07-25-2021, 04:54 PM
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Covid punishments....
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07-25-2021, 04:59 PM
(07-22-2021, 08:04 PM)SuperBowlBound! Wrote: If you are already vaccinated why are you worried a bout the people who are not vaccinated? +Because the dumbass who isnt vaccinated can get infected and allow the virus to mutate into additional variants that can be more contagious, more deadly, and even able to infect vaccinated people. So now your poor choice cause more pain, suffering and death....not to mention economic harm. Thats why we worry about those who dont get vaccinated. Be a decent human being and be considerate of others beside yourself.
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07-25-2021, 05:01 PM
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07-25-2021, 05:08 PM
(07-23-2021, 10:35 AM)Big_Ern Wrote: There will likely never be herd immunity. We don't have herd immunity for colds and flus Thats because cold and flu have been around humans for literally thousands of years and have mutated into innumerable variants. We have a chance with this virus, which is new to humans, to stop it in its tracks BEFORE it can mutate into thousands of variants. But people want to scream about my body my choice....unless youre a woman considering abortion, then that no longer applies. People need to STFU and get the vaccination.
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07-25-2021, 07:33 PM
(07-25-2021, 05:08 PM)Beaker Wrote: Thats because cold and flu have been around humans for literally thousands of years and have mutated into innumerable variants. We have a chance with this virus, which is new to humans, to stop it in its tracks BEFORE it can mutate into thousands of variants. But people want to scream about my body my choice....unless youre a woman considering abortion, then that no longer applies. People need to STFU and get the vaccination. Coronaviruses are not new. Will never be gone either. Literally hundreds of variations in coronaviruses
07-25-2021, 08:12 PM
(07-25-2021, 04:59 PM)Beaker Wrote: Be a decent human being and be considerate of others beside yourself. That reminds me of my trip to Kroger today. Sign says vaccinated don't need a mask, and of course 95 percent of the people are walking around the store without a mask. If only 50 percent of the public is actually vaccinated, I suspect many unvaccinated are just ignoring the sign. Any freedom lovers here want to admit to doing this? Or do you have the freedom to not tell, also. Ha. I'm vaccinated and eventually I might be told to put a mask on again because people not wearing a mask or being vaccinated are spreading it.
07-25-2021, 09:39 PM
(07-25-2021, 07:33 PM)Big_Ern Wrote: Coronaviruses are not new. Will never be gone either. Literally hundreds of variations in coronaviruses https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronaviruses https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html According to those two articles, how many affect humans?
07-25-2021, 10:34 PM
I would rather see rescheduling headaches than see some teams make the playoffs because several teams took fake "Ls". This could lead to a pretty dumb and meaningless season with a fake champion.
It will also lead to COVID being the central talking point for the NFL season, and all we hear about on sports radio. Yay. Bravo, NFL. They've been handling everything amazingly lately.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
07-26-2021, 12:05 AM
(07-25-2021, 09:39 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronaviruses So you think they'll be eradicated by the vaccine? Because they won't
07-26-2021, 08:16 AM
(07-25-2021, 04:54 PM)Beaker Wrote: This is a perfect example of freedom of choice....and the consequences of making the wrong choice. This statement is awful and you should know that.
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07-26-2021, 08:31 AM
(07-25-2021, 09:05 AM)bengaloo Wrote: You could be right, although I think social distancing and washing your hands, not touching face, etc, are far more effective than vaccines and masks both and have been the entire time. Sydney is currently experiencing a Delta outbreak and is in the middle of a lockdown, we are getting deaths from this variant including young people which we haven't had here before. We are getting hospitalisations with a higher percentage of younger people as well. Not one person who is fully vaccinated has been hospitalised in this outbreak. This variant has been much more contagious, in previous outbreaks roughly 30% of household contacts would contract the virus, this outbreak is very close to 100% of household contact contracting the virus. We are having this outbreak and lockdown due to our poor vaccine rollout.
07-26-2021, 08:36 AM
(07-25-2021, 10:58 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Guessing she does not trust what's going on there and wants to hear what American Drs say and she trust me enough to have me inquire for them. When covid started there was a early curfew and they were beat with rubber hoses if caught on the street and told they were too poor to be treated if contracted. Its a little different than herald sadly they probably can not afford to go to a Dr just to ask this question. Good point mate, I'm in Australia and it is even easier here than in the US to see a doctor so I probably should take that into account.
07-26-2021, 08:46 AM
(07-25-2021, 12:13 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: We're almost always going to tell patients to wash their hands to prevent spread of disease because it is part of basic hygiene, but surface transmission of Covid is approximately 0.01%. So washing your hands isn't even close to being more effective than the vaccines or wearing masks to reduce respiratory droplets. Social distancing is important so you avoid respiratory droplets from others (especially those not wearing a mask to keep their respiratory droplets to themselves), but more effective than the vaccine? Doubtful. People at the grocery store won't stay 6 feet away from me. My lay understanding of vaccines is the active agent is only in the body for a short period of time as all it is doing is triggering an immune response and the immune system does all the heavy lifting of the vaccine. Due to this vaccines are unlikely to have to have long term effects compared to other types of medication the doses are repeated as it is the medication itself that is having any effect on the disease.
07-26-2021, 09:12 AM
(07-23-2021, 12:37 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Yet, the medical community still recommends getting a Covid vaccination after recovering from Covid. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9
07-26-2021, 09:17 AM
(07-25-2021, 10:34 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I would rather see rescheduling headaches than see some teams make the playoffs because several teams took fake "Ls". This could lead to a pretty dumb and meaningless season with a fake champion. Maybe. Last season was covid crazy with little to no fans and no preseason and all sorts of wacky variables and it still ended up being Tom Brady vs another elite QB team in the super bowl. I just don't see things being all that insane this year, even if some fake W's are handed out. I'll believe it when I see it.
07-26-2021, 09:30 AM
(07-26-2021, 08:31 AM)AussieBengal Wrote: Sydney is currently experiencing a Delta outbreak and is in the middle of a lockdown, we are getting deaths from this variant including young people which we haven't had here before. We are getting hospitalisations with a higher percentage of younger people as well. Not one person who is fully vaccinated has been hospitalised in this outbreak. The higher percentage of young people hospitalized is a skewed number. It's probably the same number it has always been, but more and more older people took the vaccine and are not hospitalized, so the percentages are higher. The Bucs are 16-0 headed for the 20-0 Brady says he wants to go this season, and your unvaccinated self brings covid into the locker room and cause a forfeit? Would you want to be that guy? I'm just glad the Bengals are one of the teams with over 85% of players vaccinated.
07-26-2021, 09:32 AM
(07-25-2021, 10:34 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I would rather see rescheduling headaches than see some teams make the playoffs because several teams took fake "Ls". This could lead to a pretty dumb and meaningless season with a fake champion. I still remember that awful roughing the passer penalty against Justin Smith hitting Bruce Gradkowski costing the Bengals the game. The catch rule probably cost more teams more games than this rule will. The difference is the players are in control of this. If they don't want this rule to affect to the schedule or their record then comply with the rule or be penalized just like any other rule of the game.
07-26-2021, 09:37 AM
Plus, it's not like they get penalized just for not getting vaccinated. They have to test positive and have enough other players test positive that they cannot field a team.
07-26-2021, 09:40 AM
(07-26-2021, 12:05 AM)Big_Ern Wrote: So you think they'll be eradicated by the vaccine? Because they won't No, Ern, I don't think a vaccine for humans will eradicate viruses in animals that don't even affect humans. In general, if viruses in animals don't cause disease in humans we just leave those alone. But, what I do think the Covid 19 vaccine will do for humans is reduce the number of cases, hospitalizations, complications, and deaths in humans from Covid 19. Much in the same way the rabies vaccine reduces deaths in humans, but doesn't eradicate the rabies virus in animals that don't get the rabies vaccine designed for humans. Please pass this along to whomever provided you with that misinformation which serves as the basis for a false equivalency between colds and Covid 19.
07-26-2021, 09:44 AM
(07-26-2021, 08:46 AM)AussieBengal Wrote: My lay understanding of vaccines is the active agent is only in the body for a short period of time as all it is doing is triggering an immune response and the immune system does all the heavy lifting of the vaccine. Due to this vaccines are unlikely to have to have long term effects compared to other types of medication the doses are repeated as it is the medication itself that is having any effect on the disease. Correct. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/vaccines/COVID-19-mRNA-infographic_G_508.pdf |
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