John Ross will be a Bengal

[WeezyBengal]

Not sure if its really "inside information", but I am being told by one of their coaches to not be surprised if the Bengals take John Ross with their first round pick.

I was talking to him and he asked me what the offense was lacking. After I said a decent offensive line, he said what attribute, not position player, the offense was lacking. I immediately said speed and he kind of smiled at me and thats when he dropped the nugget about Ross.

Obviously the chips have to fall the right way, but I am being told by a pretty reliable source that the Bengals really like Ross.

[XenoMorph]

wouldn't be sad... If we cant fix the OL get a WR that can get down field or to his spot in a hurry so Dalton can unload the ball

[Socal Bengals fan]

Lapham said Ross last night. He's pretty much money .

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

John Ross is looking like he might slip into Round 2 due to medical concerns. Two meniscus tears, an ACL surgery, and a shoulder injury... for a 188 lb WR.

So of course the Bengals will take him 9th overall!

[WeezyBengal]

(04-27-2017, 04:26 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: Lapham said Ross last night.  He's pretty much money  .

Yeah I actually just read a second ago that Lap likes Ross as well. The more I hear about Ross and his speed the more I am open to it. 

[XenoMorph]

(04-27-2017, 04:27 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Yeah I actually just read a second ago that Lap likes Ross as well. The more I hear about Ross and his speed the more I am open to it. 

feels like an al davis type pick though

[WeezyBengal]

(04-27-2017, 04:30 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: feels like an al davis type pick though

It really does. I think Ross is a little more polished as a wide receiver than most pure speed receivers that have been drafted in the past, though. 

[Au165]

I believe Soloman Thomas or Jonathan Allen are there at 9, which then facilitates a slight trade back before we take Ross.

[Bengal Dude]

(04-27-2017, 04:27 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Yeah I actually just read a second ago that Lap likes Ross as well. The more I hear about Ross and his speed the more I am open to it. 

[THE PISTONS]

(04-27-2017, 04:27 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: John Ross is looking like he might slip into Round 2 due to medical concerns. Two meniscus tears, an ACL surgery, and a shoulder injury... for a 188 lb WR.

So of course the Bengals will take him 9th overall!

They can redshirt him his rookie year to recover...

[THE PISTONS]

Draft stock dropping for John Ross, Takkarist McKinley

There are two high-level prospects dealing with big medical questions leading up to the draft.

Washington wide receiver John Ross' talent is not in question, with teams believing he is a football player who happens to be fast, rather than a track guy trying to play football. He's one of the most talented players in the draft.

However, the medical report on Ross has scared teams as they've set up their boards for the 2017 NFL Draft in Philadelphia, which kicks off at 8 p.m. ET Thursday.

There are a handful of boards he is off, sources say. Other teams wonder if he'll fall into the late-first round or early second round because of his injury history.

He missed the 2015 season with an ACL and meniscus repair and had microfracture surgery the previous year. He also underwent labrum surgery this past March.

One source close to Ross said he has had no problems with his knees and while the history might scare teams, "there is nothing new that has showed up." Some teams are afraid, other teams are OK with it.

UCLA linebacker Takkarist McKinley is another prospect who has drawn medical concerns from teams ahead of the draft. He underwent shoulder surgery following the NFL Scouting Combine to repair a torn labrum and fix a glenoid fracture.

Teams have different evaluations on McKinley -- some believe he has a chance to be ready for the season, but according to many, the belief is he'll start the year on non-football injury (NFI) list and have to miss six games as a result.

McKinley did perform at the combine and was impressive, likely helping his stock. But having surgery in March complicates his situation. The surgery was complex, as well. Sources say the back third of the ball socket in his shoulder was fractured, in addition to a 360-degree labrum tear. To reattach the labrum, they had to screw it down on the bone.

While teams have their concerns, a source close to McKinley said full recovery from shoulder surgery is 4-6 months. His surgery was on March 5, so he could return at any point from July 5 to Sept. 5.

Dr. Peter Millett, one of the country's shoulder specialists, at Steadman Hawkins in Vail, Colorado, performed the surgery. Scans from the combine recheck in Indianapolis show the recovery is on course. McKinley's goal is to be ready for the season.

But more than a handful of teams have drawn their own conclusions, and McKinley could slide into Day 2 of the draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000803055/article/draft-stock-dropping-for-john-ross-takkarist-mckinley

[Trademark]

Got to go with Jonathan Allen....Ross has injuries

[*ochocincos*]

(04-27-2017, 04:13 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Not sure if its really "inside information", but I am being told by one of their coaches to not be surprised if the Bengals take John Ross with their first round pick.

I was talking to him and he asked me what the offense was lacking. After I said a decent offensive line, he said what attribute, not position player, the offense was lacking. I immediately said speed and he kind of smiled at me and thats when he dropped the nugget about Ross.

Obviously the chips have to fall the right way, but I am being told by a pretty reliable source that the Bengals really like Ross.

I think the plan last year was actually to draft Coleman or Fuller to have that speed element and have LaFell play more in the slot. Neither speed guy was available last year at the Bengals pick and they took a good slot receiver that can also play outside but his game isn't built on speed. Now they can get that speed element and honestly a better player than either Coleman or Fuller. All he needs is to stay healthy.

[WeezyBengal]

(04-27-2017, 04:35 PM)Trademark Wrote: Got to go with Jonathan Allen....Ross has injuries

If Jonathan Allen is there then i absolutely take him over Ross. I agree. 

[magikod]

If we go John Ross I would be so mad. I would rather get Mike Williams over him if need be.

[*ochocincos*]

(04-27-2017, 04:35 PM)Trademark Wrote: Got to go with Jonathan Allen....Ross has injuries

Allen also has health concerns (arthritic shoulders). He's able to play (and play well) with this, but it's something that could affect him years down the road.
The point I'm trying to make if you're willing to take the gamble on Allen, you should be willing to take the same gamble on Ross.
If you're not willing to gamble on Ross because of health concerns, you should also be hesitant of Jonathan Allen.

[The Real Deal]

(04-27-2017, 04:48 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Allen also has health concerns (arthritic shoulders). He's able to play (and play well) with this, but it's something that could affect him years down the road.
The point I'm trying to make if you're willing to take the gamble on Allen, you should be willing to take the same gamble on Ross.
If you're not willing to gamble on Ross because of health concerns, you should also be hesitant of Jonathan Allen.

This is what I was thinking when I read that response as well.

[THE PISTONS]

You have to wonder if these guys health concerns aren't just a matter of the great medical tests around today. Years ago, a lot of this stuff probably never got diagnosed.

[Bengalpool]

(04-27-2017, 04:48 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Allen also has health concerns (arthritic shoulders). He's able to play (and play well) with this, but it's something that could affect him years down the road.
The point I'm trying to make if you're willing to take the gamble on Allen, you should be willing to take the same gamble on Ross.
If you're not willing to gamble on Ross because of health concerns, you should also be hesitant of Jonathan Allen.

I fully agree. It's just one's bias opinion. I love John Ross. I know he has a history of injuries. The Bengals seem pretty confident about him. I don't like Allen. I know he as well has injury concerns. I just don't like him as a player, but I'm not going to blame it on his injuries as to why I don't want him. There's so much talent coming into the draft from Alabama on their front seven alone. I'd rather have 3 other players in that front seven in this years draft than to draft Allen. I just don't think he was as good as everyone thinks he was. Nothing to due with injuries for me.

[THE PISTONS]

Really IF Fournette goes at 4...we're not in a great spot at 9. I'd rather have us trade down with maybe Cleveland to 12 and pick up an extra 3rd Round pick.

If we could package a 3rd and 4th then for another 2nd...that would be great!