Trey Hendrickson Update

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 08:54 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: More than anything I was surprised we let Cappa go and didn't bring in someone we thought would atleast be the equal of the player Cappa was when he got here. I get he fell off with injuries but the bar should be higher than beating the poor play that got us to release him. Then we bring in Patrick who has not only been in more of a backup role but also struggled with injuries coming off an injury and everyone is fine penciling him in as the starter. Im not asking for them to go to the moon and back but maybe a bit more than just above the bare minimum. 

So you wanted to give a roster spot to the worst starting OG in the NFL??????????????????

Sorry makes no sense and if he was the one they kept you would be screaming to the rooftops.

The Bengals have not darfted OL well for a long time, but it appears Mims may change that and Fairchild may as well. Many teams start mid round OL as rookies. As for Patrick, no I am not sold he will be great, but like I said it would be very hard to be worse than Cappa was in 2024 in both run and pass blocking.

[Soonerpeace]

(Yesterday, 08:54 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: More than anything I was surprised we let Cappa go and didn't bring in someone we thought would atleast be the equal of the player Cappa was when he got here. I get he fell off with injuries but the bar should be higher than beating the poor play that got us to release him. Then we bring in Patrick who has not only been in more of a backup role but also struggled with injuries coming off an injury and everyone is fine penciling him in as the starter. Im not asking for them to go to the moon and back but maybe a bit more than just above the bare minimum. 

Patrick had 562 snaps in 2024 and missed a few games. He had 953 in 2023. In his last 1642 passing snaps 4 sacks. He’s no backup. He’s played 2751 snaps the last 4 years. O-L guys get hurt look at our team. We have little exposure with him. I agree he was not as good as I hoped but he protects well.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(Yesterday, 09:16 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Patrick had 562 snaps in 2024 and missed a few games. He had 953 in 2023. In his last 1642 passing snaps 4 sacks. He’s no backup. He’s played 2751 snaps the last 4 years. O-L guys get hurt look at our team. We have little exposure with him. I agree he was not as good as I hoped but he protects well.

He’s absolutely a backup. Starting caliber guards make more than $2.1M a year. You can throw out snap count numbers for a guy like Volson, too. Doesnt mean he’s starter quality either.

[Soonerpeace]

(Yesterday, 09:37 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He’s absolutely a backup. Starting caliber guards make more than $2.1M a year. You can throw out snap count numbers for a guy like Volson, too. Doesnt mean he’s starter quality either.

If you mean he’s not as good as you want or that we need then that’s different. But he’s a starter in the league even if he’s like Volson except he’s good at pass blocking as 4 sacks in over 1600 pass plays is good. Facts don’t lie

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 06:25 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Did he say that? No, you are making crap up.

Calm down, man.

[*rfaulk34*]

(Yesterday, 09:08 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: So you wanted to give a roster spot to the worst starting OG in the NFL??????????????????

ThAt'S NoT WhAT he SaId, yOU'Re MaKiNg CraP UP!!!11!!11!!!!!!!111111







As a matter of fact, it's actually not what he said. Maybe go back and read it again and stop telling people how to interact until you can do it yourself?

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 09:08 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: So you wanted to give a roster spot to the worst starting OG in the NFL??????????????????

Sorry makes no sense and if he was the one they kept you would be screaming to the rooftops.

The Bengals have not darfted OL well for a long time, but it appears Mims may change that and Fairchild may as well. Many teams start mid round OL as rookies. As for Patrick, no I am not sold he will be great, but like I said it would be very hard to be worse than Cappa was in 2024 in both run and pass blocking.

Seems it was already cleared up. But no i wasn't suggesting keeping Cappa. I was asking why we are trying to beat the level of the play that got him cut rather than meat the level he was playing at when he was better.

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 09:16 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Patrick had 562 snaps in 2024 and missed a few games. He had 953 in 2023. In his last 1642 passing snaps 4 sacks. He’s no backup. He’s played 2751 snaps the last 4 years. O-L guys get hurt look at our team. We have little exposure with him. I agree he was not as good as I hoped but he protects well.

I also don't get the sense that he's even healthy now. Struggled to make it thru some practices and he's supposed to start games? 

I just dont think we did enough in that area. Hopefully it doesnt bite us and hopefully we get someone else in the building if health does become an issue.

[Soonerpeace]

(Yesterday, 11:42 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I also don't get the sense that he's even healthy now. Struggled to make it thru some practices and he's supposed to start games? 

I just dont think we did enough in that area. Hopefully it doesnt bite us and hopefully we get someone else in the building if health does become an issue.

The list of players with cramps in the first few days of camp is a mile long with 32 teams. He had cramps

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 11:44 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: The list of players with cramps in the first few days of camp is a mile long with 32 teams. He had cramps

He also had to leave in minicamp.

[XsandOs]

I am asking the board members for you opinion on the following:

Is Trey able to be a Team captain? He says he wants to be.

But watching Hill mic'd up vs. Giants, there are a couple of instances where he acts the opposite of someone who could be a Team captain.

https://www.bengals.com/video/b-j-hill-mic-d-up-in-primetime-against-giants-sounds-of-the-game

In one occasion, Hill is sitting three players down from Trey on the bench calling his name, and Trey just ignores him. And Hill says "Ok"

There is another play where Trey gets a sack and Hill goes up to him to congratulate or acknowledge the sack, and Trey ignores him.

Fans never get a look into the dynamics of what goes on in an NFL Team, but these two instances gave me a perspective into Trey that is disappointing.

I was looking for tape on Hill because of Wilkins availability after Raiders cut him, but in this clip I got an impression of Trey that is disturbing.

What do you think?

[Soonerpeace]

(6 hours ago)XsandOs Wrote: I am asking the board members for you opinion on the following:

Is Trey able to be a Team captain? He says he wants to be.

But watching Hill mic'd up vs. Giants, there are a couple of instances where he acts the opposite of someone who could be a Team captain.

https://www.bengals.com/video/b-j-hill-mic-d-up-in-primetime-against-giants-sounds-of-the-game

In one occasion, Hill is sitting three players down from Trey on the bench calling his name, and Trey just ignores him. And Hill says "Ok"

There is another play where Trey gets a sack and Hill goes up to him to congratulate or acknowledge the sack, and Trey ignores him.

Fans never get a look into the dynamics of what goes on in an NFL Team, but these two instances gave me a perspective into Trey that is disappointing.

I was looking for tape on Hill because of Wilkins availability after Raiders cut him, but in this clip I got an impression of Trey that is disturbing.

What do you think?

I didn’t think anything of it. Some players are so focused they are in their own world on the field. And some get tired of players who never shut up. But I’ve always loved BJ. He’s great. Of course he knew he was mic’d up.

[Soonerpeace]

(Today, 12:01 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: He also had to leave in minicamp.

Again I wish we’d done more there. But Patrick is experienced which is important in the OL. He’s shown good pass blocking. He cost little.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 10:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: ThAt'S NoT WhAT he SaId, yOU'Re MaKiNg CraP UP!!!11!!11!!!!!!!111111







As a matter of fact, it's actually not what he said. Maybe go back and read it again and stop telling people how to interact until you can do it yourself?

Calm down

[Luvnit2]

Trey starting to pay MB and the Bengals to sit in Florida. Just edit a previous post, I did not see Trey gets 200K per game, so once game starts, he will lose 9.5 million versus the 9.3 I stated previously per game missed.

Mandtory camp missed = 98K
Day 1 TC = 50K (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 2 TC = 50K (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 3 TC = 50K (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 4 TC = 50K (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 4 TC = 50K (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space

Total - 348K

[NUGDUKWE]

(6 hours ago)Soonerpeace Wrote: Again I wish we’d done more there. But Patrick is experienced which is important in the OL. He’s shown good pass blocking. He cost little.

Im hoping for the best and at this point it is what it is. I do think or hope Patrick is better than Cappa was last year I just hope we didnt let his poor play lower our bar for what we expect out of the position. I also hope if he doesnt appear to be healthy going forward that we dont just rely on what we have and we get someone else in the building before the season starts.

[NUGDUKWE]

(6 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Trey starting to pay MB and the Bengals to sit in Florida. Just edit a previous post, I did not see Trey gets 200K per game, so once game starts, he will lose 9.5 million versus the 9.3 I stated previously per game missed.

Mandtory camp missed = 98K
Day 1 TC = 50K (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 2 TC = 50K  (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 3 TC = 50K  (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 4 TC = 50K  (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space
Day 4 TC = 50K  (mandatory and can't be waived by team) Money also goes back into Bengals 2025 cap space

Total - 348K

Who cares about this? We all know he's not signed. 

[Luvnit2]

(5 hours ago)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Who cares about this? We all know he's not signed. 

It is just facts

Calm down

[NUGDUKWE]

(6 hours ago)XsandOs Wrote: I am asking the board members for you opinion on the following:

Is Trey able to be a Team captain? He says he wants to be.

But watching Hill mic'd up vs. Giants, there are a couple of instances where he acts the opposite of someone who could be a Team captain.

https://www.bengals.com/video/b-j-hill-mic-d-up-in-primetime-against-giants-sounds-of-the-game

In one occasion, Hill is sitting three players down from Trey on the bench calling his name, and Trey just ignores him. And Hill says "Ok"

There is another play where Trey gets a sack and Hill goes up to him to congratulate or acknowledge the sack, and Trey ignores him.

Fans never get a look into the dynamics of what goes on in an NFL Team, but these two instances gave me a perspective into Trey that is disappointing.

I was looking for tape on Hill because of Wilkins availability after Raiders cut him, but in this clip I got an impression of Trey that is disturbing.

What do you think?

I watched it and that's a big nothing Burger. I watched expecting to get a negative impression and to me he seemed good both instances Trey was distracted by other players or celebrating his sack. I think you might have looked into this a little too much.

Not sure what is the deciding factor on captaincy but I think Trey has earned it with his play if he wants it. But depending how long the contract stuff goes it may not work out that way anyway.

[NUGDUKWE]

(5 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: It is just facts

Calm down

I'm calm. I just genuinely don't understand your point with the post. He either gets signed or he doesn't. If he does the fines are meaningless.