(11-19-2019, 02:03 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: He turned down starting opportunities last offseason to be Brees backup. I feel like he wouldn't come here.

(11-19-2019, 02:18 PM)scorp1974 Wrote: He has value now already.  If he goes in again and gets hurt then he has zero.

I'f Finley is benched put in Dolegala.

(11-19-2019, 10:10 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Please read this entire post before flaming me.

Yes, it's true.  Andy Dalton needs to start one or two more games for the Cincinnati Bengals in 2019.  I'm not against Ryan Finley so don't misunderstand; this is about the future of the team.  It's painfully obvious to all observers that the Bengals have a multiplicity of issues:  Coaching, personnel, and scheme.  Simply going after Tua Tagovailoa, Jalen Hurts, or Joe Burrow will solve next to nothing, unfortunately, because this team is more than just a new quarterback away from success.  If it were up to me I would fire every coach except for special teams and take a blowtorch to the entire roster -- but that's not Mike Brown's way.  Therefore, working within the confines imposed by the Front Office, let's look at a realistic way to begin the rebuild in Cincinnati.

First of all, every coach will likely be retained in 2020.  Mikey Boy will cite injuries and something about giving the new coaches a chance to turn it around taking more than one season.

With zero likely coaching changes, who can realistically be drafted, traded, or retained?

As of now I think the Bengals' best strategy is to build a shutdown defense around Chase Young from Ohio State.  He's the best defensive player I've seen in years and his impact in Cincinnati could mirror that of Nick Bosa in San Francisco.  Geno Atkins looked better against Oakland but he's not getting any younger.  He's going to need fast edge rushers so having Young on one side with Sam Hubbard on the other side would be a needed improvement to the Bengals' almost nonexistent pass rush.

So what about the quarterback position?  I know Mike Brown strikes at shiny objects faster than a hungry barracuda and a big arm quarterback, to Mike's eye, is the shiniest object there is.  I'm all for having Ryan Finley play more games in 2019 but, circling back to my original proposal I think it's time for Andy Dalton to play at least two more games as well.  Teams interested in Dalton need fresh film on him and the Bengals need to win just one game to avoid 0-16 which I find a wholly unacceptable record.  Also, since Dalton has one more year on his contract, he could potentially function as the "bridge" quarterback in 2020 while the Bengals look to Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence -- or Tua Tagovailoa if he stays at Alabama -- in 2021.

If Andy Dalton does not play well in the late games there is a plethora of experienced quarterbacks worth consideration to be the "bridge" for Cincinnati in 2020.  Philip Rivers or even Eli Manning might be great "bridge" quarterbacks to bring in for a season; Drew Brees will be too expensive and Dak Prescott will stay in Dallas.  I would even consider bringing Jameis Winston in for a workout but, even better, what about taking a look at Cam Newton?  If he's healthy he can still compete.

Basically, Bengaldom, we have more options than just Andy Dalton, Ryan Finley, or falling into the trap of drafting a shiny object.

(11-19-2019, 02:52 PM)BengalChris Wrote: First of all, I firmly believe many players will tell the Bengals to not draft them with the #1 pick, starting with Burrows and Young. Why come to the Bungals, where the owner really doesn't give a shit when you can go to a team that wants to win but needs a few players?
 

(11-19-2019, 03:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'd imagine any team that takes Burrow is going to have massive issues, but our issues are so longstanding and well known that the warning alarm has to be blaring in Burrow/Young's ears already.  

As for bringing a vet QB here, it could work but ZT benching Dalton might send a message that you are going to be put in a bad situation and then cast aside in favor of "anyone else."  If we don't draft a QB at #1 overall or thereabouts I don't see why next year we won't just see Dalton's replacement getting benched for Finley again when things go sideways. Or just "see what we have in Finley" all the way to another high draft pick. Sorry Mixon, you might be Frank Gore's age before we put a decent team on the field.

(11-19-2019, 01:44 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think Zac may think Ryan Tannehill is the guy to get us over the hill.

(11-19-2019, 03:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: 1.  We need A LOT more games to judge a rookie QB who did not even get first team reps in practice until 3 weeks ago.

2.  No need to risk getting Dalton injured in a meaningless game.  No matter what we do with him next year he will be more valuable if he is 100% healthy.

(11-19-2019, 04:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Make it stop

(11-19-2019, 03:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'd imagine any team that takes Burrow is going to have massive issues, but our issues are so longstanding and well known that the warning alarm has to be blaring in Burrow/Young's ears already.  

As for bringing a vet QB here, it could work but ZT benching Dalton might send a message that you are going to be put in a bad situation and then cast aside in favor of "anyone else."  If we don't draft a QB at #1 overall or thereabouts I don't see why next year we won't just see Dalton's replacement getting benched for Finley again when things go sideways.  Or just "see what we have in Finley" all the way to another high draft pick.  Sorry Mixon, you might be Frank Gore's age before we put a decent team on the field.

(11-19-2019, 02:13 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:

Now that we have two games from Ryan Finley, let's compare some stats.

Time to throw: 2.83 seconds (Dalton: 2.28)
Time in pocket: 3.01 seconds (Dalton: 2.39)
Under Pressure: 43% of dropbacks (Dalton: 31%)
Completion Percentage when under pressure: 64% (Dalton: 47%)

— Jeaux Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) November 19, 2019

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(11-19-2019, 08:09 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Sadly, I believe you are correct.

Mixon will be gone after next season. He's got no reason to stay here and ZT has already shown that he has no idea how to use Mixon to his fullest.

 

(11-19-2019, 08:42 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: We're messing with Mixon's money, making him look bad behind terrible blocking and schemes. He's shown his potential (under Pollack) already. If I were him, I'd be ghost as soon as my contract was up, and I really think he will be. I guess that may be why we signed Gio to big money. Otherwise, Gio's contract makes little sense as we've barely used him.