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Steelers
Kevin Colbert Vice President & General Manager
Omar Khan Vice President of Football & Business Administration
Dan Rooney Jr. Player Personnel Coordinator
Brandon Hunt Pro Scouting Coordinator
Phil Kreidler College Scouting Coordinator
Rick Reiprish Senior Assistant, College Scouting
Mark Bruener College Scout
Mike Butler College Scout
Dan Colbert College/Pro Scout
Kelvin Fisher Scout
Mark Gorscak College Scout
Chidi Iwuoma College Scout
Bruce McNorton College Scout
Dave Petett Pro/College Scout
Cole Marcoux Football Administration Coordinator
Aidan Hennessey-Niland Team Operations Coordinator
Tosin Kazeem Football Analyst
Maureen Mannion Administrative Assistant
Dennis MacInnis BLESTO Scout
Fawwaz Izzuddin Scouting Intern
Jay Whitmire Football Analyst
Ravens
Eric DeCosta Executive Vice President & General Manager
Ozzie Newsome Executive Vice President
Pat Moriarty Senior Vice President of Football Operations
Joe Hortiz Director of Player Personnel
George Kokinis Director of Player Personnel
Vincent Newsome Senior Player Personnel Executive
Nick Matteo Director of Football Administration
David McDonald Director of Research & Development
Mark Azevedo Assistant Director of College & Pro Personnel
David Blackburn National Scout
Brandon Berning Midwest/Southwest Area Scout
Joey Cleary West Coast Area Scout
Andrew Raphael Southeast Area Scout
Bobby Vega East Area Scout
Kevin Weidl Southeast/Southwest Area Scout
Q Attenoukon College & Pro Scout
Maggie Domanowski Administrative Assistant to Player Personnel
Corey Frazier Pro Scout
Jenn Hoffman Executive Assistant to the Executive Vice President & General Manager
Corey Krawiec Manager, Player Evaluations & Analytics
Sarah Mallepalle Player Personnel Analyst
Patrick McDonough College & Pro Scout
Terrell Parker Football Operations Assistant
Chas Stallard College & Pro Scout
Patrick Williams College & Pro Scout
Derrick Yam Quantitative Analyst
Jameel McClain Director of Player Engagement
Sarah Snyder Director of Sports Nutrition
Johnny Shelton Team Chaplain
O.J. Brigance Senior Advisor to Player Engagement
Browns
Andrew Berry Executive Vice President, Football Operations, General Manager
Kwesi Adofo-Mensah Vice President, Football Operations
Chris Cooper Vice President, Football Administration
Ryan Grigson Senior Football Advisor
Ken Kovash Vice President, Player Personnel Process & Development
Tyler Hamblin Football Operations Coordinator
Glenn Cook Vice President, Player Personnel
Dan Saganey Director, Player Personnel
Megan Rock Player Personnel Coordinator
Debra Kruszynski Executive Assistant, Player Personnel/Coaching
Adam Al-Khayyal Assistant Director, Pro Personnel
Sam DeLuca Pro Scout
Branden Francis Pro Scout
Shaun Herock National Scout
Charles Walls National Scout
Zach Ayers Area Scout
Colton Chapple Area Scout
Josh Cox Area Scout
Matt Donahoe Area Scout
Gerald McCully Area Scout
Jimmy Noel Area Scout
Max Paulus Area Scout
Dan Zegers Area Scout
Mike Cetta Director, Scouting Research
Zach Wigmore Scouting Research Coordinator
Joe Dever Scouting Assistant
Scott DiBenedetto Scouting Assistant
Riley Hecklinski Scouting Assistant
Shane Normandeau Scouting Assistant
John Nussman Scouting Assistant
Michael Romanella Scouting Assistant
Scott Skuteris Scouting Assistant
Rod Streater Scouting Assistant
Bengals
Duke Tobin Director of Player Personnel
Mike Potts Scouting Director (College)
Steven Radicevic Scouting Director (Pro)
Bill Tobin Personnel Executive
Andrew Johnson Scout
Christian Sarkisian Scout
Geoff Smith Scouting Technology Consultant
Debbie LaRocco Personnel Assistant
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If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable. The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.
This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.
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(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable. The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.
This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.
Does the Media in Cincy ever inquire the team directly
Why it has the smallest front office in the NFL?
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(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable. The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.
This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.
This list just really hurts to see.
I'm sure I could dig it up but since you already did the search for these teams, is there any other franchise in the NFL that has a front office as small as the Bengals?
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(05-11-2021, 01:44 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: This list just really hurts to see.
I'm sure I could dig it up but since you already did the search for these teams, is there any other franchise in the NFL that has a front office as small as the Bengals?
No, I don't think there's one even remotely close.
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(05-11-2021, 01:42 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Does the Media in Cincy ever inquire the team directly
Why it has the smallest front office in the NFL?
I'm sure they have before but I doubt they've ever got a real explanation.
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Great post. One of your best which is high praise.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Where's Jim McNally on the list?
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(05-11-2021, 02:03 PM)Synric Wrote: Where's Jim McNally on the list?
He's not on the team's website as being on staff: https://www.bengals.com/team/front-office-roster/
Fwiw, I yanked each one of these from each of the teams pages, and exlcuded ownership, trainers, equipment, etc for each team.
Maybe McNally is like a John Cooper when he was here. A consultant? I'm assuming the team website is reserved for salaried employees.
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Great post. The Browns got us beat 33 to 9 if I counted right. Let's be very conservative at $50,000/year * 24 (the difference) = $1.2 million.
Now that's how you make money!!
Unfortunately, you left out the GM of the Bengals, Mike Brown. I would think his salary for that is just built into everything else. So, if we're looking for those extra millions, we know where to find them. 
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(05-11-2021, 02:09 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: He's not on the team's website as being on staff: https://www.bengals.com/team/front-office-roster/
Fwiw, I yanked each one of these from each of the teams pages.
Maybe McNally is like a John Cooper when he was here. A consultant? I'm assuming the team website is reserved for salaried employees.
Yea McNally is a hired consultant that does a bunch of scouting for the offensive line. I wonder if there 3 or 4 more "consultants" that work with the scouting department.
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(05-11-2021, 02:12 PM)Synric Wrote: Yea McNally is a hired consultant that does a bunch of scouting for the offensive line. I wonder if there 3 or 4 more "consultants" that work with the scouting department.
Let's be honest, if Jim McNally was doing a "bunch of scouting" he'd be a full-time employee. He's 77 years old and probably works (very) part-time.
I wonder if any of these other team also have consultants that aren't shown among team employees. The discrepancy seen may even grow when accounted for. (Ex: Benglals 3 consultants, Browns 10, Ravens 8, Steelers 7.)
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(05-11-2021, 02:17 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Let's be honest, if Jim McNally was doing a "bunch of scouting" he'd be a full-time employee. He's 77 years old and probably works (very) part-time.
I wonder if any of these other team also have consultants that aren't shown among team employees. The discrepancy seen may even grow when accounted for. (Ex: Benglals 3 consultants, Browns 10, Ravens 8, Steelers 7.)
Jim McNally has been working for the team scouting offensive line since 2011.
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(05-11-2021, 02:19 PM)Synric Wrote: Jim McNally has been working for the team scouting offensive line since 2011.
I don't recall saying he hasn't. I said he's not a full-time employee and he most likley works very little.
Fwiw, I'm sure other teams have consultants not shown on this list as well. The Browns for example had Ryan Grigson, the former Colts GM as a consultant last season before hiring him full time a year later.
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(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable. The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.
This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.
Yeah but Jackson Carman pickup is putting us first in the AFC North this year, you didn't get the memo? 
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(05-11-2021, 01:20 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Steelers
Kevin Colbert Vice President & General Manager
Omar Khan Vice President of Football & Business Administration
Dan Rooney Jr. Player Personnel Coordinator
Brandon Hunt Pro Scouting Coordinator
Phil Kreidler College Scouting Coordinator
Rick Reiprish Senior Assistant, College Scouting
Mark Bruener College Scout
Mike Butler College Scout
Dan Colbert College/Pro Scout
Kelvin Fisher Scout
Mark Gorscak College Scout
Chidi Iwuoma College Scout
Bruce McNorton College Scout
Dave Petett Pro/College Scout
Cole Marcoux Football Administration Coordinator
Aidan Hennessey-Niland Team Operations Coordinator
Tosin Kazeem Football Analyst
Maureen Mannion Administrative Assistant
Dennis MacInnis BLESTO Scout
Fawwaz Izzuddin Scouting Intern
Jay Whitmire Football Analyst
Ravens
Eric DeCosta Executive Vice President & General Manager
Ozzie Newsome Executive Vice President
Pat Moriarty Senior Vice President of Football Operations
Joe Hortiz Director of Player Personnel
George Kokinis Director of Player Personnel
Vincent Newsome Senior Player Personnel Executive
Nick Matteo Director of Football Administration
David McDonald Director of Research & Development
Mark Azevedo Assistant Director of College & Pro Personnel
David Blackburn National Scout
Brandon Berning Midwest/Southwest Area Scout
Joey Cleary West Coast Area Scout
Andrew Raphael Southeast Area Scout
Bobby Vega East Area Scout
Kevin Weidl Southeast/Southwest Area Scout
Q Attenoukon College & Pro Scout
Maggie Domanowski Administrative Assistant to Player Personnel
Corey Frazier Pro Scout
Jenn Hoffman Executive Assistant to the Executive Vice President & General Manager
Corey Krawiec Manager, Player Evaluations & Analytics
Sarah Mallepalle Player Personnel Analyst
Patrick McDonough College & Pro Scout
Terrell Parker Football Operations Assistant
Chas Stallard College & Pro Scout
Patrick Williams College & Pro Scout
Derrick Yam Quantitative Analyst
Jameel McClain Director of Player Engagement
Sarah Snyder Director of Sports Nutrition
Johnny Shelton Team Chaplain
O.J. Brigance Senior Advisor to Player Engagement
Browns
Andrew Berry Executive Vice President, Football Operations, General Manager
Kwesi Adofo-Mensah Vice President, Football Operations
Chris Cooper Vice President, Football Administration
Ryan Grigson Senior Football Advisor
Ken Kovash Vice President, Player Personnel Process & Development
Tyler Hamblin Football Operations Coordinator
Glenn Cook Vice President, Player Personnel
Dan Saganey Director, Player Personnel
Megan Rock Player Personnel Coordinator
Debra Kruszynski Executive Assistant, Player Personnel/Coaching
Adam Al-Khayyal Assistant Director, Pro Personnel
Sam DeLuca Pro Scout
Branden Francis Pro Scout
Shaun Herock National Scout
Charles Walls National Scout
Zach Ayers Area Scout
Colton Chapple Area Scout
Josh Cox Area Scout
Matt Donahoe Area Scout
Gerald McCully Area Scout
Jimmy Noel Area Scout
Max Paulus Area Scout
Dan Zegers Area Scout
Mike Cetta Director, Scouting Research
Zach Wigmore Scouting Research Coordinator
Joe Dever Scouting Assistant
Scott DiBenedetto Scouting Assistant
Riley Hecklinski Scouting Assistant
Shane Normandeau Scouting Assistant
John Nussman Scouting Assistant
Michael Romanella Scouting Assistant
Scott Skuteris Scouting Assistant
Rod Streater Scouting Assistant
Bengals
Duke Tobin Director of Player Personnel
Mike Potts Scouting Director (College)
Steven Radicevic Scouting Director (Pro)
Bill Tobin Personnel Executive
Andrew Johnson Scout
Christian Sarkisian Scout
Geoff Smith Scouting Technology Consultant
Debbie LaRocco Personnel Assistant
I dont know whether to laugh about this or be sad about this post.
Just think how many people were in the front office Pre-2003
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(05-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you wondering what in the hell this thread is supposed to mean then that's probably understandable. The point of this thead is simple; sometimes seeing is better than hearing.
This really puts into perspective just how much less this franchise invests into the quality of their team.
Which posting here changes nothing, posting here has no effect on the product on the field and posting here only serves to make people more cynical, angry and unhappy.
Well done.
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I'm sure all the other teams have their coaches involved in scouting too, but we know that the Bengals expect all their main coaches and coordinators to be very heavily involved in scouting.
The Bengals send their coaches to quite a bunch of Pro Days, 1:1 meets, Combine, Senior Bowl, etc.
So these coaches for the Bengals have to pull double duty in the offseason, and they don't really get to go scout during the regular season because they have their main job(s) to worry about. I would think the Bengals would want to have more scouts at the games, but maybe they feel that watching game film after the season is just as good as being at the games in-person.
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(05-11-2021, 02:28 PM)Stewy Wrote: Which posting here changes nothing, posting here has no effect on the product on the field and posting here only serves to make people more cynical, angry and unhappy.
Well done.
Dude get this BS out of here....my god.
So he posts something factual, it has merit, and is related to the front office operations of each team in the AFC North but yet it only serves to make people more cynical, angry and unhappy?
I'd rather hear/see someone post something has facts behind it than someone try and bullshit me to death.
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(05-11-2021, 02:28 PM)Stewy Wrote: Which posting here changes nothing, posting here has no effect on the product on the field and posting here only serves to make people more cynical, angry and unhappy.
Well done.
What a terrible post.
In case you hadn't checked, nothing we do or say on this forum has any effect in the product of the field. We're all here to talk about the team and the issues that surround it. I feel like this is noteworthy. Obviously others do as as well.
There is nothing worse than when people masquarade behind the idea that a talking point changes nothing and therefore shouldn't be discussed. When in reality they've let this fact slide out on the other 3,435,657 posts on this forum and are only drawing attention to it now because they're butthurt.
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