Reds July Game Thread 2024

[Timanky12]

(07-28-2024, 03:23 PM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: Bats were mostly silent, two or three base running gaffes, and a manager who still doesn't understand situational late-inning baseball.

Our 2024 Cincinnati Reds in a nutshell.

Bell will never be confused with a manager that knows how to manage close, low scoring game.

[Timanky12]

Only the Reds can lose a game while only giving up only 3 hits. Oh, and 3 walks and a strikeout batter that gets on base, to score another run. Nice pitching there.

Remember the commercial years ago, there will be no Marvin’s on your job. Well we had one coaching the Bengals, Marvin Lewis, and now we have one coaching the Reds, David Marvin Bell.

Please cut the chord and let’s move on.

[*bengalfan74*]

So Greene pitches a gem, Elly is running wild, and the rest of the team stayed on the bus. Please, please send David Bell and this coaching staff packing. I'm fine with now this season is all but lost.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(07-28-2024, 06:37 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: So Greene pitches a gem, Elly is running wild, and the rest of the team stayed on the bus. Please, please send David Bell and this coaching staff packing. I'm fine with now this season is all but lost.

Really both the best and worst of Elly offensively in one day.

Getting on base 4 times and stealing 4 bases is awesome. Getting thrown out on the bases 2 of those 4 times is not awesome.

[*bengalfan74*]

(07-28-2024, 07:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Really both the best and worst of Elly offensively in one day.

Getting on base 4 times and stealing 4 bases is awesome. Getting thrown out on the bases 2 of those 4 times is not awesome.

Right

Being aggressive = good   Being stupid aggressive = bad

[kevin]

Tampa again shows me why I wish Cincinnati would use Tampa blueprint.  Tampa just doesn't get into contracts like Reds did with Votto or Moose.  OK, Votto was an MVP when Reds made the 10 year, no trade, big money contract.  Moose however should have never got the contract he was given, not by Cincinnati anyway.  If Cincinnati could be a little more money wise like Tampa.  So Tampa won series from Cincinnati, but Tampa year after year is right up there with Yankees and Red Sox at far less the payroll.  They don't go out and blow their money on Moose Type contracts.  Rays became real good under Joe Maddon before he went to Chicago and won first World Series in 100 years for Cubs. However Rays stayed a good team using the same blueprint of Pitching, Defense, Minor Leagues, and don't make stupid expensive contracts. Don't write checks that your butt can't cover. Cincinnati and Tampa are not NY or LA, so don't try to spend money like them, because you just can't.  Tampa figured that out, and they have good teams on less payroll.  

[*bengalfan74*]

The Reds have 57 games left. They're sitting at 10 games out of first at 50-55 and there are 8 NL teams with more wins than them not counting div. leaders.

Of the top 8 guys with the most at bats, 5 are hitting under .240. Of the guys with 80 at bats or more, (14) 4 are hitting below .200 including the guy (Benson) with the 5th most at bats on the team -

We have one guy with 50 or more RBI's - Steer In a very HR friendly ball park we are 15th in team HR's = 114 We're 6th place in team K's = 950 and 28th in team batting average = .228

In summary our lack of offense has killed this season.

[The D.O.Z.]

I wonder what C-level free agent we throw B+ money at to this off-season. They can locker him up right next to Candellario and their wives can become best friends.

[*bengalfan74*]

(07-29-2024, 01:21 PM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: I wonder what C-level free agent we throw B+ money at to this off-season. They can locker him up right next to Candellario and their wives can become best friends.

Exactly

They'll pick up a used up once was hitter and tout him as our savior. Then get a couple mediocre pitchers and act like they're top shelf and we'll roll another season closer to turning over all the good ones to the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Astros and keep the clock rolling on with zero post season success.

Like has been said it's MB 2.0 in Reds country now.

[The D.O.Z.]

I don't have the link, but the Reds traded for another Austin Slater bat and called up a catcher today. I wonder who gets traded from the IF.

PLEASE let it be Candyass.

[Timanky12]

Reds trade for Ty France, batting .226. What were there no sub .200 batters available to add to our potent offense.

Great move by the Reds, lol

[cinci4life]

(07-29-2024, 02:31 PM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: I don't have the link, but the Reds traded for another Austin Slater bat and called up a catcher today. I wonder who gets traded from the IF.

PLEASE let it be Candyass.

Wynns went on the IL

[Timanky12]

(07-29-2024, 06:13 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Wynns went on the IL

Is that because he couldn’t block a 3rd strike and prevent a run from scoring? And costing the reds the game.

[cinci4life]

May or may not have been intentional but pretty suspicious coming on the next pitch after a bomb. They had to toss him.

[cinci4life]

Montas just traded to Brewers pending a physical. No word yet on what we get back.

[Goalpost]

(07-29-2024, 10:42 PM)cinci4life Wrote: Montas just traded to Brewers pending a physical. No word yet on what we get back.

8:41pm: Cincinnati is acquiring young outfielder Joey Wiemer and veteran right-hander Jakob Junis from the Brewers in the deal, reports Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.

[SladeX]

Are we helping a division rival, or “helping” a division rival? I can’t make up my mind.

[CJD]

(07-29-2024, 10:50 PM)Goalpost Wrote: 8:41pm: Cincinnati is acquiring young outfielder Joey Wiemer and veteran right-hander Jakob Junis from the Brewers in the deal, reports Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.

I was expecting less than nothing in return for Montas, so the fact that we got back a legitimate prospect for him is impressive. 

Joey Weimer was the 90th overall prospect in 2022 and the 100th overall prospect in 2023 and was the 2nd and 3rd ranked prospect in the Brewers system in those respective years. His scouting report is big power (grade 60), great speed (grade 60), a cannon for an arm (grade 70) and above average fielding (grade 55). His major weakness is a lot of swing and miss and a high k rate to go with his below average hit tool (grade 45).

A 45/60/60/70/55 prospect is a legit piece of the future plans for any organization. It seems like he just got pushed out of Milwaukee because of the emergence of better prospects in Sal Frelick, Jackson Chourio and Blake Perkins.

He has not performed well in the majors thus far, with a career line of .201/.277/.349/.625 with a 69 OPS+. and a 28.6% strikeout rate. I'm not going to pay much attention to his line this season because it's just 26 ABs, but we'll have to see if he continues this downward trend of if he reclaims his highly touted prospect status.

There is some optimism to think that his underlying statistics are better than his stat line, since his BABIP is just .257 (MLB average is .297) which indicates he's been unlucky on balls in play. He's also got an above average hard hit % of 38.1% (MLB average is 36.7%)

At the absolute worst, he can be a platoon bat as he batted a respectable .267/.298/.517/.815 against lefties in 116 ABs last season. It looks like the Brewers were trying to use him as an everyday outfielder, as he has more ABs against righties where he batted just .175/.277/.291/.568 in 251 ABs.

So he's kind of like Stuart Fairchild with a little less contact, a little more power and an arm that actually belongs in the outfield. The major difference is Wiemer projects to be better than this. We'll see if the Reds can squeeze that potential out of him.

Right handed outfielder with some power was a need we had going into the season, so it's nice to see they added a controllable prospect that could develop into a solid piece of the outfield rotation if nothing else.

And, as an added bonus, he played for UC. So that's fun.

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(07-29-2024, 02:31 PM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: I don't have the link, but the Reds traded for another Austin Slater bat and called up a catcher today. I wonder who gets traded from the IF.

PLEASE let it be Candyass.

Ty France is a former All-Star and was a major part of Seattle's offense for several years . . . and then the wheels fell off last season. Maybe this change of scenery will spark his old self back. Besides, they get cash to help pay his salary and it only cost them a Catcher that has spent FOUR seasons bouncing between A and Rookie League.

Andruw Salcedo had 34 hits in 111 at bats his first pro season in 2021 for a .362 batting average.
He then had 34 hits the next three seasons in 212 at bats for a .160 batting average.
It gets worse, in parts of three Winter Ball seasons, he went 7 for 87 for a .083 batting average.

The Mariners cut a struggling Major Leaguer and then paid the Reds to drop off a stiff at the bus stop.

[*bengalfan74*]

Good news - Reds offense showed up for their mandatory one game out of ten. Nine hits including three HR's and scored seven runs.

Bad news - next nine games they'll average 3 hits and 1.6 runs scored. It's how they roll.