Our offensive scheme

[casear2727]

(09-09-2024, 09:29 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Glad to see you guys finally coming around

Lol, no one else here is becoming a Browns fan.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(09-09-2024, 10:22 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Lol, no one else here is becoming a Browns fan.

One guy did become a Chiefs fan yesterday though.

[casear2727]

(09-09-2024, 10:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: One guy did become a Chiefs fan yesterday though.

I can recommend a couple more that should consider joining our little guy....

[Housh]

(09-09-2024, 10:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: One guy did become a Chiefs fan yesterday though.

I wanted to laugh at Buddy so much lol

He literally said he’s done and becoming a Chiefs fan lol

With his luck this will be the year the Chiefs lose to us Sunday and then the Bills in the playoffs lol

[reuben.ahmed]

I can't imagine being a fan of anyone but the Bengals, but CJ Stroud might make me a fan if Burrow never returns to a 525 yard form.

[Bengalfan4life27c]

(09-10-2024, 12:10 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: I can't imagine being a fan of anyone but the Bengals, but CJ Stroud might make me a fan if Burrow never returns to a 525 yard form.

That game was a outlier Ravens had a bunch of never will be in their secondary due to injuries and covid.

[chopperbobby]

(09-08-2024, 11:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Our offensive scheme seems inadequate. Our wrs don't get open. The run game underperforms no matter how many lineman we bring in.

I think the issue is largely scheme. Going Cover 2 basically blows our offense up.

In our SB year, how many big plays came from Chase or Higgins making a crazy good catch or run after catch? That's not a scheme, it's relying on individual talent to overcome lack of scheme.

I saw some next generation stats and Burrow only threw 5 or 6 balls over 10 yards. Dink and dunk.

Now that Burrow is highly paid, it takes salary away from other parts of the team. So you have less veterans and more young guys to make mistakes. And our scheme doesn't help them.

KC does it every year. Last year very inexperienced recievers. Defense kept them in and receivers developed. Super Bowl. They constantly make up for losses. We lost our best run defender on one of the worst run defense and expected to be. Better. Sunday may have shown the opposite. Also I never played football and I c. Most of the time figure what they are doing. So I am sure the pros know what they are doing.

[chopperbobby]

(09-08-2024, 11:54 PM)Housh Wrote: Excuse any angry post you guys see from me about the offense but for years i thought this.

I thought the playcalling, the scheme, play designs, route combos were just bad. And when i get mad I’ll say stuff like this.


But im ngl yall i got really into watching all-22 game tape and rewatching games and 90% of the issues with our plays is the players screwing up. I would watch games and literally every bad play whether it be a pass play on offense or a run D play on defense, was because a PLAYER. Most of the plays if blocked up perfectly were good plays. Either a lineman mostly
Volson and Cappa are missing blocks due to lack of athleticism or guys are missing tackles or filling in the wrong run gaps.

It was always something. Very rarely did i feel i watched a bad playcall.

Tha many mistake is coaching. Unless it is only one player then what is he doing on the team

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(09-08-2024, 11:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Our offensive scheme seems inadequate. Our wrs don't get open. The run game underperforms no matter how many lineman we bring in.

I think the issue is largely scheme. Going Cover 2 basically blows our offense up.

In our SB year, how many big plays came from Chase or Higgins making a crazy good catch or run after catch? That's not a scheme, it's relying on individual talent to overcome lack of scheme.

I saw some next generation stats and Burrow only threw 5 or 6 balls over 10 yards. Dink and dunk.

Now that Burrow is highly paid, it takes salary away from other parts of the team. So you have less veterans and more young guys to make mistakes. And our scheme doesn't help them.

Our running game with Moss wasn't terrible and beating a cover 2 is done easily with a good running game. Burrow didn't target Chase enough,
we were in the Shotgun once again entirely too much, we played vanilla and overlooked the Patriots clearly. Of course scheme is a problem if all 
these things keep up. But expect this to change against the Chiefs this week, we will see.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(09-09-2024, 12:11 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I'm waiting for the All-22 to show up so I can watch it a little more in-depth. However, someone on Twitter has access to it. I have a little bit of confirmation bias here, but it leads me to pointing more to Burrow. Take a look at this...

First down on this drive was just as bad! How are you not looking to Chase against single high here. It's an out against bail technique. What happened on this drive? You need better QB play. pic.twitter.com/3P5eQKTvWI

— mike (@bengals_sans) September 9, 2024

 

This is a routine throw for Burrow. Instead, he doesn't even read Chase. I am not sure what this is. Is this play drawn up to not include Chase in his progressions against single high? I have a hard time believing that because that leaves a 1-on-1 with Chase. Did he not see the safety rotate down? I don't get it, but Chase is open. He has to get him that ball. 

This was the most concerning play of the day. 3rd down with the game on the line and you have a shot play against single high. Burrow doesn't even give it a chance. Panics and lowers his eyes at a non existent rush. OL was fine this was the perfect play call.

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— mike (@bengals_sans) September 9, 2024

 

I am not a huge fan of the playcall here, being third down and running double double-moves, but you have a shot here to Iosivas. He has inside leverage but with the safety shaded towards Chase, Burrow has a lot of field to throw this ball to. This is a play that he normally takes a shot on, but...he just doesn't. He panics, drops his eyes and takes a checkdown. In fact, he does the same thing in the video above. He did it all day, it felt like. He looked extremely uncomfortable all game.

I don't know what it is and I don't have a strong opinion on "scheme" or anything just yet because I haven't really seen what they are doing. What I do have an opinion on is that Burrow looked very shaky yesterday. He panicked quickly, resorted to his checkdown quickly and looked to bail even when there wasn't pressure. He had good protection yesterday. The line did their job in pass pro. 

Yes, these are a couple of the clips I saw too. Something was off with Joe.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(09-09-2024, 10:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Much like last year if burrow is hurt to the point where he's playing like Kenny Pickett we should be starting a healthy Browning. Burrow is either playing or on IR, no room for anything else it seems. 

Maybe one QB is playing within the system, and the other is not ..... perhaps overthinking it.

[Timanky12]

(09-09-2024, 01:51 PM)740Bengal Wrote: Taylor is an average offensive mind at the absolute best. The SB run may end of being a BAD thing, because Mike will keep him Burrow's entire career.

Taylor is 2 marbles rolling around in a tin can. Has no concept how to devise offensive plays. These plays are right out of high school playbook.