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2024 Bengals Free Agency/Roster Thread
 
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(03-11-2024, 01:39 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Let's play out the scenario of someone like Kendall Fuller and he starts opposite CTB.
Where does that leave DJ Turner?
CB4?

If so, you gotta wonder about these "stud" DBs that came out of Michigan if Hill also potentially gets demoted, as Hilton is gonna continue to start at nickel unless he were to get let go.

Perhaps the Michigan secondary appeared to be better than they are showing as Pros because their DL was playing so well?
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(03-11-2024, 01:39 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Let's play out the scenario of someone like Kendall Fuller and he starts opposite CTB.
Where does that leave DJ Turner?
CB4?

If so, you gotta wonder about these "stud" DBs that came out of Michigan if Hill also potentially gets demoted, as Hilton is gonna continue to start at nickel unless he were to get let go.

You use 3 outside CBs pretty frequently, and inevitably at least one of them will get hurt for awhile. It's why I am actually on team re-sign Awuzie, you need 3 outside CBs, and absolutely Turner would be kicked to the #3 outside, he was not good last year.
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Please post all non=Bengals free agency news here: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-NFL-Free-Agency-News-Signings-Thread

Keep this thread separate for Bengals related items.
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this likely means Henry is gone for sure

Titans are giving former Cowboys running back a three-year, $24 millon deal, per source.

 
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(03-11-2024, 01:43 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You use 3 outside CBs pretty frequently, and inevitably at least one of them will get hurt for awhile. It's why I am actually on team re-sign Awuzie, you need 3 outside CBs, and absolutely Turner would be kicked to the #3 outside, he was not good last year.

Just not good to essentially be a backup in your 2nd (or in case of Hill, 3rd) season as such an early round pick.
Hard to get into starting role during your rookie contract if you aren't in that spot after a year or two.
Look what's happened with Jackson Carman.
He showed some flashes as a rookie, then he lost the starting LG spot to Volson in his 2nd year and hasn't gotten even close to starter opportunity since.
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I'm not a forum mod or anything, but the boss started a FA thread: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-NFL-Free-Agency-News-Signings-Thread

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Putting Wilkins together with Myles Garrett would be seriously scary

 
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At this point should we just swap thread titles? ?
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The Browns have zero cap room yet can sign Wilkins but we're not interested with plenty of space? How does this make any sense?
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If the top DT market is high and takes a while to settle, the Bengals would be smart to just land RT and Fuller now and if needed make a trade for a quality DT if Reader walks.
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Resigned Drew to a 3 year deal so doubt it’s for minimum.

Erm ok
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DT Wilkins to Raiders: 4 yrs/$110 mil.

OT Dawkins back to Bills, 3 yr/$60.5.

Jags sign C Morse 2 yr/$10.5 and WR Gabe Davis (no terms).

Swift to Bears, 3/$24.

DE Greenard to Vikes, 4 yr/$76 mil.
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Alright, at the moment, including tags & tenders:

Starting with guys who were on the 53 last year: 45. Plus 11 Future's/PS guys for 56.

Offense: (19)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): Moss; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (4): Chase, Higgins; Iosivas, C. Jones
TE (1): D. Sample
OT (4): O. Brown; Ford (OT/G), Carman, D. Smith
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; T. Hill (C/G)
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Defense: (23)
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai
DT (4): BJ Hill; Carter, Tufele, Bell
LB (4): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Harper
CB (5): CTB, Turner, Hilton; Ivey (inj), J. Davis
S (5): Stone, Battle; D. Hill, Scott, Anderson (inj)
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ST: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Robbins
LS: Adomitis

Future's (9) + Practice Squad (2) = 11

WR: Jackson, Lassitter, Pryor
OT: Cochran
OG: Gilliam, Kirkland
DE: Gunter
DT: D. Davis, Maxwell
LB: Heyward
CB: George
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So far:

IN/BACK: 9
Re-Signed (4): D. Sample, ADG, Ford, T. Williams
Signed (2): Stone, Moss
Tagged/Tendered (3): Higgins, Browning, Adomitis.

OUT/CUT: 3
Cut/Waived (2): Mixon, McCarron
Sogned elsewhere (1): Chido
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Updated with Gesicki signing.

Total = 57 (20 + 23 + 3 + 11).

A. Offense: (20)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): Moss; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (4): Chase, Higgins; Iosivas, C. Jones
TE (2): Gesicki, D. Sample
OT (4): O. Brown; Ford (OT/G), Carman, D. Smith
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; T. Hill (C/G)
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B. Defense: (23)
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai
DT (4): BJ Hill; Carter, Tufele, Bell
LB (4): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Harper
CB (5): CTB, Turner, Hilton; Ivey (inj), J. Davis
S (5): Stone, Battle; D. Hill, Scott, Anderson (inj)
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C. Special Teams: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Robbins
LS: Adomitis
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D.  Future's (9) + Practice Squad (2) = 11

WR: Jackson, Lassitter, Pryor
OT: Cochran
OG: Gilliam, Kirkland
DE: Gunter
DT: D. Davis, Maxwell
LB: Heyward
CB: George
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E.  Ins & Outs

1.  Ins: 10 Players + 2 picks

Signed (3): Stone, Moss, Gesicki 
Re-Signed (4): D. Sample, ADG, Ford, Williams
Tagged/Tendered (3): Higgins, Browning, Adomitis
Draft Captlital (2): 3rd Round comp (NFL adj), + Mixon compensation

2.  Outs (3)

Traded (1): Mixon 
Waived/Cut (1): McCarron
Signed Elsewhere (1): Awuzie
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Updated with Nick Scott release. +$2 mil to dead cap, but minus $4.3 on salary. Nets $2.3 in savings.


Spotrac numbers on cap hits for new signings are: Stone $6.025, Moss $2.972, Gesicki $2.5. I am using reported numbers for Sample ($4.9), ADG ($3) and guessing vetin for T. Williams. The actual Sample/ADG numbers are probably lower.


We have 45 who were on our 53 last year. Allowing the cap hit for #18 and re-signing some vet min types (Irwin, Scharping, Tupou, Bailey, Bachie, Hudson, etc) to get us to 51, and taking out roughly $4 mil for the PS, leaves us at roughly $33.5 in space.

Total = 56 (20 + 22 + 3 + 11).

A. Offense: (20)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): Moss; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (4): Chase, Higgins; Iosivas, C. Jones
TE (2): Gesicki, D. Sample
OT (4): O. Brown; Ford (OT/G), Carman, D. Smith
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; T. Hill (C/G)
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B. Defense: (22)
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai
DT (4): BJ Hill; Carter, Tufele, Bell
LB (4): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Harper
CB (5): CTB, Turner, Hilton; Ivey (inj), J. Davis
S (5): Stone, Battle; D. Hill, Anderson (inj)
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C. Special Teams: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Robbins
LS: Adomitis
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D.  Future's (9) + Practice Squad (2) = 11

WR: Jackson, Lassitter, Pryor
OT: Cochran
OG: Gilliam, Kirkland
DE: Gunter
DT: D. Davis, Maxwell
LB: Heyward
CB: George
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E.  Ins & Outs

1.  Ins: 10 Players + 2 picks

Signed (3): Stone, Moss, Gesicki 
Re-Signed (4): D. Sample, ADG, Ford, Williams
Tagged/Tendered (3): Higgins, Browning, Adomitis
Draft Captlital (2): 3rd Round comp (NFL adj), + 7th (Mixon trade)

2.  Outs (4)

Traded (1): Mixon 
Waived/Cut (2): Scott, McCarron
Signed Elsewhere (1): Awuzie
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DT Sheldon Rankins signed. 2 years/$26 million. IDK on the cap hit, but we probably have around $20 mil left.


Jonah to Cardinals. 2 yrs/$30 mil.

Total = 57 (20 + 23 + 3 + 11).

A. Offense: (20)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): Moss; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (4): Chase, Higgins; Iosivas, C. Jones
TE (2): Gesicki, D. Sample
OT (4): O. Brown; Ford (OT/G), Carman, D. Smith
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; T. Hill (C/G)
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B. Defense: (23)
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, C. Sample, Ossai
DT (5): BJ Hill, Rankins; Carter, Tufele, Bell
LB (4): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Harper
CB (5): CTB, Turner, Hilton; Ivey (inj), J. Davis
S (4): Stone, Battle; D. Hill, Anderson (inj)
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C. Special Teams: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Robbins
LS: Adomitis
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D.  Future's (9) + Practice Squad (2) = 11

WR: Jackson, Lassitter, Pryor
OT: Cochran
OG: Gilliam, Kirkland
DE: Gunter
DT: D. Davis, Maxwell
LB: Heyward
CB: George
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E.  Ins & Outs

1.  Ins: 11 Players + 2 picks

Signed (4): Rankins, Stone, Moss, Gesicki 
Re-Signed (4): D. Sample, ADG, Ford, Williams
Tagged/Tendered (3): Higgins, Browning, Adomitis
Draft Captlital (2): 3rd Round comp (NFL adj), + 7th (Mixon trade)

2.  Outs (5)

Traded (1): Mixon 
Waived/Cut (2): Scott, McCarron
Signed Elsewhere (2): Jonah Williams (2/$30), Awuzie (3/$36). 
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