Posts: 6,236
Threads: 440
Reputation:
45527
Joined: May 2015
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 19,243
Threads: 239
Reputation:
179506
Joined: May 2015
I found this: https://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-finish-a-wooden-picnic-table
As for metal. As long as it’s painted it should be good. If not, primer and paint it. If it cheaply painted (you should be able to tell) you could lightly scoff it with primer and repaint with a more durable paint.
Posts: 26,196
Threads: 656
Reputation:
247603
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
From what I could tell, it looks to be pre-finished for outdoor use. Short of epoxy coating it, I can't think of any finish that will last forever in the elements.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 6,236
Threads: 440
Reputation:
45527
Joined: May 2015
(04-15-2019, 04:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: From what I could tell, it looks to be pre-finished for outdoor use. Short of epoxy coating it, I can't think of any finish that will last forever in the elements.
It is pre coated, but I wanted to protect it even more since the reviews are saying it doesnt hold up long. Is there ssomething I can put on top of the pre coating to protect it even more?
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 6,236
Threads: 440
Reputation:
45527
Joined: May 2015
(04-15-2019, 04:01 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I found this: https://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-finish-a-wooden-picnic-table
As for metal. As long as it’s painted it should be good. If not, primer and paint it. If it cheaply painted (you should be able to tell) you could lightly scoff it with primer and repaint with a more durable paint.
So just put a couple coats of polyuerathane on it and call it a day?
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 26,196
Threads: 656
Reputation:
247603
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(04-15-2019, 04:30 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: It is pre coated, but I wanted to protect it even more since the reviews are saying it doesnt hold up long. Is there ssomething I can put on top of the pre coating to protect it even more?
In order to put something over the factory finish, you need to find out what was in the factory finish, and find a product that will bond to it. Polyurethane is a great product, but the sun will get to it, quickly. Dad and I made a bar top out in his back yard leisure space, we have to refinish it every year.
I do know that they make paints with epoxy in them, Minwax and Rustoleum make them. I'm sure they also offer a clear coat version.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 6,236
Threads: 440
Reputation:
45527
Joined: May 2015
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 38,906
Threads: 921
Reputation:
132452
Joined: May 2015
(04-15-2019, 04:30 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: It is pre coated, but I wanted to protect it even more since the reviews are saying it doesnt hold up long. Is there ssomething I can put on top of the pre coating to protect it even more?
Just buy a waterproof cover (table cloth).
Adding an additional chemical might not mix with what is currently protecting it. Only other choice would be to strip it and apply shellac.
Posts: 6,629
Threads: 88
Reputation:
45977
Joined: Apr 2017
(04-15-2019, 04:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Just buy a waterproof cover (table cloth).
Adding an additional chemical might not mix with what is currently protecting it. Only other choice would be to strip it and apply shellac.
I was going to say the samething. I'd cover it when not in use. You have to be really good at refinishing to make it look like it did from the facory.
Posts: 26,196
Threads: 656
Reputation:
247603
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(04-15-2019, 04:49 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: What about just spraying it with something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Thompsons-10100-Aerosol-Multi-Surface-Waterproofer/dp/B000LNTQNI
Well, like I mentioned before, you'll have to make sure that it will bond with the factory finish. If it doesn't stick, you'll just be wasting your time.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 40,628
Threads: 1,062
Joined: May 2015
(04-16-2019, 11:37 AM)sandwedge Wrote: I was going to say the samething. I'd cover it when not in use. You have to be really good at refinishing to make it look like it did from the facory.
I keep the surface of mine covered with a layer of empty plates, glasses, beer cans, ashtrays, and newspaper.
Posts: 5,306
Threads: 17
Reputation:
21611
Joined: May 2015
As others have said, you'd need to pretty much strip the factory coating to apply an epoxy finish that would really achieve what it sounds like you're looking for. In that case, I would cover it when not in use and look at refinishing it down the line once the current coating has lost its luster.
I've used total boat epoxy on quite a few projects and have liked the finish and protection its provided. Its definitely cost prohibitive, especially with a piece this size. I've also received high recommendations on the newer stone coat epoxy products from other woodworking buddies, again, cost prohibitive.
With something this size, I think stripping it and applying a UV specific spar-urathane product down the line will be the best bet overall.
Posts: 6,629
Threads: 88
Reputation:
45977
Joined: Apr 2017
(04-16-2019, 12:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I keep the surface of mine covered with a layer of empty plates, glasses, beer cans, ashtrays, and newspaper.
Posts: 19,243
Threads: 239
Reputation:
179506
Joined: May 2015
Wrap it in one of these. PROTECT THE WOOD!
![[Image: The-biggest-condom-ever_o_57634.jpg]](https://img.memecdn.com/The-biggest-condom-ever_o_57634.jpg)
Posts: 16,461
Threads: 151
Reputation:
61934
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 14,295
Threads: 294
Reputation:
31588
Joined: May 2015
Ask one or more of these folks.. https://www.woodworkingtalk.com/forum.php#/
Many have been in the wood business for many years and are quite helpful .
By the way, if you do manage to damage the wood feel free to contact me to remake the wood components. I'm guessing since it's from Walmart it's likely some cheap Asian wood like perhaps rubber tree wood which generally comes from rubber tree plantations after all the trunks have been tapped for the rubbery sap..
I'd go with something known to withstand the elements such as white oak or even better, tzalam. (Caribbean walnut)
In the immortal words of my old man, "Wait'll you get to be my age!"
Chicago sounds rough to the maker of verse, but the one comfort we have is Cincinnati sounds worse. ~Oliver Wendal Holmes Sr.
Posts: 40,628
Threads: 1,062
Joined: May 2015
(04-16-2019, 05:44 PM)grampahol Wrote: Ask one or more of these folks.. https://www.woodworkingtalk.com/forum.php#/
Many have been in the wood business for many years and are quite helpful .
By the way, if you do manage to damage the wood feel free to contact me to remake the wood components. I'm guessing since it's from Walmart it's likely some cheap Asian wood like perhaps rubber tree wood which generally comes from rubber tree plantations after all the trunks have been tapped for the rubbery sap..
I'd go with something known to withstand the elements such as white oak or even better, tzalam. (Caribbean walnut)
It is Acacia Wood. It is a strong hardwood that is supposed to be naturally moisture resistant.
Posts: 40,628
Threads: 1,062
Joined: May 2015
(04-15-2019, 04:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Adding an additional chemical might not mix with what is currently protecting it.
(04-16-2019, 12:10 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Well, like I mentioned before, you'll have to make sure that it will bond with the factory finish. If it doesn't stick, you'll just be wasting your time.
This. Some waterproofing treatments are thin as water and need to soak into the wood grain. Some are like oil. Others are like polyurethane or varnish.
Water based polyurethane and shellac are not recommended for table tops because they are sensitive to heat. You can't sit anything hot on them.
So I recommend a varnish or oil based polyurethane.
Posts: 6,236
Threads: 440
Reputation:
45527
Joined: May 2015
Thanks for the input everyone.
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
|
![[Image: Screenshot-2022-02-02-154836.png]](https://i.ibb.co/db2LNsj/Screenshot-2022-02-02-154836.png)
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
