Not that everybody takes it, but Shemar did not do the 3 cone test at the combine. This tests for agility and change of direction. For the life of me, i cant figure out his lack of productivity and why he didnt finish plays. I dont think i see any lack of effort, at all, on film.

(Yesterday, 02:26 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Not that everybody takes it, but Shemar did not do the 3 cone test at the combine.  This tests for agility and change of direction.  For the life of me, i cant figure out his lack of productivity and why he didnt finish plays.  I dont think i see any lack of effort, at all, on film.

One explanation is he is raw & does not tackle well, nor take good angles. Maybe he gets over excited and overpursues. Maybe his football "sense" isn't that good/IQ that high. 

Maybe bit of each. 

But he is young. Good work ethic. Seems well liked by coaches & teammates. Coachable. 

Despite lacking sacking, he still graded out well vs the run. Some positionsl versatility, willing to play inside some. 

Whatever it is, the hope is it is something that can be improved with coaching, experience, learning, & growth. 

(Yesterday, 02:26 PM)Goalpost Wrote: Not that everybody takes it, but Shemar did not do the 3 cone test at the combine.  This tests for agility and change of direction.  For the life of me, i cant figure out his lack of productivity and why he didnt finish plays.  I dont think i see any lack of effort, at all, on film.

He has agility, pretty sure you saw that in Shemar's film. Like you said, he plays really hard. If you notice he gets lost when he puts 
his head down when he is lined up and that is when he loses the QB and doesn't dominate the OL. He needs to wrap up once he gets 
to the QB.

This can be taught. Get Trey extended and in camp, he will show him.

(Yesterday, 03:04 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: One explanation is he is raw & does not tackle well, nor take good angles. Maybe he gets over excited and overpursues. Maybe his football "sense" isn't that good/IQ that high. 

Maybe bit of each. 

But he is young. Good work ethic. Seems well liked by coaches & teammates. Coachable. 

Despite lacking sacking, he still graded out well vs the run. Some positionsl versatility, willing to play inside some. 

Whatever it is, the hope is it is something that can be improved with coaching, experience, learning, & growth. 

Pretty spot on Ike. Shemar has the stuff you cannot teach. My only worry is his IQ honestly after him talking about his dispute publicly.

But as you say he was universally liked by his coaches at A&M so there is hope. All I know is he can set the edge like a mutha in the run 
game and that is sorely needed on this team. Trey is not the best run stopper, neither is Ossai and Murphy was terrible stetting the edge
last season. Shemar should be an instant upgrade over washed up Sam.

He will be much more disruptive as well with his lightning quick first step, athleticism, power and strength. All elite.

Montgomery was essentially Stewart's private coach today working with him one on one during position drills and coaching him up after every play

(Yesterday, 03:24 PM)pally Wrote: Montgomery was essentially Stewart's private coach today working with him one on one during position drills and coaching him up after every play

Love it. If Montgomery can be an upgrade over Hobby coaching up the youth on the DL good days are ahead for this Defense.

(Yesterday, 03:24 PM)pally Wrote: Montgomery was essentially Stewart's private coach today working with him one on one during position drills and coaching him up after every play

It'd be nice if we had a sack specialist he could learn from. 

The Bengals passing game is doing what you’d expect over the last few days. Burrow is pushing the ball down the field.

There have been a handful of splash plays from the first team secondary (Stone and Ivey especially, Newton vs the run), but the offense has had the upper hand.…

— Charlie Goldsmith (@CharlieG__) July 27, 2025

Not great on DJ Turner. He’s often been the one getting burnt on a bunch of the clip I’ve seen.

(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It'd be nice if we had a sack specialist he could learn from. 

Bfine hating on the FO again...

(Yesterday, 03:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The Bengals passing game is doing what you’d expect over the last few days. Burrow is pushing the ball down the field.

There have been a handful of splash plays from the first team secondary (Stone and Ivey especially, Newton vs the run), but the offense has had the upper hand.…

— Charlie Goldsmith (@CharlieG__) July 27, 2025

Not great on DJ Turner. He’s often been the one getting burnt on a bunch of the clip I’ve seen.

Doesn't sound great with Stone who I wanted replaced either. This guy sucked last year. But it is Burrow and it is nice hearing our 
run game doing some damage for once, just wish it was against another team.

(Yesterday, 03:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The Bengals passing game is doing what you’d expect over the last few days. Burrow is pushing the ball down the field.

There have been a handful of splash plays from the first team secondary (Stone and Ivey especially, Newton vs the run), but the offense has had the upper hand.…

— Charlie Goldsmith (@CharlieG__) July 27, 2025

Not great on DJ Turner. He’s often been the one getting burnt on a bunch of the clip I’ve seen.

From all accounts, looks like Stone had a good week, he has mentioned at least couple times he likes Goldens defense style.

Well the offense could do that to anybody in shorts. We all knew the offense with all the starters and same scheme would be ahead of the defense. The defense still learning. Hopefully it’s not a sign of issues. Too early to panic.

(Yesterday, 01:33 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: He looks big. I'd like to see him next to some of our other DEs. I wasn't a fan of the pick but I'm excited to see him in action and hope he proves me wrong.
 

I saw him walk in with Mckinnely, he is very defined, but man Mckinnley is a bulldog in size... 

(Yesterday, 03:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The Bengals passing game is doing what you’d expect over the last few days. Burrow is pushing the ball down the field.

There have been a handful of splash plays from the first team secondary (Stone and Ivey especially, Newton vs the run), but the offense has had the upper hand.…

— Charlie Goldsmith (@CharlieG__) July 27, 2025

Not great on DJ Turner. He’s often been the one getting burnt on a bunch of the clip I’ve seen.

He got burned all of last year. He’s too small. Yes he’s fast, but the receivers he goes against are just as fast and 6-8” taller, and 30lbs heavier.

He’s not good and will get burnt all year. We needed to upgrade CB this offseason and we didn’t.

(Yesterday, 04:03 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: He got burned all of last year. He’s too small. Yes he’s fast, but the receivers he goes against are just as fast and 6-8” taller, and 30lbs heavier.

He’s not good and will get burnt all year. We needed to upgrade CB this offseason and we didn’t.

The guy you wanted Byron Murphy is 5.11 like DJ as is Denzel Ward. DJ is 5.11.

(Yesterday, 04:03 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: He got burned all of last year. He’s too small. Yes he’s fast, but the receivers he goes against are just as fast and 6-8” taller, and 30lbs heavier.

He’s not good and will get burnt all year. We needed to upgrade CB this offseason and we didn’t.

I disagree on Turner. He was really starting to come on last year and then got hurt. Definitely think we needed to add depth to that position that might push him to more of a backup role. But I'm not concerned about Turner.

https://youtu.be/x-6W8Xy7ZTo?si=_W-c4hOCdDFUaNMy

(Yesterday, 03:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It'd be nice if we had a sack specialist he could learn from. 

If we are waiting on a disgruntled player to sign and come in to teach our rookie. A guy that has very little interaction with the other players and is quiet and leads by example over words then we are in trouble.

The coaches should be able to get the rookie up to speed with tape and coaching on the field. I am not expecting Hendrikson to come in a coach up our rookie words of encouragement and a tip here or there yes but not much more than that.

(Yesterday, 04:03 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: He got burned all of last year. He’s too small. Yes he’s fast, but the receivers he goes against are just as fast and 6-8” taller, and 30lbs heavier.

He’s not good and will get burnt all year. We needed to upgrade CB this offseason and we didn’t.

lol exaggerate much on the size ? lol

(Yesterday, 03:52 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Bfine hating on the FO again...


Doesn't sound great with Stone who I wanted replaced either. This guy sucked last year. But it is Burrow and it is nice hearing our 
run game doing some damage for once, just wish it was against another team.

from reports he  had a good week including today from what i have read and watched at the practice the db and safeties  had a nice red zone session to end day. He had a bad year last year but was productive in Baltimore, and from all accounts is loving Goldens defense style.

(Yesterday, 03:52 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Bfine hating on the FO again...

Or am I hating on Trey? 

(Yesterday, 05:20 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: If we are waiting on a disgruntled player to sign and come in to teach our rookie. A guy that has very little interaction with the other players and is quiet and leads by example over words then we are in trouble.

The coaches should be able to get the rookie up to speed with tape and coaching on the field. I am not expecting Hendrikson to come in a coach up our rookie words of encouragement and a tip here or there yes but not much more than that.

Obviously, we're not waiting on him, but a lot can be gained by watching how someone who has excelled on the field goes about his business on the training field/drills. 

Coaches can coach, teammates can inspire. Currently, Ossai is our veteran to learn from on the field.