Welcome back Cam Sample

[*ochocincos*]

Guy has been good in 2021-2023 for about a couple sacks and around 20 total pressures each season.
He's about the same contributions as Myles Murphy, pressures and snaps wise.

If people don't think Murphy is anything worthwhile, they shouldn't think Sample is either.

To me, Sample is competing with Johnson for final DE spot, as I have to think Bengals are very, very likely drafting a DE early in the draft.

[Sled21]

(10 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Guy has been good in 2021-2023 for about a couple sacks and around 20 total pressures each season.
He's about the same contributions as Myles Murphy, pressures and snaps wise.

If people don't think Murphy is anything worthwhile, they shouldn't think Sample is either.

To me, Sample is competing with Johnson for final DE spot, as I have to think Bengals are very, very likely drafting a DE early in the draft.

The difference I see, is that following Cam's time here he seemed to have improved each year whereas I haven't seen much improvement from Murphy at all. He looks the same on his last play as he did on his first.

[*ochocincos*]

(8 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: The difference I see, is that following Cam's time here he seemed to have improved each year whereas I haven't seen much improvement from Murphy at all. He looks the same on his last play as he did on his first.

Just off the eye test, or....?

I ask because his first two years in the league were about the same, production wise.
2021 - 310 snaps for 1.5 sacks and 16 total pressures
2022 - 411 snaps for 2.0 sacks and 16 total pressures

It wasn't until his 3rd season he boosted his pressures (2023 - 375 snaps for 1.5 sacks and 22 total pressures).

Murphy hasn't played a 3rd season yet, so we can just compare their first two years:
Murphy 2023 - 304 snaps for 3.0 sacks and 15 total pressures
Murphy 2024 - 353 snaps for 0 sacks and 20 total pressures

So Murphy fewer snaps played, with 1.5 sack less but 3 total pressures more compared to Sample's first two years.

Also, if you actually are able to remember specific backup players in games from 2-3 years ago to 100% recall if they improved over time or not, I give props to you for having such a good memory.
I don't watch the games that closely or watch reruns to analyze the players that closely, especially those who had little impact on the team those years.