Sitting on our hands as usual

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(11-02-2024, 05:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think we win Sunday, if not I would be on the phone with TB and trade Tee for their 1st round pick.

If we win, we are still at most 2 games back from the WC so hopefully they will make a big move (1% chance) before the deadline.

Nobody is trading a 1st (or a 2nd or even a 3rd at this point) round pick for 8-9 games (depending on that team's bye week) of a currently injured Tee. He's probably missing this week, which would put him at missing 4 of the 9 games this year and put him on a 644 yard pace this season after a 656 yard 2023. He'd still be owed almost $11m this year, too.

Diontae Johnson was traded for a 5th, while having to give a 6th back.
Amari Cooper was traded for a 3rd and 7th, but having to give a 6th back.
Davante Adams was traded for a 3rd (with an extremely unlikely possibility of it becoming a 2nd) and isn't a rental.
DeAndre Hopkins was traded for a 5th (that could be a 4th if KC makes the SB).

At this point, largely because of the quad injury being his second and current injury of the year, he's likely going to be worth more as a future comp pick than the 5th round pick we'd get for him now. The time to trade him was during the offseason, preferably the 2022-2023 offseason when it was clear he was not going to be extended we could have gotten a 1st and 3rd, but the 2023-2024 offseason where we probably could have gotten a 2nd would have worked too.

[*bfine32*]

(11-02-2024, 05:43 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Nobody is trading a 1st (or a 2nd or even a 3rd at this point) round pick for 8-9 games (depending on that team's bye week) of a currently injured Tee. He's probably missing this week, which would put him at missing 4 of the 9 games this year and put him on a 644 yard pace this season after a 656 yard 2023. He'd still be owed almost $11m this year, too.

Diontae Johnson was traded for a 5th, while having to give a 6th back.
Amari Cooper was traded for a 3rd and 7th, but having to give a 6th back.
Davante Adams was traded for a 3rd (with an extremely unlikely possibility of it becoming a 2nd) and isn't a rental.
DeAndre Hopkins was traded for a 5th (that could be a 4th if KC makes the SB).

At this point, largely because of the quad injury being his second and current injury of the year, he's likely going to be worth more as a future comp pick than the 5th round pick we'd get for him now. The time to trade him was during the offseason, preferably the 2022-2023 offseason when it was clear he was not going to be extended we could have gotten a 1st and 3rd, but the 2023-2024 offseason where we probably could have gotten a 2nd would have worked too.

Johnson is the youngest on your list, at 28. He is also reported to be a poor presence in the locker room. When Cooper was Tee's age he was traded for a 1st. 

I could see a team scheduled to pick late in the draft giving up a second or third, at worst. 

IF we lose tomorrow I hope we find out for his sake and the Bengals. If we win, I hope we go shopping. 

[Essex Johnson]

(11-01-2024, 09:12 PM)ClarkHarris4Prez Wrote: As the Chiefs, the Bills and the Ravens all make trades to make their already great teams even better what do we do as we are on the verge of a team collapse? Absolute nothing. This is what makes it hard to root for this team. They don’t even try. Their drafting has been awful so why act like these 2nd-7th round picks are gold? It’s pathetic. Mike Brown is a pathetic human being. I hope fans stop renewing season tickets. They don’t deserve us.

Well one big difference between them and us is 7-0 6-2 5-3 vs 3-5, tell me what 3-5 teams are making moves, we probably should be sellers not buyers

[J24]

(11-02-2024, 06:30 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Well one big difference between them and us is 7-0 6-2 5-3 vs 3-5, tell me what 3-5 teams are making moves, we probably should be sellers not buyers

How many 3-5 teams have an MVP level QB?

[THE PISTONS]

NFL Trade Deadline news:
Surprise! The Bengals are making calls to find players.
This organization has only aquired two players via trade in 52 years, but they are now shopping.https://t.co/7qXsguExdA pic.twitter.com/P2k4QCl2N6

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) November 2, 2024

 

[*Nately120*]

(11-02-2024, 06:51 PM)J24 Wrote: How many 3-5 teams have an MVP level QB?

Oddly enough, the Texans went 4-12 the  last year Watson was a top tier QB. At least Burrow don't go scotched earth like him. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(11-02-2024, 05:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I think we win Sunday, if not I would be on the phone with TB and trade Tee for their 1st round pick.

If we win, we are still at most 2 games back from the WC so hopefully they will make a big move (1% chance) before the deadline.

They're currently 1 to 1 1/2 games out of #7. If Indy and LAC lose, they're a 1/2 game behind the Chargers.

[ERIC1]

(11-01-2024, 10:15 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I agree. It's not like we have a chance this year. We would have to win out. 1 guy is not going to fix the problem. However, I do understand the disappointment in doing nothing. This organization boils me sometimes. I wish the Brown family would just sell this team to someone who would keep it here. Someone who wants to win. Paul Brown would be sick knowing this franchise is not going ALL-IN to win every year.

So let's go there. PB, after passing, had a stadium named after him and the team ran by his siblings. They used the team as an investment only and are still doing so. They don't have the spirit of PB. Spoiled friggen kids who only wanted the money, not the victory. If these idiots would only realize that the richest teams in the league are those who try to win, it would be amazing. I mean, I almost bought into the Katie taking over the team and things would be different, until I heard the interview with Andrew Whitworth and he said how Katie and Troy was against bringing him back. MB wanted him. He played 1 more year and was done.

Troy and Katie are trash for this team. The daughters have done special things for us, but it's all eye and ear candy to keep us entertained. I'm sure when they take it over, it will be more of the same. 

Being a Bengals fan is hard. I could sure use some C.J. Uzomah to cheer me up right now. Hellova cheerleader.

you really should calm down..they have been to a Superbowl and 2 AFC conference championship games recently..who knows what would have happened last year if burrow was not hurt..and this year..we have had a rash of injuries..calling people trash is way too harsh

[ERIC1]

this team has some good players..whether it be a rash of injuries or something else..or a combination of the aforementioned. something is amiss thisyear yet
.anyone thinking that picking up a player is going to make a difference at this point in time..either way..is going to be disappointed

[*pally*]

she just posted this, it is not a copy of her earlier tweet

The Bengals are making calls to find players and still trying. This organization has only acquired two players via trade in 52 years, but they are shopping. They are focused on DL and corner, per sources.

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) November 2, 2024

We will see if the Bengals can make the move, as a GM who discussed a potential trade with them told me this morning, "they are very serious about adding. It's not just flirting. https://t.co/7qXsguExdA"

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) November 3, 2024

[*ochocincos*]

(11-01-2024, 09:12 PM)ClarkHarris4Prez Wrote: As the Chiefs, the Bills and the Ravens all make trades to make their already great teams even better what do we do as we are on the verge of a team collapse? Absolute nothing. This is what makes it hard to root for this team. They don’t even try. Their drafting has been awful so why act like these 2nd-7th round picks are gold? It’s pathetic. Mike Brown is a pathetic human being. I hope fans stop renewing season tickets. They don’t deserve us.

Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens all have 5+ wins.
They are clearly in contention for a division win and (deep) playoff run.
Their trades are to better their chances to get to the Super Bowl.
Bengals are 3-5 and no one can say with confidence they would even make the playoffs by adding a player.

I get wanting to make a trade to have a better chance, but Mike Brown and co. are definitely looking at it from a cost standpoint - If the team still doesn't make the playoffs or gets eliminated in the 1st round of the playoffs, is it worth losing draft pick(s) and the extra cost for the new player's salary?

The Bengals will wait to see how the Raiders game goes before deciding to be buyers, sellers, or more than likely just staying put like most years.
The last time they did a midseason trade was 2020 when Dunlap threw his tantrum about how he was used.

[*bfine32*]

(11-02-2024, 06:51 PM)J24 Wrote: How many 3-5 teams have an MVP level QB?

Rams
Cowboys
Jets
Browns

All have 3 wins or fewer, and have QBs who have won or finished high in the MVP voting. 

[Au165]

Feels like Chase Young and or Marshon Lattimore makes sense I wonder if they could secure both in a single deal for a 3rd and 6th

[Bengalbug]

I would imagine that whoever the bengals bring in would likely not only be to help this year, but to also be part of the plan looking ahead into the future. The roster is pretty bleak, through 8 games. I still think they have potential to turn it around, and getting some new energy in the bullding might just be what turns the ship around.

I would point to bears last year (before and after Montez sweat, and the ravens 2022, before and after R smith.)

[casear2727]

(11-02-2024, 07:48 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: you really should calm down..they have been to a Superbowl and 2 AFC conference championship games recently..who knows what would have happened last year if burrow was not hurt..and this year..we have had a rash of injuries..calling people trash is way too harsh

They are, and have been horrible.  See how they treated Whit.  Newbie fans that think that 2 years of lightning in a bottle make up for over 30 years of horrendous front office work are truly comical. 

[*Synric*]

(11-02-2024, 09:00 PM)pally Wrote: she just posted this, it is not a copy of her earlier tweet

The Bengals are making calls to find players and still trying. This organization has only acquired two players via trade in 52 years, but they are shopping. They are focused on DL and corner, per sources.

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) November 2, 2024

Duke and Lou out there trying to save their Jobs.

[TecmoBengals]

I'm okay with trades even with this team having a losing record since the draft isn't a full proof when Duke picks a player. His guys don't always immediately contribute to winning ball.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(11-03-2024, 09:03 AM)Synric Wrote: Duke and Lou out there trying to save their Jobs.

C’mon man, you know better than to think Duke’s job is actually in any danger.

[Sled21]

(11-03-2024, 01:02 AM)casear2727 Wrote: They are, and have been horrible.  See how they treated Whit.  Newbie fans that think that 2 years of lightning in a bottle make up for over 30 years of horrendous front office work are truly comical. 

I'm really sick of the "poor Whit" narrative. The offered him a one-year deal, which at Whit's age was the smart play. LA offered three, and Whit beat Father time more than others tend to do. He was an outlier. It was still the smart offer. 

[*Synric*]

(11-03-2024, 11:26 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: C’mon man, you know better than to think Duke’s job is actually in any danger.

Maybe... but these guys are safe until they aren't. 

We can point to terrible drafting that has led to many bad years since 2015 and the only 2 good season during that period is because the team was stocked with outside Free Agents.