It was better but things I don’t get...

[Goalpost]

(09-16-2024, 01:49 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The personnel on 4th and 16

No Mike Hilton, Jordan Battle or Sam Hubbard

Daijahn Anthony inserted as DB6
Zach Carter is a waste of a player here. pic.twitter.com/WkVD5f2pYP

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) September 16, 2024

3 man rush is being mentioned frequently by the national pundits. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(09-16-2024, 01:58 PM)Goalpost Wrote: 3 man rush is being mentioned frequently by the national pundits. 

Both Carter and Ossai were clearly held on that play as well. But having Anthony in there instead of Battle or Hilton is just insane.

Don't understand it.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(09-16-2024, 12:51 PM)Whatever Wrote: So, further context on the Chase penalty, but apparently, he felt McDuffie got him with the hip drop tackle earlier in the drive and that he was face masked on the play where he blew up.

Maybe that's what Lapham was referring to....

(09-16-2024, 01:16 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Must be, don't understand, he played very good as a rookie and in Preseason and is supposed to be very smart.

Maybe he has an injury of some kind we don't know about.

This was my thought, a possible injury.

[THE PISTONS]

(09-16-2024, 02:02 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Both Carter and Ossai were clearly held on that play as well. But having Anthony in there instead of Battle or Hilton is just insane.

Don't understand it.

On the surface. I wonder if they were out tired or there was a reason around it that happened in the flow of the game.

[*ochocincos*]

(09-16-2024, 01:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: He was in for Battle or Hilton as Nicomo here shows. Inexcusable on the biggest play of the night.

It is honestly a great question, I know Battle is not known as much for his coverage but he has great instincts.

Clearly Anthony was out of his element on a couple of plays, especially the last one.


Just craziness on the biggest play of the game.

That's what I don't understand though.
I would not be having what I consider to be SAF4 as my DB6 in critical plays.

CTB, Hill, Bell, Stone, Hilton for certain.
6th would be Turner or Battle depending on the situation.

Is Hilton really not that good in coverage in a deep play like that?

[Soonerpeace]

(09-16-2024, 02:02 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Both Carter and Ossai were clearly held on that play as well. But having Anthony in there instead of Battle or Hilton is just insane.

Don't understand it.

6 DB’s I get Battle but you never know the dynamics and if he’s unhappy after being replaced by Bell. Anthony has impressed them. Good grief he’s not the first guy to DPI. Hilton isn’t the fastest DB. I don’t know. Questioning a staff that held Kelce to 1 catch for 5 yards and Mahomes to his lowest passing yards in his career as a starter seems silly ( others are ) For sure you can microscope every play.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(09-16-2024, 02:08 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: On the surface. I wonder if they were out tired or there was a reason around it that happened in the flow of the game.

Spitballing about Hilton, but maybe they anticipated a sort of hail Mary type throw and wanted a height advantage out there.... otherwise, IDK 

[THE PISTONS]

(09-16-2024, 02:13 PM)Wyche Wrote: Spitballing about Hilton, but maybe they anticipated a sort of hail Mary type throw and wanted a height advantage out there.... otherwise, IDK 

Height makes sense too.

[casear2727]

(09-16-2024, 01:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: He was in for Battle or Hilton as Nicomo here shows. Inexcusable on the biggest play of the night.

It is honestly a great question, I know Battle is not known as much for his coverage but he has great instincts.

Clearly Anthony was out of his element on a couple of plays, especially the last one.


Just craziness on the biggest play of the game.

Im afraid he wasnt "in" for Battle or Hilton, apparently on that specific alignment, Anthony is supposed to be on the field with Bell and Stone.  

[*pally*]

Why was rookie Daijahn Anthony on the field for the 4th & 16 play that resulted in the critical pass interference penalty?#Bengals Defensive Coordinator Lou Anarumo said he wanted fresh legs - prefers to use Anthony for long, rangey, zone scenarios..."I'd call that 100 out of…

— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayTV) September 16, 2024

Bengals defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo on safety Jordan Battle: "He’s going to have a role at some point for something. Maybe it’s this week, I don’t know. I’m not down on him at all."

— Ben Baby (@Ben_Baby) September 16, 2024

 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(09-16-2024, 02:08 PM)Wyche Wrote: Maybe that's what Lapham was referring to....


This was my thought, a possible injury.

From what Lou said in Pally's post it wasn't injury.

(09-16-2024, 02:08 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: On the surface. I wonder if they were out tired or there was a reason around it that happened in the flow of the game.

Fresh legs makes sense.

(09-16-2024, 02:11 PM)ochocincos Wrote: That's what I don't understand though.
I would not be having what I consider to be SAF4 as my DB6 in critical plays.

CTB, Hill, Bell, Stone, Hilton for certain.
6th would be Turner or Battle depending on the situation.

Is Hilton really not that good in coverage in a deep play like that?

Agree, Anthony must practice really well though and must be another reason for having him in there.

(09-16-2024, 02:13 PM)Wyche Wrote: Spitballing about Hilton, but maybe they anticipated a sort of hail Mary type throw and wanted a height advantage out there.... otherwise, IDK 

That is a good point for sure. Hilton is undersized.

(09-16-2024, 05:31 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Im afraid he wasnt "in" for Battle or Hilton, apparently on that specific alignment, Anthony is supposed to be on the field with Bell and Stone.  

Hmm, I hope he learns from this big time if we have to see more of Anthony.

(09-16-2024, 05:33 PM)pally Wrote:

Why was rookie Daijahn Anthony on the field for the 4th & 16 play that resulted in the critical pass interference penalty?#Bengals Defensive Coordinator Lou Anarumo said he wanted fresh legs - prefers to use Anthony for long, rangey, zone scenarios..."I'd call that 100 out of…

— Olivia Ray (@OliviaRayTV) September 16, 2024

Bengals defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo on safety Jordan Battle: "He’s going to have a role at some point for something. Maybe it’s this week, I don’t know. I’m not down on him at all."

— Ben Baby (@Ben_Baby) September 16, 2024

 

Okay, well have to trust in Anthony to grow from this as Lou sounds really high on him. Just sucks to lose in such a way.

[SunsetBengal]

I was reading that Chiefs RB Isaiah Pacheco broke his right fibula on their final drive. Now, I'm not one to wish injury on anyone, but his absence likely will be costly for that team. I haven't looked at their schedule of upcoming opponents, but you have to think that their division rivals will be looking to capitalize on a more one dimensional Chiefs offense.

[depthchart]

(09-16-2024, 01:58 PM)Goalpost Wrote: 3 man rush is being mentioned frequently by the national pundits. 

On Sunday, the Texans finished off the Bears on a 4th and 17 play where the Texans rushed 4.

I had a bad feeling the second I saw the Bengals were just rushing 3.

It made it way to easy for Mahomes to move around far to his left to buy time to make a throw downfield.

4 rushers may have kept Mahomes more stationary than what he ended up being on that play.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Yesterday, the Bengals kept an injured Tanner Hudson (knee) on the active game day roster. Hudson did not play a snap, go through pregame warmups with the tight ends or stand on the sideline with the offensive players who were subbing in and out. It's possible that Hudson was…

— Charlie Goldsmith (@CharlieG__) September 16, 2024

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(09-16-2024, 06:28 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: From what Lou said in Pally's post it wasn't injury.

Yeah, I saw that earlier on Facebook....then came to this thread and saw it again.

[Bengalsfan1]

(09-15-2024, 09:06 PM)bengalfan47 Wrote: There are tons of things that you can say win/dont win a game. The refs completley  took this game with a bs penalty that never gets called, especially on 4th and 16. You can try and be THAT GUY and pretend that it was legit. The game was over and they directly influenced the outcome with a bogus PI call.

It was not a bogus PI penalty.He clearly hit him,before the ball got there.

[Nepa]

One thing to note: the game would not have been over had a penalty not been called on 4th and 16. There were 48 seconds left and the Chiefs still had all three of their timeouts at that time. Baring a Bengals 1st down, the Chiefs could have gotten the ball back with 40 seconds or so left. They only needed 13 seconds to drive into field goal range when they beat the Bills in the playoffs.

[higgy100]

(09-18-2024, 11:22 AM)Nepa Wrote: One thing to note: the game would not have been over had a penalty not been called on 4th and 16. There were 48 seconds left and the Chiefs still had all three of their timeouts at that time. Baring a Bengals 1st down, the Chiefs could have gotten the ball back with 40 seconds or so left. They only needed 13 seconds to drive into field goal range when they beat the Bills in the playoffs.

Of course it wasn't but I'll take my chances all day with the ball snapped on the chiefs 35, a minimum of another 10-15 seconds more taken off the clock ( 3-4 seconds run per each of 3 plays run by Cincy. especially running wide a couple times) , a real possibility they even run a 4th down play on 4th and very short to either convert or take even more seconds off, a FG attempt by an excellent hot kicker with a huge leg and lastly, although very unlikely, a punt to back KC inside the 10-12 yard line.

[SladeX]

(09-15-2024, 08:52 PM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: he was 6-25-1, I will never forget that or let anyone else forget that. I still think burrow is the only reason it's turned around.

yet again in a hole where we have to rip off a 10 game win streak. no clue how, division defenses are way better than ours.

Too harsh. Without Burrow, the team played much MUCH better than 6-25-1. So, he can build a good squad outside of Burrow. That’s your barometer. In fact, didn’t the team have a better record without Burrow than with last year?

[SladeX]

To the OP. All great questions.