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Bengals training camp, hire a consultant?
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Watching NE tonight and they look like crap, got me thinking. ZT is what, 1 and 11 first two games. Obvious coming out of camp not prepared.

Should we hire an out side consultant to review our pre season/off season and advise how to get a good start? Belichick, Saban. You know a good coach. It is clear we suck the 1st two games.

I know we did good last week but still lost.
Business do this when they get stuck. And I believe the bengals are stuck the 1st two games.

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(09-19-2024, 10:35 PM)chopperbobby Wrote: Watching NE tonight and they look like crap, got me thinking. ZT is what, 1 and 11 first two games. Obvious coming out of camp not prepared.

Should we hire an out side consultant to review our pre season/off season and advise how to get a good start? Belichick, Saban. You know a good coach. It is clear we suck the 1st two games.

I know we did good last week but still lost.
Business do this when they get stuck. And I believe the bengals are stuck the 1st two games.

Who day

Zac is close enough to Sean McVay, Matt LeFleur, Doug Pederson, and Dan Campbell to get advice.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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The only thing different from this camp and camps years before under Zac is we played one drive on offense and defense in preseason. {other than Burrow not being injured} We still play two hand touch in practices and wrap our guys in bubble wrap to avoid injuries.


“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”


We the fans are insane hoping for a win in week one or two.

But anyone that knows me personally knows I am batshit crazy.

lol Hell I even hoped for wins through the 90's every damn week.
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I’d still rather get to the starting line healthy and win late in the year.
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(09-20-2024, 12:04 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I’d still rather get to the starting line healthy and win late in the year.


The Chiefs played more during preseason and had 1 guy on injury report we had like 8. I would bet they have more physical practices as well.

Injuries happen you cannot go into every season thinking we should not prepare our team for the opener, so we do not get injured.

It is not set in stone that we have knocked off the rust and jelled what if this takes 4 weeks?

We added a lot of new pieces to the puzzle this year we should have worked the bugs out when the games did not count against us.
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I would be for it, for sure. I would want to win the division/AFC so we can play at home in the playoffs. Thats a massive advantage. We play the Chiefs hard every game, but both times Mahomes beat Burrow it was in KC. It's not like Mahomes doesn't step up his play in the post season as well. It seems pretty obvious that our practices are way too soft. We have piss poor tackling and Burrow seems like the game hasn't slowed down for him until a few weeks into the season. Once we're able to drill the fundamentals into our players in the preseason I feel like we would come out way better. I'm sure there's things you can do to help with that without being brutal and have a higher chance of players being injured. I feel like Lewis went pretty hard preseason and his teams didn't have too many camp injuries.
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I'm sure Zac thought a healthy Burrow with a full camp and preseason action against 3 teams would be enough to beat NE.....

We play to the level of our competition. We'll never see a "blow out" (when have we in the Burrow era that we haven't' been on the wrong side of). It's a dangerous game that has burnt them time and time again. 
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Why would they hire someone when they can get all the advice they need here for free? Tongue Ninja
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(09-19-2024, 11:19 PM)BengalsBong Wrote: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Jesus Christ, no it isn't.

Why do people (AMERICANS) keep quoting this? This isn't a quote and it isn't the definition.
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(09-20-2024, 09:58 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Jesus Christ, no it isn't.

Why do people (AMERICANS) keep quoting this? This isn't a quote and it isn't the definition.

It's a quote from the mystery novel titled Sudden Death, written by Rita Mae Brown.
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The Patriots loss came down to not having answers for Cover 2. The thing people tend to overlook in our slow starts is each year the offensive scheme starts really disjointed and frankly lacking answers and then as the year progresses they start adding in additional answers. Listening to Rodgers talk after the Jets game about them knowing they (The Patriots) and everyone else they have played were going to use a ton of Cover 2 it required them to have answers to it and take shots to Wilson when they'd occasionally give them.

Could the tackling have been better? Sure! That said the defense only gave up 16 points and with this offense anytime the defense only gives up 16 points we should win. The issues aren't going to be fixed by changing preseason they are only going to be fixed when Taylor re evaluates they way we structure and build our offense.
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(09-20-2024, 01:13 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's a quote from the mystery novel titled Sudden Death, written by Rita Mae Brown.

People mis-attribute it as the actual definition, or a quote from Einstein, quite often. Many in fact think it's the actual definition and think it bolsters their argument. It is one of my greatest pet peeves. 

Ironically, If you keep doing things the same way you can get different results so it is factually incorrect as well which makes it all the more annoying.
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(09-20-2024, 12:04 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I’d still rather get to the starting line healthy and win late in the year.

I'd rather win the early AFC games and get homefield advantage and have the first week of the playoff off.
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(09-19-2024, 10:35 PM)chopperbobby Wrote: Should we hire an out side consultant ....

Only if the players are not putting a coversheet on their TPS reports.
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(09-20-2024, 09:30 AM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Why would they hire someone when they can get all the advice they need here for free?   Tongue  Ninja

All jokes aside, the consultant would be Mike Browns great great grand niece or something so they may as well use message board consultants. 
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(09-22-2024, 03:18 AM)XsandOs Wrote: Only if the players are not putting a coversheet on their TPS reports.

Sounds like the team may need a direct message.

Yeaaah, I'm gonna need you to start winning games at the beginning of the season.  So if you could go ahead and do that, that would be great.

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(09-20-2024, 09:58 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Jesus Christ, no it isn't.

Why do people (AMERICANS) keep quoting this? This isn't a quote and it isn't the definition.

It shows up as a bad one liner in a TV show or movie way too often.
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(09-20-2024, 01:24 PM)Au165 Wrote: People mis-attribute it as the actual definition, or a quote from Einstein, quite often. Many in fact think it's the actual definition and think it bolsters their argument. It is one of my greatest pet peeves. 

Ironically, If you keep doing things the same way you can get different results so it is factually incorrect as well which makes it all the more annoying.


I'm pretty sure there's a quote of some kind that says "Repetition is the key to perfection" or close too it. Which is alot closer to the truth. 
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A "hiring a consultant" thread might as well be a "Fire Zac and get a new head coach" thread.
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(09-22-2024, 10:35 AM)TecmoBengals Wrote: A "hiring a consultant" thread might as well be a "Fire Zac and get a new head coach" thread.

I can just hear Mike if they were to wake him long enough to ask about hiring a consultant.

What, you want to hire a consultant?  Katie, isn't that what we pay the coaches for?  I don't care if we lose every September game every year if the coffers are full of scratch.  Now, fetch me some nachos, 'Mike Brown style.'


Cottage cheese on melba toast, coming right up, Dad. 


And don't forget the Bromo-seltzer.  And the latest issue of Grit.


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