Happy Tampering Day

[Luvnit2]

(7 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: Risner has ties to our passing game coordinator. One of the reasons I thought maybe they'd sign him last offseason.

Just a FYI. on Risner. Does the contract dictate good or does his past performance? His numbers are far better than Cappa, Volson and Ford.

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/vikings/2025/02/24/2025-nfl-free-agency-projected-value-of-dalton-risners-contract/80839071007/

Risner is an above-average pass blocker, receiving a 76.2 grade from PFF last year. However, he's a below-average run blocker, getting a 57.4 grade from them in 2024.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10 hours ago)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: Scherff makes a lot of sense as a bridge candidate. Draft a couple of young guards and have him mentor them.

Guard is the type of position where you can find good starters in the 4th or 5th. However the chances of them being good starters from week 1 are low. Giving them half a season, a year as a back-up is a much better way to go.

I think this has been a big part of the Bengals’ interior problems. Players like Jordan, Volson were chucked in as soon as they showed any promise. This didn’t set them up for long term success.

ps At the moment I think their best O-line will be with Karras at G and Matt Lee at C.

Good points. Scherff would be a good bridge candidate as you say and Matt Lee at Center might be in the cards while moving Ted to LG.

Makes me feel a little better about not getting 2 Guards. Just cannot have Volson or Ford starting, period.

[RunKijanaRun]

(6 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Give us your list of good choices. Does draft count?

I am not the one in panic mode. I see starting guards with pick #17 in the draft. You know, same thing KC did when they drafted 5th round guard Trey Smith.

You not panicking should provide comfort or relief to absolutely no one. And I’m not panicking. I’ve been thru this w/the bungles more times than I care to count. It’s more of a sad lament. And it’s causing me to make a decision as to whether or not continuing to ride this train is worthwhile. They have a bigger opportunity to win a SB now than they ever have before, yet they’re content to waste our stars prime years with an abundance of frugality, incompetence and passivity.

As to which ones would be considered “good,” I’d be fine with Scherff and possibly Risner. Far from great but both would be upgrades to our current fixtures.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 07:22 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Agree that the defensive rebuild was mostly going to be via the draft. I know most do not view it thisxway, but we have signed 4 defensive FAs, 3 9f whom are DL: Hill, Ossai, & Slaton. Plus Burks to replace ADG as LB3. We spent $24 mil on the d-line. 

Hill was a top 5 FA DT everywhere I looked. Gesicki a top 3 TE. ESPN & NFL grade Slaton as a top 3 (or top) run stopper in the league. Burks started the Eagles SB run and balled out and graded 80+ at PFF, regular and post season. 

Now, we have totally whiffed on Big 3 extensions and a Burrow extension so far. And on guards. If we'd have gotted most/all of that done, we'd had had more ammo to play in the deeper end of the pool on D in FA. And do more than bring back Gesicki & Perine on O. 

But Jenkins & Scherff are still out there. Trey, Tee, and Chase are still in stripes. Joe is still willing to restructure. It looks as if 25 or so of the top 100 FA's are still out there. There will be more cuts of quality players. This week and post draft. 

I give us a firm D atm, but if we land Jenkins it creeps up towards C. Jenkins + Scherff would be pushing C+/B. 

That getting some Big 3/Joe B re done and making another move or two with the $$ is B+ to A territory.

Nice breakdown Ike. Agree that we can still make the moves to salvage this Offseason. The Draft will be Defensive heavy as that is the
strength of the Draft and our needs with a new Defensive staff. Bring in a Guard, extend our guys and it isn't so bad.

[*pally*]

oops

BREAKING: #Bills DE Michael Hoecht and DT Larry Ogunjobi—both signed this week—have been suspended six games for violating the NFL’s PED policy, per GM Brandon Beane.

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 14, 2025

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(2 hours ago)pally Wrote: oops

BREAKING: #Bills DE Michael Hoecht and DT Larry Ogunjobi—both signed this week—have been suspended six games for violating the NFL’s PED policy, per GM Brandon Beane.

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 14, 2025

Glad we didn't bring in Larry O after this.

Plus BJ Hill significantly outplayed him after Larry O left here. We got the much better DT.

[Luvnit2]

(2 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Glad we didn't bring in Larry O after this.

Plus BJ Hill significantly outplayed him after Larry O left here. We got the much better DT.

I just saw this info. Does that mean these 2 add ons for the Bills may lose strength in 2025 since they were juicing?

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(2 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I just saw this info. Does that mean these 2 add ons for the Bills may lose strength in 2025 since they were juicing?

Yep. Bad deal for the Bills.

[jj22]

Bills had to know (hopefully) but that is comedy given I'm sure their fans didn't, and if it was the Bengals we'd be all over the FO for this.

[*Nately120*]

(2 hours ago)pally Wrote: oops

BREAKING: #Bills DE Michael Hoecht and DT Larry Ogunjobi—both signed this week—have been suspended six games for violating the NFL’s PED policy, per GM Brandon Beane.

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 14, 2025

Something something AFC rigged for the Chiefs.

[Nepa]

(2 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: Bills had to know (hopefully) but that is comedy given I'm sure their fans didn't, and if it was the Bengals we'd be all over the FO for this.

Bills knew about both. Ogunjobi they found out only after they came to a financial agreement, but before he signed, and they decided to go ahead with the signing anyway because of the dearth of DTs left in free agency. Hoecht they knew about before free agency.