UFA - Who Do You Want Back?

In order of 2016 cost....

LT - Big Whit - $9 Mill
DT - Peko - $4.5 Mill
WR - B LaFell - $2.5 Mill
CB - Dre - $2.15 Mill
G - K Eitler - $1.88 Mill
RT - E Winston - $1.09 Mill
RB - Ced - $1.06 Mill
DE - Margus Hunt - $917,000
DE - Wallace Gilberry - $885,000
DT - Brandon Thompson - $840,000
CB - Chykie Brown - $760,000
CB - B Boykin - $760,000
K - R Bullock - $760,000
RB - Sexy Rexy - $565,000

(01-02-2017, 11:54 AM)corpjet Wrote: LT - Big Whit - $9 Mill
DT - Peko - $4.5 Mill

CB - Dre - $2.15 Mill
G - K Zeitler - $1.88 Mill

RB - Ced - $1.06 Mill
DE - Margus Hunt - $917,000

K - R Bullock - $760,000
RB - Sexy Rexy - $565,000

The big "if" on this list is Zeitler.  He isn't worth more than above average guard money.  Maybe $6 million per?  If he thinks he is getting more, go for it.  We aren't paying it.

The no-doubters are Whit, Dre, and Sexy.  

Love Peerman on ST, and I think Hunt is still a solid choice as a rotational lineman in any spot, plus he single-handedly changed the outcome of three games with blocked kicks.  (Although the Texans game was still a loss, they would have lost the Redskin game, and did win the Jet game...and this was really his first year getting chances).

Lastly, I included Peko because I believe in a rotational situation, he is still a very smart and tough player.  It wasn't his fault Billings and Hardison went down early and Fat Pat has zero conditioning.  I think he can still contribute and I want him to retire a Bengal.  

Whit should be a priority.

LaFell earned another contract. Won't cost much and he's reliable.

Dre is playing better than the other corners.

I'd keep Zeitler.

I'd keep Dre over Zeitler if it comes down to choosing between the two.

I'd take Gilberry over Hunt. Defensive line plays better when Gilberry is in the rotation and he doesn't cost much.

I'd keep Burkhead, he's a decent backup.

I'd keep whit, Lafell, dre, Z, Hunt as a backup and burkhead

(01-02-2017, 11:54 AM)corpjet Wrote: UFA - Who Do You Want Back?

In order of 2016 cost....

LT - Big Whit - $9 Mill
DT - Peko - $4.5 Mill
WR - B LaFell - $2.5 Mill
CB - Dre - $2.15 Mill
G - K Eitler - $1.88 Mill
RT - E Winston - $1.09 Mill
RB - Ced - $1.06 Mill
DE - Margus Hunt - $917,000
DE - Wallace Gilberry - $885,000
DT - Brandon Thompson - $840,000
CB - Chykie Brown - $760,000
CB - B Boykin - $760,000
K - R Bullock - $760,000
RB - Sexy Rexy - $565,000

Weren't Z and dre on 5th year options at like $8 mil each?

Since when did we have Brandon Boykin?

(01-02-2017, 11:54 AM)corpjet Wrote: UFA - Who Do You Want Back?

In order of 2016 cost....

LT - Big Whit - $9 Mill - Yes if we don't draft a tackle at #9 overall
DT - Peko - $4.5 Mill - Indifferent, but if he's back, it's with a steep paycut
WR - B LaFell - $2.5 Mill - Depends on how much he wants and if we take a Mike Williams
CB - Dre - $2.15 Mill - I'm reluctant to pay a guy who only produced in a contract year
G - K Zeitler - $1.88 Mill - Say goodbye if the cost is too high
RT - E Winston - $1.09 Mill - Considering Ogbuehi/Fisher, we should upgrade Winston
RB - Ced - $1.06 Mill - Bye
DE - Margus Hunt - $917,000 - I'd bring him back on the cheap just to block kicks
DE - Wallace Gilberry - $885,000 - He's had 2.5 sacks in 5 games. Bring him back on a 1 year deal to keep him motivated
DT - Brandon Thompson - $840,000 - Bye
CB - Chykie Brown - $760,000 - Bye
CB - B Boykin - $760,000 - Keep I guess
K - R Bullock - $760,000 - Keep unless a clearly better option comes available
RB - Sexy Rexy - $565,000 - Depends on the price and whether they draft a RB or cut Jeremy Hill

Answers above

(01-02-2017, 01:25 PM)milksheikh Wrote: Since when did we have Brandon Boykin?

This was back when we were known as the Chicago Bears. You don't remember that part of the season? 

I voted DreK and Zeit.

The rest are expendable. Including Whit.

Bash me all you want but he is old and had quite a few plain boneheaded penalties this season. If he wants back up money for a back up role then I'd consider it.

(01-02-2017, 12:00 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: The big "if" on this list is Zeitler.  He isn't worth more than above average guard money.  Maybe $6 million per?  If he thinks he is getting more, go for it.  We aren't paying it.

The no-doubters are Whit, Dre, and Sexy.  

Love Peerman on ST, and I think Hunt is still a solid choice as a rotational lineman in any spot, plus he single-handedly changed the outcome of three games with blocked kicks.  (Although the Texans game was still a loss, they would have lost the Redskin game, and did win the Jet game...and this was really his first year getting chances).

Lastly, I included Peko because I believe in a rotational situation, he is still a very smart and tough player.  It wasn't his fault Billings and Hardison went down early and Fat Pat has zero conditioning.  I think he can still contribute and I want him to retire a Bengal.  

Zeitler was rated as like the fourth best offensive lineman at his position in 2016 by PFT. He was really good this year, as was Whit. I think letting Zeitler walk would be a mistake, much like when we let Andre Smith walk. 

(01-02-2017, 01:25 PM)milksheikh Wrote: Since when did we have Brandon Boykin?

Could have sworn Brandon Boykin was a wide receiver for the Packers... 

(01-02-2017, 06:46 PM)Lawless_1 Wrote: I voted DreK and Zeit.

The rest are expendable. Including Whit.

Bash me all you want but he is old and had quite a few plain boneheaded penalties this season. If he wants back up money for a back up role then I'd consider it.

6 penalties all year, none that killed drives or cost us anything.

Shut up with this idiocy.

Zeitler and Whitworth are the only two that have to be back.

Rex Burkhead is a must. Guy runs hard and finds the hole. I think if he would have started over Hill we may have made the playoffs this year.

(01-02-2017, 06:46 PM)Lawless_1 Wrote: I voted DreK and Zeit.

The rest are expendable. Including Whit.

Bash me all you want but he is old and had quite a few plain boneheaded penalties this season. If he wants back up money for a back up role then I'd consider it.

Yes, because the Bengals are loaded with great tackles once you take Whit out of the equation. I am sure Dalton appreciates getting hit every 1.5 seconds, too.

"Oh, All-Pro LT? I'll give him backup money. I prefer Ogbuehi and Fisher, thank you."

Big Whit-A Must
Peko-No-time to move on from him
B LaFell-Maybe-Think we will be fine with Core and Boyd, he did play well, would consider if cheap
Dre K-Dont Care-Kinda done with this knucklehead
K Zeitler-A Must
E Winston-Would be nice
Ced Peer-dont care-we will draft our new ST gunner in the first round
M Hunt-dont care
Wallace Gilberry-Yes-if cheap
Brandon Thompson-Yes-if cheap
Chykie Brown-Why
Brandon Boykin-Who
Randy Bullock-Yes-depends on draft and FA
Sexy Rexy Burkhead-Yes-Tough Kid

(01-02-2017, 01:22 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Weren't Z and dre on 5th year options at like $8 mil each?

yes they were..Zeitler at a little over 8, Dre at 7.5

Who I want back in order or priority:

1. Andrew Whitworth
2. Kevin Zeitler
3. Brandon LaFell
4. Dre Kirkpatrick
5. Rex Burkhead
6. Cedric Peerman

Who I think they'll bring back:

1. Andrew Whitworth
2. Domata Peko
3. Dre Kirkpatrick
4. Brandon LaFell
5. Cedric Peerman
6. Margus Hunt

There are already reports of them talking with Peko's people. Unless other teams are beating down his door, I think he's back. Jim O has repeatedly beat the drum about them not wanting anywhere near a 10 mil per contract for Zeitler. I don't think they let him and Dre both walk.

They are insane if they let Whitworth walk. His play hasn't dropped off much if at all and the o-line is going to get even weaker when Zeitler chases a contract elsewhere. Whit is way too important and his departure creates a huge need at LT since nobody here now can do the job effectively. That means there's a good chance they go OT in 1 if one is available. This equals a weaker roster than they began with this season.

(01-02-2017, 06:52 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Zeitler was rated as like the fourth best offensive lineman at his position in 2016 by PFT. He was really good this year, as was Whit. I think letting Zeitler walk would be a mistake, much like when we let Andre Smith walk. 

Letting Fat Andre walk wasn't the mistake...he was out again for being fat, I mean injured.  Not starting Fisher at RT over Ced was the mistake, and at the very least, make the switch earlier when it was obvious to everyone else he was not ready.  
I like Zeitler, but he simply isn't worth the kind of money he is likely to be looking for.  A team like Cleveland, with a ton of cap space after their purge, might over pay him but that doesn't mean the Bengals should.  Maybe sign a veteran FA Guard if they aren't sure about Westerman, and there is always the draft.  

(01-02-2017, 11:54 AM)corpjet Wrote: UFA - Who Do You Want Back?

In order of 2016 cost....

LT - Big Whit - $9 Mill
DT - Peko - $4.5 Mill
WR - B LaFell - $2.5 Mill
CB - Dre - $2.15 Mill
G - K Eitler - $1.88 Mill
RT - E Winston - $1.09 Mill
RB - Ced - $1.06 Mill
DE - Margus Hunt - $917,000
DE - Wallace Gilberry - $885,000
DT - Brandon Thompson - $840,000
CB - Chykie Brown - $760,000
CB - B Boykin - $760,000
K - R Bullock - $760,000
RB - Sexy Rexy - $565,000