I miss Burfict already.

When he was good, he was good. I don't care what they say about him. He might be able to get it back for a year if motivated on a new team and trying to show he belongs. It's his long term health that's concerning.

Someone has to step up on D or in that lb room, and they got big shoes to fill.

Just like when Chad left it's time. Unfortunately for Vontaz he was satisfied with being good and not great. I didn't mind the suspension but coming in out of shape every training camp and not being a leader will always bother me. He could play and it would not surprise me if he bounces back but dude did not give an F last year and it showed.

(03-18-2019, 07:42 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Just like when Chad left it's time. Unfortunately for Vontaz he was satisfied with being good and not great. I didn't mind the suspension but coming in out of shape every training camp and not being a leader will always bother me. He could play and it would not surprise me if he bounces back but dude did not give an F last year and it showed.

You didn't mind the suspensions?

(03-18-2019, 07:44 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You didn't mind the suspensions?

I don't mind players crossing the line especially if there on my team.  You need physical intimidation on your team to win. You need a pitcher that throws at the head in baseball,  you need a fighter in Hockey,  you need a big man that fouls hard in Basketball, and you need a player that can take a person's head off when he goes across the middle in football.

(03-18-2019, 09:03 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: I don't mind players crossing the line especially if there on my team.  You need physical intimidation on your team to win. You need a pitcher that throws at the head in baseball,  you need a fighter in Hockey,  you need a big man that fouls hard in Basketball, and you need a player that can take a person's head off when he goes across the middle in football.

You needed those things 20 years ago. Not so much now.

In fact, it's more of a liability.

(03-18-2019, 09:04 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You needed those things 20 years ago. Not so much now.

In fact, it's more of a liability.

I agree with you.  But that comment looks funny next to a Bill Laimbeer avatar.

(03-18-2019, 09:04 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You needed those things 20 years ago. Not so much now.

In fact, it's more of a liability.

Can't disagree with you more. Are leagues cracking down on it sure but those players are still effective. Now I will say that said player needs to be lighter and faster but toughness and intimidation will never be unwanted.

(03-18-2019, 09:11 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Can't disagree with you more. Are leagues cracking down on it sure but those players are still effective. Now I will say that said player needs to be lighter and faster but toughness and intimidation will never be unwanted.

You are confusing "toughness" with "dirty".

You don't have to throw at an opponents head to be a great pitcher, and you don't have to "take their heads off" to be a tough football player.

Playing dirty is stupid and hurts the team.  That silly macho stuff went out with "Water breaks make players soft!"

(03-18-2019, 07:42 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Just like when Chad left it's time. Unfortunately for Vontaz he was satisfied with being good and not great. I didn't mind the suspension but coming in out of shape every training camp and not being a leader will always bother me. He could play and it would not surprise me if he bounces back but dude did not give an F last year and it showed.

By the end if the season, it really looked like it was down to Boyd and Mixon. Everyone else were outta ***** to give. One of the positives I'd always give Marvin was that his teams never quit in him... They did last year.

VB was either loved or hated. I'm not sure the was ever any middle ground with him. When he was ON he was REALLY on, but when he was screwing up he certainly didn't fool around messing up.  Part of me will miss him, the other part glad he's gone. I'll keep the good memories as well as the bad. That's how life works anyway. 

I didn't want Burfict brought here at the beginning. He changed my mind when he got here. He made the Stoolers crazy, and will always have a place in my heart for that. Good luck with the rest of your life Tez….

(03-18-2019, 01:17 PM)Bengalholic Wrote:

Bengals outside linebacker Vontaze Burfict has been cut per source

— Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) March 18, 2019

The #Bengals have released LB Vontaze Burfict, source said.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 18, 2019

BREAKING: Cincinnati Bengals cut linebacker Vontaze Burfict after seven seasons https://t.co/MO01x1H57W

— Enquirer Sports (@ENQSports) March 18, 2019

Just saw this, much respect to Taze, he was my favorite Bengal Linebacker at one point but the concussions have gotten out of hand and he isn't the same anymore. Would like for us to keep him around as another mind if we can, he does know the game very well and might be able to help out our young Linebackers and our new LB coach.

I loved the way VB played, he was one of my favorite players,but it was time to move on. Hopefully he and his family will take some time and decided whats best for him moving forward.

(03-18-2019, 09:04 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: You needed those things 20 years ago. Not so much now.

In fact, it's more of a liability.

Tell that to Kevin Huber....

The brutal truth is that not only did he play poorly, but he didn't give 100 percent effort at times. And I say that not just from what I myself saw, but what opposing players told me on they saw on film and members of the coaching staff told me

— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 18, 2019

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There was one day in the press box I remarked he was spending so much time trying to talk to the officials, I wondered if he was actually paying attention to the game itself https://t.co/p1RNP1BwzJ

— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 18, 2019

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It wasn’t the suspensions. The Bengals defended him on that, particularly the one that occurred in the preseason. Over time things added up, and when your play no longer justifies your salary, well...

— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 18, 2019

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There did seem to be a level of exasperation with Burfict on the coaching staff this year that didn’t exist before.

— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 18, 2019

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Things were looking this way for a while, it was indicated to me that he was not in their long term plans, however, when they didn’t make moves in free agency to replace him, I wondered if they were going to use him as a bridge for another year. https://t.co/CwteYllh2G

— Katherine Terrell (@Kat_Terrell) March 18, 2019

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Burfict is on his way to visit the Raiders. Pauline still likes him. But him and Antonio Brown as teammates