2023:13th
2024:32nd

The Browns - Even if you said the Browns were the healthiest team in 2021 AND 2022, they would average out to have the 15th most adjusted games lost due to injury. So again, they have more injuries than we had.
2020:1st
2021: data unavailable
2022: data unavailable
2023:4th
2024: 6th


We haven't even been the most injured team in our division, let alone have dealt with an "inordinate amount of injuries"

Number of injuries are meaningless. The position and timing of the injured is more meaningful. As in last year when almost all of our DT's were injured at the same time makes it worse than having the same number of injuries spread across the roster.

(3 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: Number of injuries are meaningless. 

No, it's not. It just doesn't tell the whole story. If you have a high number of injuries, you're going to be missing guys who produce on the field in some capacity. It's meaningful, but doesn't provide the full scope of impact.

Quote:The position and timing of the injured is more meaningful. As in last year when almost all of our DT's were injured at the same time makes it worse than having the same number of injuries spread across the roster.

I agree with this. The entire team outside of Burrow could stay healthy and the impact from that Burrow injury would be very heavy-handed. 

(7 hours ago)TecmoBengals Wrote: The Brown family ineptitude at running a professional football team netted them two high first round picks which resulted in Burrow and Chase. That's what has created a very good football team more so than any effort by ownership.

"the difference between you and I is that I put very little credibility into the fiction that sportswriters try and create" is an ignorant statement because you have absolutely no idea what I think or believe about the media other than what you're trying to infer by any posts I've made on this forum. At least pause and think before you type another post littered with disjointed sentences.

Your point about the NFL local website is strange because no NFL team website focuses on criticism of its own organization. It's irrelevant to the topic being discussed. The team sites are vanilla ice cream reporting basic information from a writer paid to be pro-team.

A couple of draft picks does not guarantee winning teams..again...over the course of the past 4 years..even with a tremendous amount of injuries...the bengals have one of the best winning percentages in the NFL..In nationally televised games..the Bengals are one of the biggest draws in viewership..and finally...every home game is sold out...the difference between you and I is that I deal in facts not conjecture or past inadequacies..also and let me clarify...most national sportswriters..at this time of the year..are finding fault with players ,draft picks and FA pickups by alomost every team in the NFL...very few franchises escape the wrath of negative critique..this is not a Bengal or Brown Family thing...have a great day

(3 hours ago)KillerGoose Wrote: No, it's not. It just doesn't tell the whole story. If you have a high number of injuries, you're going to be missing guys who produce on the field in some capacity. It's meaningful, but doesn't provide the full scope of impact.


I agree with this. The entire team outside of Burrow could stay healthy and the impact from that Burrow injury would be very heavy-handed. 

I agree..but lets remember..and even Burrow himself said so..he was not 100% last year..we were without our 2 starting left tackles..Higgins was hobbled the entire season and we has numerous significant injuries to many players on the defensive side if the ball....Good news...we stay healthy this year..its gonna be alot oif fun

(16 minutes ago)ERIC1 Wrote: A couple of draft picks does not guarantee winning teams..again...over the course of the past 4 years..even with a tremendous amount of injuries...the bengals have one of the best winning percentages in the NFL..In nationally televised games..the Bengals are one of the biggest draws in viewership..and finally...every home game is sold out...the difference between you and I is that I deal in facts not conjecture or past inadequacies..also and let me clarify...most national sportswriters..at this time of the year..are finding fault with players ,draft picks and FA pickups by alomost every team in the NFL...very few franchises escape the wrath of negative critique..this is not a Bengal or Brown Family thing...have a great day

How many more times will you post this exact same rhetoric?

(5 hours ago)Lucius Cincinnatus Wrote: What in the world are you talking about? Here is where we rank according to adjusted games lost from injury, which takes into account who the players are the last 5 years. (1 being the most injured, 32 being the least injured)

2020: 13th
2021: 26th
2022: 30th
2023:3rd
2024:18th

Average: We've lost the 18th most adjusted games due to injury the last 5 years. We're healthier than the average team has been.

For context: Here are the Ravens & Browns during the same period of time

The Ravens have averaged out to have the 15th most adjusted games lost due to injury. 
2020:24th
2021:1st
2022:8th
2023:13th
2024:32nd

The Browns - Even if you said the Browns were the healthiest team in 2021 AND 2022, they would average out to have the 15th most adjusted games lost due to injury. So again, they have more injuries than we had.
2020:1st
2021: data unavailable
2022: data unavailable
2023:4th
2024: 6th

Its not just the numbers its the players..burrow said it himself he was not 100% last year...we lost two starting offensive tackes..Higgins was injured all year .and we had numerous injuries to starters defensively..


We haven't even been the most injured team in our division, let alone have dealt with an "inordinate amount of injuries"