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BREAKING: Bengals give Trey Hendrickson permission to be traded
(03-13-2025, 01:48 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: So best case would have been no team willing to pay him that much...but alas a bunch were.

If a team wants Trey, they meet Bengals demands. Why would Bengals trade away the sack leader in 2024 for peanuts to help another team win and make Trey happy? Sometimes in business tough decisions have to be made. But to me this decision for the Bengals is simple, collect a team's ransom or have Trey pay on the existing deal. Or offer him a better deal, but maybe not the 30+ million in wants.

Trey's options are play for the 15.8 million in 2025 or attempt to get more, but none of us were ever paid our worrth (to us employer was always srewing us). Or Trey can find a. team willing to give the Bengals their asking price and give him the raise he desires.

Trey has options, but the team has control.
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(03-13-2025, 02:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: If a team wants Trey, they meet Bengals demands. Why would Bengals trade away the sack leader in 2024 for peanuts to help another team win and make Trey happy? Sometimes in business tough decisions have to be made. But to me this decision for the Bengals is simple, collect a team's ransom or have Trey pay on the existing deal. Or offer him a better deal, but maybe not the 30+ million in wants.

Trey's options are play for the 15.8 million in 2025 or attempt to get more, but none of us were ever paid our worrth (to us employer was always srewing us). Or Trey can find a. team willing to give the Bengals their asking price and give him the raise he desires.

Trey has options, but the team has control.

No team is going to give a 1st and a good player for a 31 year old DE that they then have to pay a huge contract to.

With a late 1st, you can get a DE that makes much less than Trey is asking for. That player likely won't get you 10 sacks though.

At his current salary, Trey is going to hold out all training camp at minimum. And maybe part of the season.

Jadaveon Clowney is still out there.
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(03-13-2025, 02:18 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: No team is going to give a 1st and a good player for a 31 year old DE that they then have to pay a huge contract to.

With a late 1st, you can get a DE that makes much less than Trey is asking for. That player likely won't get you 10 sacks though.

At his current salary, Trey is going to hold out all training camp at minimum. And maybe part of the season.

Jadaveon Clowney is still out there.

That is the point and the reason they let Trey test the trade waters. He will come back and sign whatever they offered pretty sure.

He isn't going to sit out unless he just outright retires. His age makes it a now or never deal for him.
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(03-13-2025, 02:37 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: That is the point and the reason they let Trey test the trade waters. He will come back and sign whatever they offered pretty sure.

He isn't going to sit out unless he just outright retires. His age makes it a now or never deal for him.

I would add Trey would be an idiot to do anything showing he is disgruntled. He will be a fre agent on 2026 unless team extends him, a 32 year old free agent seeking one last big deal.
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(03-13-2025, 02:34 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: You could whine and cry all you like, but it does not change Trey is under contract and is 31 years old. The first fine for missing any part of organized activities I believe is 25,000 day 1, 38,000 day 2nd then 50,000 per day the rest of the way.

Fines 
Week 1 would be 313,000.
Week 2 would be 350,000 or more than Trey's 17 game weekly pay.

Trey will not hold out and get fined to prove a point, it is too costly. In addition to the fines, no show starting game 1 = 15,800 million divided by 17 in additional lost income.
Trey will do the same thing we would do when we ask for a raise and the boss denies our request. We show up to work and attempt to do a great job so next time we get the raise.

I want the Bengals to give Trey a raise. My hole polint is from a FO perspective he is under contract and far down the pecking order. The Bengals need to lock up Chase, decide on whether to extend Tee or trade him, find at least 1 OG and 1 DL in free agency. Last is Trey's request for a new contract. The team will have a better idea of their finaancial position after all of the moves I mentioned. So, no team should not bee n urgency mode to extend trey because he asked.

There's no fines for holding-in. Or from having a soft tissue injury on Day 1 of mandatory camp.
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So bengals having a crazy asking price for their star? Well no shit.

Brian Burns got traded last year after an 8 sack season and was franchise tagged. The panthers got #39 and moved up in the 5th swapping places and a 5th for 2025 draft. He has had double digit sacks once in his career. And they had to give him a giant contract.

They are going to be stubborn and not give him away for cheap. And I don’t blame them.
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(03-13-2025, 06:53 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: So bengals having a crazy asking price for their star? Well no shit.

Brian Burns got traded last year after an 8 sack season and was franchise tagged. The panthers got #39 and moved up in the 5th swapping places and a 5th for 2025 draft. He has had double digit sacks once in his career. And they had to give him a giant contract.

They are going to be stubborn and not give him away for cheap.  And I don’t blame them.

If only Trey's agent hadn't shot off his mouth about being confident that he was able to get whatever the Bengals were looking for...
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This Trey situation can go up til the draft. There’s no reason to give him away. Tweak his deal and give him 32 for this year (he’s already in the books cap wise so it won’t be as bad of a hit) and a promise not to tag him next offseason to get him to show up for training camp.
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(03-13-2025, 06:59 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If only Trey's agent hadn't shot off his mouth about being confident that he was able to get whatever the Bengals were looking for...

His agent must be a dumbass. First last year asking for an extension or trade right before the Draft when Trey couldn't be extended
and now doing what you say here.
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(03-13-2025, 06:59 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If only Trey's agent hadn't shot off his mouth about being confident that he was able to get whatever the Bengals were looking for...

What would have changed if he didn't?

The Bengals would still be asking for a ton, valuing him far more than they're willing to pay him, and he'd still want traded or paid. Nothing would be different.

Tee's agent hasn't said shit and he's still in the exact same situation of the Bengals having higher demands for a player than they're willing to pay them.
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(03-13-2025, 07:05 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: What would have changed if he didn't?

The Bengals would still be asking for a ton, valuing him far more than they're willing to pay him, and he'd still want traded or paid. Nothing would be different.

Tee's agent hasn't said shit and he's still in the exact same situation of the Bengals having higher demands for a player than they're willing to pay them.

Suppose the Bengals had in mind giving him a modest $10M bonus for outplaying his contract, maybe the agent said "F that, allow him to seek a trade, I can get him what he wants and you what you want".
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(03-13-2025, 07:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Suppose the Bengals had in mind giving him a modest $10M bonus for outplaying his contract, maybe the agent said "F that, allow him to seek a trade, I can get him what he wants and you what you want".

Except he'd look right over at Tee getting tagged twice in a row and know if he accepted that and played well for them, they'd just tag him in 2026 and again in 2027, stuck on undervalue 1-year deals until was heading into his age 34 season when nobody would give him a large or long term deal. If he accepted that and didn't play well or got badly hurt he'd lose tens of millions of dollars.

If Hendrickson doesn't get a final longterm deal this offseason, he knows he almost certainly never will.
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(03-13-2025, 07:17 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Except he'd look right over at Tee getting tagged twice in a row and know if he accepted that and played well for them, they'd just tag him in 2026 and again in 2027, stuck on undervalue 1-year deals until was heading into his age 34 season when nobody would give him a large or long term deal. If he accepted that and didn't play well or got badly hurt he'd lose tens of millions of dollars.

If Hendrickson doesn't get a final longterm deal this offseason, he knows he almost certainly never will.

Honestly, he probably has 1 to 3 peak seasons left. Giving him like a 3 year $100 million deal has some risk.
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(03-13-2025, 07:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Honestly, he probably has 1 to 3 peak seasons left. Giving him like a 3 year $100 million deal has some risk.

It's a risk that most teams would take in a heartbeat if they could.
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(03-13-2025, 07:17 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Except he'd look right over at Tee getting tagged twice in a row and know if he accepted that and played well for them, they'd just tag him in 2026 and again in 2027, stuck on undervalue 1-year deals until was heading into his age 34 season when nobody would give him a large or long term deal. If he accepted that and didn't play well or got badly hurt he'd lose tens of millions of dollars.

If Hendrickson doesn't get a final longterm deal this offseason, he knows he almost certainly never will.

He's already at the age where "falling off the cliff" becomes an actual concern. He should realize that the Bengals aren't going to give him away for nothing substantial in return. But alas, our QB has stated his wishes to not only keep his crown jewel of a receiver in Chase, but also his often injured running mate in Higgins. Tough to cover four top tier contracts, let alone 3 of them in the same offseason. However, the Bengals did it to themselves by not already being strong and decisive.
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(03-13-2025, 07:26 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: He's already at the age where "falling off the cliff" becomes an actual concern. He should realize that the Bengals aren't going to give him away for nothing substantial in return. But alas, our QB has stated his wishes to not only keep his crown jewel of a receiver in Chase, but also his often injured running mate in Higgins. Tough to cover four top tier contracts, let alone 3 of them in the same offseason. However, the Bengals did it to themselves by not already being strong and decisive.

If they'd have done 1 or 2 last year, like they should have (Chase certainly), we'd be in a much better position. And we had the cash to do it last year, easy.
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(03-13-2025, 02:56 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: There's no fines for holding-in. Or from having a soft tissue injury on Day 1 of mandatory camp.

You may want to to look it up. I did and provided it either in this thread or another.

Yes, he can fake injury and let the NFL know he can't be trusted.
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(03-13-2025, 07:24 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: It's a risk that most teams would take in a heartbeat if they could.

They can, but need to pony up a huge draft haul so Bengals win too.
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(03-13-2025, 07:36 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: If they'd have done 1 or 2 last year, like they should have (Chase certainly), we'd be in a much better position. And we had the cash to do it last year, easy.

Makes no sense. If they hd the cash year, ten they have that cash + any cash made in 2024 also. Their cash does not disappear.
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(03-13-2025, 07:37 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: You may want to to look it up. I did and provided it either in this thread or another.

Yes, he can fake injury and let the NFL know he can't be trusted.

Would that really be the case? I mean the sports reporting world already gives the Bengals the reputation as "cheap", so in the sports world court of public opinion, most would simply say that the Bengals were reaping what they sowed.
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