Happy Tampering Day

[RunKijanaRun]

At what point is it not reactionary to acknowledge this is not going well?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2025, 07:29 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: At what point is it not reactionary to acknowledge this is not going well?

When we don't get a Guard at all, that is when.

If we don't get a Guard I will be right with yah. It isn't over yet.

[BengalFanInNJ]

(03-12-2025, 06:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That is spendy for a 35 year old Zeit.

$9MM for a high-caliber Guard is cheap. If we are looking for starters at $4-$5MM a year then we are screwed.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2025, 07:33 PM)BengalFanInNJ Wrote: $9MM for a high-caliber Guard is cheap. If we are looking for starters at $4-$5MM a year then we are screwed.

Give me Teven Jenkins for 12-15 mil per year and Scherff for 7 mil per year and I am happy.

[NUGDUKWE]

(03-12-2025, 07:23 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Come on, Zeit was maybe the Guard I thought the least likely and the one I wanted the least. We can do better. Step away from the ledge.

I'm on the ledge and I can't even deny it. I really want to guards now that pass rush has all but dried up. I think that price was extremely reasonable to sign him and get another guy in here. We desperately need pass rush and playmakers on defense. If we sign a guard that doesn't reduce the big need in the draft and it just seems that it will be too much to fill in the draft.

[samhain]

(03-12-2025, 07:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: When we don't get a Guard at all, that is when.

If we don't get a Guard I will be right with yah. It isn't over yet.

I mean, we got a guard.  When we are just wanting a player at a position, it's a good sign that things aren't going great.

[NUGDUKWE]

(03-12-2025, 07:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Give me Teven Jenkins for 12-15 mil per year and Scherff for 7 mil per year and I am happy.

Sign these two guys and I will be happy. I'm just not overly optimistic at the moment. 

[NUGDUKWE]

(03-12-2025, 07:33 PM)BengalFanInNJ Wrote: $9MM for a high-caliber Guard is cheap. If we are looking for starters at $4-$5MM a year then we are screwed.

I'm right there with you. 9mil for his level of play is a steal. As quiet as it's been I was just waiting for one of these deals to come thru and see how badly we messing up. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2025, 07:39 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I'm on the ledge and I can't even deny it. I really want to guards now that pass rush has all but dried up. I think that price was extremely reasonable to sign him and get another guy in here. We desperately need pass rush and playmakers on defense. If we sign a guard that doesn't reduce the big need in the draft and it just seems that it will be too much to fill in the draft.

2 Guards is what I want as well. Cannot have Volson and Ford starting. Zeit was paid 6 mil by the Lions last year and he is one year older.

Don't know why his price went up...

Oh yeah, desperation. There are still younger Guards that are better out there and we have been talking to one in Teven Jenkins and cuts 
will happen and we can add another Guard after or even sooner. Too early to be on any ledge IMO.

(03-12-2025, 07:39 PM)samhain Wrote: I mean, we got a guard.  When we are just wanting a player at a position, it's a good sign that things aren't going great.

Who? Cody Ford? He is a good backup but he is no starter. We can say things aren't going great if we don't get a starting Guard or more
ideally 2 starting Guards. There is time and Guards out there to be had.

(03-12-2025, 07:40 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Sign these two guys and I will be happy. I'm just not overly optimistic at the moment. 

Cool. We will see.

[CottonHill]

SIGN CJ MOSLEY NOW. PLEASE He’d immediately be a top 5 player on this team and he won’t cost a lot.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-12-2025, 07:54 PM)CottonHill Wrote: SIGN CJ MOSLEY NOW. PLEASE He’d immediately be a top 5 player on this team and he won’t cost a lot.

I think that Mosely is washed. Too many nagging injuries from over the years caught up with him.  On another note, are we really at the point where we're just begging the team to make a move, any move, weather it's a smart move or not? I mean spending money just for the sake of it isn't generally thought of as wise.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2025, 07:58 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I think that Mosely is washed. Too many nagging injuries from over the years caught up with him.  On another note, are we really at the point where we're just begging the team to make a move, any move, weather it's a smart move or not? I mean spending money just for the sake of it isn't generally thought of as wise.

Completely agree. Just make the right move is all I am asking. Mosely is not the right move IMO.

Teven Jenkins should be.

[NUGDUKWE]

(03-12-2025, 07:53 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: 2 Guards is what I want as well. Cannot have Volson and Ford starting. Zeit was paid 6 mil by the Lions last year and he is one year older.

I think he was the highest graded RG remaining atleast that has maintained the level of play for as long as he has. I'm sure his # went up because the market and cap increased. Bottom line after seeing his # I would much rather having signed him for that # than have no one and see him on another team. What happens if we wait all this time talking to Tevin and he signs somewhere else? 

[SunsetBengal]

(03-12-2025, 08:05 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Completely agree. Just make the right move is all I am asking. Mosely is not the right move IMO.

Teven Jenkins should be.

I can't agree more. I've been low key hoping that he would be our "big" outside add this season. Let's hope that Katie and her squad is ready to play hardball for the guy we need. Then, if there is budget for Brandon Scherff, he would also be a great short term add.

[Luvnit2]

(03-12-2025, 08:14 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I think he was the highest graded RG remaining atleast that has maintained the level of play for as long as he has. I'm sure his # went up because the market and cap increased. Bottom line after seeing his # I would much rather having signed him for that # than have no one and see him on another team. What happens if we wait all this time talking to Tevin and he signs somewhere else? 

I thought the Bengals would be all over a much better guard or 2 in free agency. I wanted Zeitler as a stop gap (then draft his replacement in round 1) for RG. Then sign Jenkins or Becton for LG. 

Becton played LG, but Sherff is a RG.

I get the anxiety as each hour passes, it seems FO is in slow motion.

The BS we need to know what we are doing with Chase and Tee is just that, BS. They have the money to fill a huge need. I have no idea why they are being passive to get it done. Get guys to protect the franchise already.

[Luvnit2]

(03-12-2025, 08:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I can't agree more. I've been low key hoping that he would be our "big" outside add this season. Let's hope that Katie and her squad is ready to play hardball for the guy we need. Then, if there is budget for Brandon Scherff, he would also be a great short term add.

^^^^
This times 1000

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-12-2025, 08:14 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I think he was the highest graded RG remaining atleast that has maintained the level of play for as long as he has. I'm sure his # went up because the market and cap increased. Bottom line after seeing his # I would much rather having signed him for that # than have no one and see him on another team. What happens if we wait all this time talking to Tevin and he signs somewhere else? 

Zeit also played next to the best Center in football in Frank Ragnow IMO. I was not against signing Zeit, I just remember his wife didn't like 
Cincy and our team doesn't sign older FA's often so I thought he was unlikely so I am not sore about it at all. Would much rather have Teven
Jenkins and a cheaper Scherff.

We will see how it plays out. If Teven signs somewhere else, I will be a bit more negative once it truly is time. But it isn't over yet.

(03-12-2025, 08:16 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I can't agree more. I've been low key hoping that he would be our "big" outside add this season. Let's hope that Katie and her squad is ready to play hardball for the guy we need. Then, if there is budget for Brandon Scherff, he would also be a great short term add.

Yes sir Sunset. Teven and Brandon would instantly make our OL so much better and we would have good depth for once in Cody Ford.

[CottonHill]

(03-12-2025, 07:58 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I think that Mosely is washed. Too many nagging injuries from over the years caught up with him.  On another note, are we really at the point where we're just begging the team to make a move, any move, weather it's a smart move or not? I mean spending money just for the sake of it isn't generally thought of as wise.

He is definitely not in his prime but I promise you guys, he’d be the 2nd beat player on this defense if Hendrickson gets traded.
But you guys are the same ones who thought Geno Stone and Sheldon Rankins were great signings.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-12-2025, 07:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Give me Teven Jenkins for 12-15 mil per year and Scherff for 7 mil per year and I am happy.

I doubt they have the cap space for that.

[THE PISTONS]

(03-12-2025, 07:58 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I think that Mosely is washed. Too many nagging injuries from over the years caught up with him.  On another note, are we really at the point where we're just begging the team to make a move, any move, weather it's a smart move or not? I mean spending money just for the sake of it isn't generally thought of as wise.

They're kind of bad injuries too.