Over 63 Mil to Rebuild With

[kevin]

Tee Higgins close to 22 mil,  BJ Hill 10 mil, Mike Hilton 6 mil, Trent Brown close to 5 mil, Davis-Gaither close to 3 mil. Gesicki 2.5 mil, Marco Wilson 2 mil
Then 15 players around 1 mil each.  
If the Bengals wanted them that much, they would be signed already.
The players on Defense especially, because Golden may have other plans on how to fix this Defense.  
The Bengals have finished out of play-offs 2 straight years, so they are in a rebuild mode, not a keep winning team mode.
Fans have favorites, I like Gesicki, but Bengals let TE's go every year.  They also really like this other TE that they tried to play more.

So the bad news some Fans will lose their Fan Favorites.  

The good news this not a year many top names leaving.  Once you get past Tee, it is not a list of big name players in the NFL.

The Bengals freeing up over 63 mil to use in a rebuild will help.  Now resign of Chase long term will cut into this 63 mil.  That right there probably takes it around 40 mil, which is still a good chunk of money to fix the Defense and other weak areas of this team.  

Of course the Bengals will resign some of these players as always, after they hit free agency and teams are not lining up for them.

I see this Free Agency as a Positive.  Dump over 63 mil, to do what needs done to get back in Play-Offs with Joe Burrow who is a winner.  The Offense is pretty much Zac Taylor and Golden should be OK on Defense.  Resign Chase long term and fill the gaps at other positions in Free Agency and Draft.  Maybe even resign Hendrickson to be here after 2025, maybe.  

Bengals will have the salary cap money to try to fix the defense, so that Burrow isn't expected to score 60 points a game.  The Chiefs let Hill go and kept winning, and it's a copy cat league.  Chiefs kept Mahomes to Kelce, Bengals keep Burrow to Chase, and you have Defense and such like Chiefs, you say good-bye to a Hill or Higgins, but Chiefs show that is how you keep winning.

GO BENGALS.....They could use the over 63 mil to get this team from losing back into the play-offs and Super Bowl hunt where they should be with Burrow to Chase. ....GO BENGALS

     

[Frank Booth]

more like 48 million when including Blackburn tax

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 07:25 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: more like 48 million when including Blackburn tax

Yeah, that's about what I've been seeing as well. Not sure where Kevin is getting his numbers from.

[NUGDUKWE]

I'm in the "pay tee his money camp". Goodberry just had a good point of can the Bengals better spend the Tee money this offseason in a way that would be more impactful? The chances are low that we could get player or players that would have the impact he can have for us. I also don't think we can compare teams to say what exactly is a winning formula. The style offense the Bengals run of let Burrow drop back and distribute the ball you need receivers. Sign Tee try and add a guard in free agency and then see if we can fix the defense thru the draft and maybe some other FAs. With the way Burrow and Co. are playing we are in a win now window.

[Frank Booth]

(9 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm in the "pay tee his money camp". Goodberry just had a good point of can the Bengals better spend the Tee money this offseason in a way that would be more impactful? The chances are low that we could get player or players that would have the impact he can have for us. I also don't think we can compare teams to say what exactly is a winning formula. The style offense the Bengals run of let Burrow drop back and distribute the ball you need receivers. Sign Tee try and add a guard in free agency and then see if we can fix the defense thru the draft and maybe some other FAs. With the way Burrow and Co. are playing we are in a win now window.

Goodberry follows analytics. Analytics say pass the ball

but honest question to you, does the success of the chiefs and bills with their lack of elite weaponry just go over your head?

even if the bengals dont sign Tee, they would still have Jamarr, which is better than any weapon KC or buffalo has. Which in theory should give the bengals the privlige to allocate more money to the rest of this terrible bengals roster

[NUGDUKWE]

(9 hours ago)Frank Booth Wrote: Goodberry follows analytics. Analytics say pass the ball

but honest question to you, does the success of the chiefs and bills with their lack of elite weaponry just go over your head?

even if the bengals dont sign Tee, they would still have Jamarr, which is better than any weapon KC or buffalo has. Which in theory should give the bengals the privlige to allocate more money to the rest of this terrible bengals roster

The absence of an elite weapon is the reason the Bills didn't beat the Chiefs in my opinion. I love Burrow and wouldn't trade him but he can't do what Allen does running for tough yards. Mahommes I would say is more mobile as well and while we beat them at the WR position I'd say they beat us in Coach, FO, DC and defensive players and probably OL play. So we can point at one aspect of they're team and ignore the rest but I don't feel like that's a winning formula. 


I agree in theory we could bring in multiple players that would have a bigger impact on the winning than resigning Tee. But the likelihood of that seems to be very low. You have to find the right players and be able to sign them if you don't like doing contracts like the rest of the NFL that is tougher all while creating a giant hole that needs to be filled with atleast a day 2 pick. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(8 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: The absence of an elite weapon is the reason the Bills didn't beat the Chiefs in my opinion.

And we'll have that in Chase.

[pulses]

(Yesterday, 04:38 PM)kevin Wrote: Tee Higgins close to 22 mil,  BJ Hill 10 mil, Mike Hilton 6 mil, Trent Brown close to 5 mil, Davis-Gaither close to 3 mil. Gesicki 2.5 mil, Marco Wilson 2 mil
Then 15 players around 1 mil each.  
If the Bengals wanted them that much, they would be signed already.
The players on Defense especially, because Golden may have other plans on how to fix this Defense.  
The Bengals have finished out of play-offs 2 straight years, so they are in a rebuild mode, not a keep winning team mode.
Fans have favorites, I like Gesicki, but Bengals let TE's go every year.  They also really like this other TE that they tried to play more.

So the bad news some Fans will lose their Fan Favorites.  

The good news this not a year many top names leaving.  Once you get past Tee, it is not a list of big name players in the NFL.

The Bengals freeing up over 63 mil to use in a rebuild will help.  Now resign of Chase long term will cut into this 63 mil.  That right there probably takes it around 40 mil, which is still a good chunk of money to fix the Defense and other weak areas of this team.  

Of course the Bengals will resign some of these players as always, after they hit free agency and teams are not lining up for them.

I see this Free Agency as a Positive.  Dump over 63 mil, to do what needs done to get back in Play-Offs with Joe Burrow who is a winner.  The Offense is pretty much Zac Taylor and Golden should be OK on Defense.  Resign Chase long term and fill the gaps at other positions in Free Agency and Draft.  Maybe even resign Hendrickson to be here after 2025, maybe.  

Bengals will have the salary cap money to try to fix the defense, so that Burrow isn't expected to score 60 points a game.  The Chiefs let Hill go and kept winning, and it's a copy cat league.  Chiefs kept Mahomes to Kelce, Bengals keep Burrow to Chase, and you have Defense and such like Chiefs, you say good-bye to a Hill or Higgins, but Chiefs show that is how you keep winning.

GO BENGALS.....They could use the over 63 mil to get this team from losing back into the play-offs and Super Bowl hunt where they should be with Burrow to Chase. ....GO BENGALS

     

Higgins won't sign for that more like 28 mill. We won't pay him tho he is gone IMO......same for BJ Hill and Hilton I think they're both gone as well. Time to play these young high draft picks and see what they got....Hilton is a liability in coverage. and Trent Brown won't be back either smh.  Gesicki is the top receiving TE on the market you're not gonna sniff him at 2.5

[Soonerpeace]

(7 hours ago)pulses Wrote: Higgins won't sign for that more like 28 mill. We won't pay him tho he is gone IMO......same for BJ Hill and Hilton I think they're both gone as well. Time to play these young high draft picks and see what they got....Hilton is a liability in coverage. and Trent Brown won't be back either smh.  Gesicki is the top receiving TE on the market you're not gonna sniff him at 2.5

Agree with this. Gesicki for sure

[kevin]

(7 hours ago)pulses Wrote: Higgins won't sign for that more like 28 mill. We won't pay him tho he is gone IMO......same for BJ Hill and Hilton I think they're both gone as well. Time to play these young high draft picks and see what they got....Hilton is a liability in coverage. and Trent Brown won't be back either smh.  Gesicki is the top receiving TE on the market you're not gonna sniff him at 2.5

I'm going on what they have been paid, not what they might get paid.  This is where I'm getting my figures.  What they have been getting paid.  Add it all up, and Bengals have 63 million going free agent as of today.  No, this does not include a Blackburn tax, this is straight payroll.  Has nothing to do with Blackburn.  63 million hitting free agency for Bengals as of today.  

I used overthecap.com,  which was just Bengal free agent salaries, it didn't include one thing about Blackburn. This is not hypothetical what they might get paid math.  This is what they have been getting paid by Bengals up to now math.  If none of the Free Agents gets kept, it adds up in the ballpark of 63 million dollars per this site that is not showing anything called a Blackburn tax, just straight up payroll. 

It is a copy cat league.  Chiefs have proved you can let go of a Hill, and keep winning Super Bowls.  Chiefs kept Mahomes to Kelce and spent money on other areas of the team.  Bengals could keep Burrow to Chase and do the same.  I must point out the Bengals have failed to make the play-offs 2 seasons in a row with Chase and Higgins.  The idea that the Bengals are unbeatable with them both just isn't true, the Bengals are getting beat with both of them.  It's a copy cat league, be like the Chiefs, let him go like Hill, and put some money into the defense. The Chiefs are showing how to go Super Bowl every year, and they aren't doing by putting all their money into just Wide Receivers.  They do not expect Mahomes to score 60 points a game, and neither should Bengals expect Burrow to score 60 points a game, so rebuild The Defense. 

63 million could go a long way in signing Chase long term to team with Burrow long term,  rebuild the Defense and maybe even resign Hendrickson for 2026 also.  Chase and Hendrickson are very dominate, and it might be a good move to keep both of them in 2026. 

PS :  I had to go to internet to to to make some sense out of what some of you called a Blackburn Tax.  I saw reports of Bengals and Stadium and city issues.  None of that has anything to do with NFL Salary Cap.   Front Office and Stadium expenses has nothing to do with NFL Player Team Salary Cap.  

GO BENGALS