BJ Hill Re-signing with Bengals

[*ochocincos*]

(03-14-2022, 03:49 PM)Au165 Wrote: That's not what that means, $15 million is what he gets paid in year 1 which includes signing bonus. So it could be $10 million signing bonus plus $5 millions salary. His Cap hit would be 8.3 million in that scenario. 

I guess I interpreted based on what the cap hits are going to be, but yes we'll have to see the structure.
I had always thought the guaranteed money wasn't all paid upfront since it's spread across the contract typically.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Love it. Now we can likely grab a CB in the 1st (or maybe RT).

[Au165]

(03-14-2022, 03:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I guess I interpreted based on what the cap hits are going to be, but yes we'll have to see the structure.
I had always thought the guaranteed money wasn't all paid upfront since it's spread across the contract typically.

Yea, in most cases year 1 is lowest because the signing bonus gets paid year 1 and prorated out so they lower salary year one to smooth out actual cash to player. My guess is all these deals next year is lower than the the AVG per.

[RunKijanaRun]

AWESOME

One more FA OL. Please!

[BuildTheWall]

Good! A bit more than I anticipated but a good deal, and, personally I liked him much better than Larry. More of a complete package DL.l, and the more I thought about it the more firm I was on the BJ>Larry camp. Still, thank you Larry, can’t keep everybody. But gotta keep the DL as a strength.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-14-2022, 03:53 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Love it. Now we can likely grab a CB in the 1st (or maybe RT).

It's definitely trending toward that.

Starting IOL seems nearly solidified.
Starting DT and S solidified now.

Just TE, CB, and RT to worry about now.

[SunsetBengal]

I love it! Seems like just about everything is falling into place for the Bengals. It's a great time to be a Bengal fan!

[Shake n Blake]

(03-14-2022, 03:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Gross overpay for a guy who is a backup that hasn't played more than 47% of the snaps since 2018 coming off a career year. They just made BJ Hill the 15th highest paid DT in the league.

He's being paid based on what he did for us. 7 sacks (counting playoffs). 70.4 PFF grade. Several big plays in the playoffs. If he keeps performing at that level, I don't think we overpaid.

[Weazzel80]

Honestly, I felt like our run defense improved when Larry O got injured and BJ took over for our playoff push. I'm cool with the signing.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-14-2022, 03:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Gross overpay for a guy who is a backup that hasn't played more than 47% of the snaps since 2018 coming off a career year. They just made BJ Hill the 15th highest paid DT in the league.

This is a hell of a lot better deal than what Chicago gave Ogunjobi. And Hill is a better all around player (Ogunjobi is weak against the run).

[casear2727]

Browns fans were getting excited, LOL

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-14-2022, 03:58 PM)Weazzel80 Wrote: Honestly, I felt like our run defense improved when Larry O got injured and BJ took over for our playoff push. I'm cool with the signing.

Hill is MUCH better against the run, and only slightly worse as a pass rusher.

[WeezyBengal]

(03-14-2022, 03:46 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: That was a big one. Now DL doesn’t become a need this year. Honestly DB is the biggest need on defense

DL is still a need. There is zero depth behind Hill. 

[Luvnit2]

(03-14-2022, 03:45 PM)ochocincos Wrote: $15 mill for this year seems really steep given the lack of cap space, but I'm happy to see him back.
MY GUY!

They could be front loading for cap reasons

Year 1 fifteen million dollar bonus which can spread over 3 years so 5 million towards cap hit in 2022 versus 15 million cap hit in year 1

[WeezyBengal]

(03-14-2022, 03:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I want to front load as much cap as possible this year. We have a QB who we can extend/should next year. 

And a WR (Higgins) 

[THE PISTONS]

(03-14-2022, 03:55 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's definitely trending toward that.

Starting IOL seems nearly solidified.
Starting DT and S solidified now.

Just TE, CB, and RT to worry about now.

Assuming Hopkins is the C and Karras the G, right?

[Rubekahn29]

(03-14-2022, 04:00 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: DL is still a need. There is zero depth behind Hill. 

Depth yes, but you have to think with Ossai Hubbard will slide inside on some plays.

[BuildTheWall]

(03-14-2022, 03:59 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Hill is MUCH better against the run, and only slightly worse as a pass rusher.

Just as I said. More complete all-around defensive lineman. It isn’t just sacks. Our DL, without Larry, did a great job at keeping the Rams run game in check. And BJ also had the huge play against KC where he batted and picked off a pass. Glad it’s him if we could only keep one.

[TecmoBengals]

This is wonderful news. With the two OL signings and Hill coming back, it further allows the Bengals pick at #31 to be about best player available rather than reaching to fill a need.

[casear2727]

For those that were wanting Larry O instead of Hilll check out this article. BJ outperformed LO in many categories:

https://theathletic.com/3175989/2022/03/11/defining-bengals-free-agency-decisions-part-2-b-j-hill-vs-larry-ogunjobi-and-the-nightmare-scenario/