(10 hours ago)rfaulk34 Wrote: People need to take a breath on Patrick until after the Commanders game. Some guys play better than they practice so i'm not super concerned about what's going on in camp...yet. 

Against Philly, he whiffed hard on 1 passpro rep and 1 run rep. 
He looked a little confused on who to block on 1 run away from him.
He looked late on 1 stunt and the chop block was him tripping and touching a defender, on the ground, while he was already engaged. Not every one of those miscues affected the play negatively. 

I don't see a RG Volson 2.0 or a Cappa from last year, just yet. 

This monday night should be a line of demarcation to whether they roll with him or look for a replacement, while still having time for the "new guy" to get reps. 

Of course we have to give Patrick another chance. It was his first preseason game with us and he wasn't terrible either like you show.

The one knock I had on Patrick though was he gets injured a lot and it is happening again. Risner has to be better than Volson or Ford at RG.

It would be different if Patrick wasn't getting banged up and these 2 or another Guard besides Fairchild was impressing IMO.

(10 hours ago)puddycat Wrote: Jalen Rivers, Caleb Etienne, Cordell Volson, Jason Kirkland, Matt Lee, Seth McLaughlin, Andrew Raym, Lucas PATRICK, Cody Ford, Andrew Stueber, Devin Cochran, Andrew Coker

Here are the 12 offensive lineman on the roster that can't play the easiest position to play, RG, on the line at an acceptable level.  Some are dinged up, but the rest are too weak, too slow, or too unskilled.  Why would anyone think the front office are the people to solve this problem?

It's in their job description--so they're technically the people that solve those types of problems (working alongside the coaches).

Whether they will do a competent job is to be determined--we'll have to wait and see.

(10 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Of course we have to give Patrick another chance. It was his first preseason game with us and he wasn't terrible either like you show.

The one knock I had on Patrick though was he gets injured a lot and it is happening again. Risner has to be better than Volson or Ford at RG.

It would be different if Patrick wasn't getting banged up and these 2 or another Guard besides Fairchild was impressing IMO.

Maybe they are waiting to bring in Risner until after training camp so our 1st round pick doesn't injure him. (insert laughing emoji)

(10 hours ago)Bengalstripes9 Wrote: Maybe they are waiting to bring in Risner until after training camp so our 1st round pick doesn't injure him. (insert laughing emoji)

That Stewart is a dangerous fella...

(10 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Of course we have to give Patrick another chance. It was his first preseason game with us and he wasn't terrible either like you show.

The one knock I had on Patrick though was he gets injured a lot and it is happening again. Risner has to be better than Volson or Ford at RG.

It would be different if Patrick wasn't getting banged up and these 2 or another Guard besides Fairchild was impressing IMO.

I had assumed Risner might be a little bit of a cost even though its late as part of the reason hes still available. But he seems reasonably cheap really. I mean get him in here for depth and to be waiting in the wings.

For anyone still on Scherff train. He is officially retired.

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In other AFC North news Quinshon Judkins is not being charged so he could play week 1.

In house solutions.

Is Ford the back up swing tackle an option. He has looked bad at RG this year and is our only option for a backup swing tackle. NO

Is Volson the answer at RG. Volson had 4 years to learn to play LG and failed that is why we drafter Fairchild. NO

Is Kirkland the guy to fix RG. I have not heard his name mentioned at RG let alone seen tape of him there this year. NO

Is Patrick the answer at RG. He has looked very bad so far and will be worse than Cappa last year once the NFL sharks realize he is the weakest link. NO

Karras is the only option we have not tried there this season but yeah let us all throw our hands up in the air and say we tried. Maybe

I hope Patrick works out for Joe's sake and ours as fans. I would just rather try every option before I determined we have no in house solution.

(6 hours ago)BengalsBong Wrote: In house solutions.

Is Ford the back up swing tackle an option. He has looked bad at RG this year and is our only option for a backup swing tackle. NO

Is Volson the answer at RG. Volson had 4 years to learn to play LG and failed that is why we drafter Fairchild. NO

Is Kirkland the guy to fix RG. I have not heard his name mentioned at RG let alone seen tape of him there this year. NO

Is Patrick the answer at RG. He has looked very bad so far and will be worse than Cappa last year once the NFL sharks realize he is the weakest link. NO

Karras is the only option we have not tried there this season but yeah let us all throw our hands up in the air and say we tried. Maybe

I hope Patrick works out for Joe's sake and ours as fans. I would just rather try every option before I determined we have no in house solution.

Risner is estimated price tag of 6mil for 2yrs. Even if that is on the cheap side of the estimation I can't believe we wouldn't bring this guy into the building. I can accept not bringing more talent on defense but the OL situation is ridiculous. Monday night better go good or they have to do something.

(6 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Risner is estimated price tag of 6mil for 2yrs. Even if that is on the cheap side of the estimation I can't believe we wouldn't bring this guy into the building. I can accept not bringing more talent on defense but the OL situation is ridiculous. Monday night better go good or they have to do something.

I agree on bringing more options in whoever it is. I am just not happy standing pat with the hand we currently have even if the new guys are cheap contacts and a shot in the dark.

Worst case we might improve our depth.

(8 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I had assumed Risner might be a little bit of a cost even though its late as part of the reason hes still available. But he seems reasonably cheap really. I mean get him in here for depth and to be waiting in the wings.

Yeah, he isn't even spendy, so no excuse and he is healthy from what everyone has said all Offseason. Good pass protector which is 
what we need more than anything. I can understand wanting a better run blocker but a banged up Patrick might not be any better.

Depth at worst would be the Risner signing and great insurance.

(5 hours ago)BengalsBong Wrote: I agree on bringing more options in whoever it is. I am just not happy standing pat with the hand we currently have even if the new guys are cheap contacts and a shot in the dark.

Worst case we might improve our depth.

Completely agree here BengalsBong.

(4 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, he isn't even spendy, so no excuse and he is healthy from what everyone has said all Offseason. Good pass protector which is 
what we need more than anything. I can understand wanting a better run blocker but a banged up Patrick might not be any better.

Depth at worst would be the Risner signing and great insurance.


Completely agree here BengalsBong.

Yeah i mean he can play either guard spot. It makes too much sense not to do. If Patrick was playing well I may not like the depth but I would understand not making a move. But not sure we have anyone else on the roster that improves the play unless we start shifting guys around. Which I agree would be a risk.

(10 hours ago)puddycat Wrote: Jalen Rivers, Caleb Etienne, Cordell Volson, Jason Kirkland, Matt Lee, Seth McLaughlin, Andrew Raym, Lucas PATRICK, Cody Ford, Andrew Stueber, Devin Cochran, Andrew Coker Here are the 12 offensive lineman on the roster that can't play the easiest position to play, RG, on the line at an acceptable level.  Some are dinged up, but the rest are too weak, too slow, or too unskilled.  Why would anyone think the front office are the people to solve this problem?

Why is RG the easiest position to play on the OL?
While some DTs usually rush from the same side (or just always from the blind side of the QB), some DTs (like Aaron Donald did) will either rush against the LG or RG depending on the play call.
RG should have just as challenging of a time as LG in today's NFL, no?

(2 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Why is RG the easiest position to play on the OL?

Because you're playing against the UT/NT who is often least threat to rush the passer.  Usually the right end is the best pass rusher and the interior pass rusher are both on the right (left side of the offense).  You do have to be more aware of blitzers and stunts than the OTs.  In a dynamic rushing attack both guards may be called on to pull; the center has to recognize and call out defenses.