It isn't our imaginations

[*bengalfan74*]

(01-25-2025, 10:46 PM)samhain Wrote: They need to deal with this shit on an in-game basis.  I absolutely despise seeing guys get fined mid-week for hits that weren't flagged during actual play.  I don't give a shit about the offending player or his money.  These guys are millionaires.  The fines are negligible.  I want the penalty yards and extended drives.  

The "oops we messed up" stuff is more annoyance than vindication.

X2 for me, it's just absurd how they've adopted this after game fine system. And it's mainly because the reffing on the field is a total joke way to often.

[BoomerFan]

I hate that the Chiefs get preferential treatment. And I hate the Chiefs fans (many of them bandwagoners) who defend it even more. It is like, you are looking right at an overt instance of holding by the Chiefs offensive line and suddenly there fans turn into legal experts who want to deep dive into what a rip move is. They seem like the same sort of people that would claim the didn't strike someone but rather that the victim ran their face into that person's fist. It is ridiculous.

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(01-26-2025, 04:03 PM)BoomerFan Wrote: I hate that the Chiefs get preferential treatment. And I hate the Chiefs fans (many of them bandwagoners) who defend it even more. It is like, you are looking right at an overt instance of holding by the Chiefs offensive line and suddenly there fans turn into legal experts who want to deep dive into what a rip move is. They seem like the same sort of people that would claim the didn't strike someone but rather that the victim ran their face into that person's fist. It is ridiculous.

I agree, but the same can be said of teams playing the Chiefs, complaining about every little slight, of holding penalty that is let go in every other game in the NFL.

Do the Chiefs get calls other teams do not?

Yes.

Do they get lambasted for the refs ignoring penalties that are ignored by the rest of NFK refs? 

Yes.

They do get favorable calls, like all the powerhouses in sports do. Like NJ with the Bulls, Brady with the Pats, and LeBron with whatever team he bandwagons onto. Favorites teams get preferential treatment, it is nothing new.

Fix the IOL, improve the defense, and keep the game out of the refs hands.

[Browns Town Bengal]

(01-23-2025, 01:27 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Never forget the time the Chiefs got 5 plays to get a first down. Good times.

Yeah...that was BS.  Thankfully it didn't result in any points I don't believe

[RunKijanaRun]

They (the refs) did it again today. Just enough.

[J24]

I blame our front office for the Chiefs three peat!

[NATI BENGALS]

Clutch spot by the refs on that 4th down to give the Chiefs the ball. Couldn't do it without ya!

[Nepa]

(01-26-2025, 11:56 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: They (the refs) did it again today. Just enough.

Yes, but Mahomes is also really clutch. 5 Super Bowls in 6 years? Only the Bengals stopped them?  That is remarkable.  Always drafting very late and yet consistently in the Super Bowl. Honestly, I feel lucky to be a fan who has been able to watch both Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. Just consistent excellence when it comes to the games that count. 

The Chiefs probably got a break with the spotting of a fourth-down try by Buffalo but it was close and the Chiefs somehow stopped that tush push a number of times in the game, including twice on two-point conversions. 

I feel no disappointment about Mahomes and Andy Reid going to yet another Super Bowl. Mahomes is a nice guy (and note his first words were to give praise to God) and the Chiefs have a very well-run organization. I wish the Bengals could emulate them.

[Sled21]

Well at least my Super Bowl Sunday just freed up....

[Nepa]

(01-27-2025, 12:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Well at least my Super Bowl Sunday just freed up....

An interesting side note is that the Bills traded the 10th pick to KC that allowed KC to draft Mahomes. I often think how the Bengals drafted John Ross one pick before Mahomes, but the Bills literally made the trade that brought KC Mahomes, who has been the Bills' playoff kryptonite.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-27-2025, 09:17 AM)Nepa Wrote: Yes, but Mahomes is also really clutch. 5 Super Bowls in 6 years? Only the Bengals stopped them?  That is remarkable.  Always drafting very late and yet consistently in the Super Bowl. Honestly, I feel lucky to be a fan who has been able to watch both Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. Just consistent excellence when it comes to the games that count. 

The Chiefs probably got a break with the spotting of a fourth-down try by Buffalo but it was close and the Chiefs somehow stopped that tush push a number of times in the game, including twice on two-point conversions. 

I feel no disappointment about Mahomes and Andy Reid going to yet another Super Bowl. Mahomes is a nice guy (and note his first words were to give praise to God) and the Chiefs have a very well-run organization. I wish the Bengals could emulate them.

Too much Chiefs love for me Nepa. Mahomes is good and is a good man I think, but I still don't like him and the refs helped him out again.

I cannot respect a team that gets so much help from the refs. The spot was terrible, didn't even try to put it in between the 2 refs spots. Went 
with the longer spot instead and pretty sure Allen got it anyways. Still, the Bills beat themselves by trying to run that tush push to the left side 
over and over again. You do that even to the Bengals D and they will eventually stop it. Too damn predictable ugh. 

Also, I bet the Bills win this game going away if they just hand the ball off to James Cook about 5 or more times, he was just gashing them and
they went away from it, reminded me of another play caller I know lol

Have to be an Eagles fan during the Super Bowl, first time ever.  

At least I know the Eagles will not go away from Saquon if he is running well.

[c766]

(01-27-2025, 02:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Too much Chiefs love for me Nepa. Mahomes is good and is a good man I think, but I still don't like him and the refs helped him out again.

I cannot respect a team that gets so much help from the refs. The spot was terrible, didn't even try to put it in between the 2 refs spots. Went 
with the longer spot instead and pretty sure Allen got it anyways. Still, the Bills beat themselves by trying to run that tush push to the left side 
over and over again. You do that even to the Bengals D and they will eventually stop it. Too damn predictable ugh. 

Also, I bet the Bills win this game going away if they just hand the ball off to James Cook about 5 or more times, he was just gashing them and
they went away from it, reminded me of another play caller I know lol

Have to be an Eagles fan during the Super Bowl, first time ever.  

At least I know the Eagles will not go away from Saquon if he is running well.

Kincaid had the 1st down on his reception, i thought that spot was worse than the 4th down sneak spot

[Nepa]

(01-27-2025, 02:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Too much Chiefs love for me Nepa. Mahomes is good and is a good man I think, but I still don't like him and the refs helped him out again.

I cannot respect a team that gets so much help from the refs. The spot was terrible, didn't even try to put it in between the 2 refs spots. Went 
with the longer spot instead and pretty sure Allen got it anyways. Still, the Bills beat themselves by trying to run that tush push to the left side 
over and over again. You do that even to the Bengals D and they will eventually stop it. Too damn predictable ugh. 

Also, I bet the Bills win this game going away if they just hand the ball off to James Cook about 5 or more times, he was just gashing them and
they went away from it, reminded me of another play caller I know lol

Have to be an Eagles fan during the Super Bowl, first time ever.  

At least I know the Eagles will not go away from Saquon if he is running well.

We need to figure out what the Chiefs changed in their defense to be able to stop the tush push. All year long the Bills executed it, with it being almost automatic: only 3 times out of 30 did it fail. But when it really counted, the tush push failed 3 of the 4 times. If the league is going to allow it, the Bengals need to figure it out, and KC figured something out. Of course, it helps to have a player like Chris Jones. He was completely disruptive last night.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-27-2025, 03:27 PM)c766 Wrote: Kincaid had the 1st down on his reception, i thought that spot was worse than the 4th down sneak spot

True, another terrible spot, like you said, might of been worse. Kincaid dropped that big 4th down catch too though. The Bills could of won it 
many times over, just dropped the ball, literally.

(01-27-2025, 03:37 PM)Nepa Wrote: We need to figure out what the Chiefs changed in their defense to be able to stop the tush push. All year long the Bills executed it, with it being almost automatic: only 3 times out of 30 did it fail. But when it really counted, the tush push failed 3 of the 4 times. If the league is going to allow it, the Bengals need to figure it out, and KC figured something out. Of course, it helps to have a player like Chris Jones. He was completely disruptive last night.

Well, when you run it always to the left side like that it is predictable and against the Chiefs? They do their homework and yes, Chris Jones is a stud.

The tush push of the Eagles is the hardest one to stop IMO. Hurts is so strong and just goes where the OL gets push, hard to predict where he goes.

If Hurts always went to the left side like Allen did it would be easier to stop even if it is still hard to stop.

Defenses are going to have to find a way to stop the tush push no doubt.

[Sled21]

(01-27-2025, 03:37 PM)Nepa Wrote: We need to figure out what the Chiefs changed in their defense to be able to stop the tush push. All year long the Bills executed it, with it being almost automatic: only 3 times out of 30 did it fail. But when it really counted, the tush push failed 3 of the 4 times. If the league is going to allow it, the Bengals need to figure it out, and KC figured something out. Of course, it helps to have a player like Chris Jones. He was completely disruptive last night.

No big secret, they looked at the tape and saw that Allen almost always goes over his left guard. They knew exactly where to stack the line and Buffalo was not smart enough to change it up and go right once in a while.

[Bengalbug]

(Yesterday, 09:27 AM)Sled21 Wrote: No big secret, they looked at the tape and saw that Allen almost always goes over his left guard. They knew exactly where to stack the line and Buffalo was not smart enough to change it up and go right once in a while.

The eagles almost always go over the center and there is little/no success in stopping it. You know it’s coming, you stack appropriately and it still fails.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 09:27 AM)Sled21 Wrote: No big secret, they looked at the tape and saw that Allen almost always goes over his left guard. They knew exactly where to stack the line and Buffalo was not smart enough to change it up and go right once in a while.

Spot on, if the Bills were smart they would of changed it up. Heck, James Cook was running all over them, give him the ball on 4th and short.

(Yesterday, 10:24 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: The eagles almost always go over the center and there is little/no success in stopping it.   You know it’s coming, you stack appropriately and it still fails.

True, but if you just go where the hole is it is much harder to stop. Going over Center you can get push on either side and follow the hole.

Regardless, Jalen Hurts squats like 700 pounds or something crazy and is just so strong it almost always works. Heck we stopped the Eagles
a couple time doing the tush push, just couldn't stop them when they did it 2 times in a row. No one has stopped it over and over.