(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable.  The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.

This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.

(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable.  The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.

This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.

(05-11-2021, 01:44 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: This list just really hurts to see.

I'm sure I could dig it up but since you already did the search for these teams, is there any other franchise in the NFL that has a front office as small as the Bengals?

(05-11-2021, 01:42 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Does the Media in Cincy ever inquire the team directly
Why it has the smallest front office in the NFL?

(05-11-2021, 02:03 PM)Synric Wrote: Where's Jim McNally on the list?

(05-11-2021, 02:09 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: He's not on the team's website as being on staff:  https://www.bengals.com/team/front-office-roster/

Fwiw, I yanked each one of these from each of the teams pages.

Maybe McNally is like a John Cooper when he was here.  A consultant?  I'm assuming the team website is reserved for salaried employees.

(05-11-2021, 02:12 PM)Synric Wrote: Yea McNally is a hired consultant that does a bunch of scouting for the offensive line. I wonder if there 3 or 4 more "consultants" that work with the scouting department.

(05-11-2021, 02:17 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Let's be honest, if Jim McNally was doing a "bunch of scouting" he'd be a full-time employee.  He's 77 years old and probably works (very) part-time.

I wonder if any of these other team also have consultants that aren't shown among team employees.  The discrepancy seen may even grow when accounted for.  (Ex: Benglals 3 consultants, Browns 10, Ravens 8, Steelers 7.)

(05-11-2021, 02:19 PM)Synric Wrote: Jim McNally has been working for the team scouting offensive line since 2011. 

(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable.  The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.

This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.

(05-11-2021, 01:20 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Steelers
   Kevin Colbert Vice President & General Manager
   Omar Khan Vice President of Football & Business Administration
   Dan Rooney Jr. Player Personnel Coordinator
   Brandon Hunt Pro Scouting Coordinator
   Phil Kreidler College Scouting Coordinator
   Rick Reiprish Senior Assistant, College Scouting
   Mark Bruener College Scout
   Mike Butler College Scout
   Dan Colbert College/Pro Scout
   Kelvin Fisher Scout
   Mark Gorscak College Scout
   Chidi Iwuoma College Scout
   Bruce McNorton College Scout
   Dave Petett Pro/College Scout
   Cole Marcoux Football Administration Coordinator
   Aidan Hennessey-Niland Team Operations Coordinator
   Tosin Kazeem Football Analyst
   Maureen Mannion Administrative Assistant
   Dennis MacInnis BLESTO Scout
   Fawwaz Izzuddin Scouting Intern
   Jay Whitmire Football Analyst

Ravens
  Eric DeCosta Executive Vice President & General Manager
   Ozzie Newsome Executive Vice President
   Pat Moriarty Senior Vice President of Football Operations
   Joe Hortiz Director of Player Personnel
   George Kokinis Director of Player Personnel
   Vincent Newsome Senior Player Personnel Executive
   Nick Matteo Director of Football Administration
   David McDonald Director of Research & Development
   Mark Azevedo Assistant Director of College & Pro Personnel
   David Blackburn National Scout
   Brandon Berning Midwest/Southwest Area Scout
   Joey Cleary West Coast Area Scout
   Andrew Raphael Southeast Area Scout
   Bobby Vega East Area Scout
   Kevin Weidl Southeast/Southwest Area Scout
   Q Attenoukon College & Pro Scout
   Maggie Domanowski Administrative Assistant to Player Personnel
   Corey Frazier Pro Scout
   Jenn Hoffman Executive Assistant to the Executive Vice President & General Manager
   Corey Krawiec Manager, Player Evaluations & Analytics
   Sarah Mallepalle Player Personnel Analyst
   Patrick McDonough College & Pro Scout
   Terrell Parker Football Operations Assistant
   Chas Stallard College & Pro Scout
   Patrick Williams College & Pro Scout
   Derrick Yam Quantitative Analyst
   Jameel McClain Director of Player Engagement
   Sarah Snyder Director of Sports Nutrition
   Johnny Shelton Team Chaplain
   O.J. Brigance Senior Advisor to Player Engagement

Browns
  Andrew Berry Executive Vice President, Football Operations, General Manager
  Kwesi Adofo-Mensah Vice President, Football Operations
   Chris Cooper Vice President, Football Administration
   Ryan Grigson Senior Football Advisor
   Ken Kovash Vice President, Player Personnel Process & Development
   Tyler Hamblin Football Operations Coordinator
   Glenn Cook Vice President, Player Personnel
   Dan Saganey Director, Player Personnel
   Megan Rock Player Personnel Coordinator
   Debra Kruszynski Executive Assistant, Player Personnel/Coaching
   Adam Al-Khayyal Assistant Director, Pro Personnel
   Sam DeLuca Pro Scout
   Branden Francis Pro Scout
   Shaun Herock National Scout
   Charles Walls National Scout
   Zach Ayers Area Scout
   Colton Chapple Area Scout
   Josh Cox Area Scout
   Matt Donahoe Area Scout
   Gerald McCully Area Scout
   Jimmy Noel Area Scout
   Max Paulus Area Scout
   Dan Zegers Area Scout
   Mike Cetta Director, Scouting Research
   Zach Wigmore Scouting Research Coordinator
   Joe Dever Scouting Assistant
   Scott DiBenedetto Scouting Assistant
   Riley Hecklinski Scouting Assistant
   Shane Normandeau Scouting Assistant
   John Nussman Scouting Assistant
   Michael Romanella Scouting Assistant
   Scott Skuteris Scouting Assistant
   Rod Streater Scouting Assistant

Bengals
   Duke Tobin Director of Player Personnel
   Mike Potts Scouting Director (College)
   Steven Radicevic Scouting Director (Pro)
   Bill Tobin Personnel Executive
   Andrew Johnson Scout
   Christian Sarkisian Scout
   Geoff Smith Scouting Technology Consultant
   Debbie LaRocco Personnel Assistant

(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable.  The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.

This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.

(05-11-2021, 02:28 PM)Stewy Wrote: Which posting here changes nothing, posting here has no effect on the product on the field and posting here only serves to make people more cynical, angry and unhappy.  

Well done.

(05-11-2021, 02:28 PM)Stewy Wrote: Which posting here changes nothing, posting here has no effect on the product on the field and posting here only serves to make people more cynical, angry and unhappy.  

Well done.