Are Rankins and Stone the worst FA haul of all time seeing the money we gave them?

[*ochocincos*]

(11-13-2024, 07:27 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: so this front office signed Rankins and Stone based off their success against cincy...

I suddenly feel void of anything

Folks like James Rapien and Joe Goodberry have been talking about that for quite a few years now.
Bengals have typically gone after dudes they've seen do well against the Bengals.

Making somewhat of a joke, but do they not have any (or look at any) game film of players aside from the Bengals games? lol

[J24]

(11-14-2024, 12:15 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Folks like James Rapien and Joe Goodberry have been talking about that for quite a few years now.
Bengals have typically gone after dudes they've seen do well against the Bengals.

Making somewhat of a joke, but do they not have any (or look at any) game film of players aside from the Bengals games? lol

In fairness alot of teams do do this as well, it's just not a Bengals thing.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(11-14-2024, 11:14 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Because he doesn't have an all pro like Kyle Hamilton filling in the gaps. 

Plus 2023 1st Team All-Pro Roquan Smith and 2023 2nd Team All-Pro Patrick Queen playing LB in front of him.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(11-14-2024, 11:16 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: To be clear, I don't think that's like as far as the evaulations go...but it really does feel like we "make note" or put an "astrisk" next to guys that play well against us that we may want to target and evaluate more in free agency. Like those are the guys that stick out to the front office and then we become bias toward them. 

Yeah, not saying the evaluation is purely against us but for it to be a fair evaluation it should be looking at their entire career against all teams.

[PDub80]

(11-13-2024, 07:27 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: so this front office signed Rankins and Stone based off their success against cincy...

I suddenly feel void of anything

They discussed what drew them to those players and those were the things mentioned consistently. I thought it was weird.

[kalibengal]

(11-13-2024, 10:45 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Odom was actually somewhat productive. 

The answer to this question is Antonio Bryant. Dude signed a 4 year 27 million dollar deal and practiced like once I believe. Comedy. 

people have yet to mention the other Trey,....Waynes that is

[lacesout87]

(11-14-2024, 06:49 PM)kalibengal Wrote: people have yet to mention the other Trey,....Waynes that is

Pretty sure that was the 3rd post in the thread lol

[THE PISTONS]

(11-13-2024, 10:19 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It was a massive shock to see Reader not re-signed. I think that the FO must have just made him an embarrassingly low offer, and when Detroit made him a fair offer he said "screw you guys" to the Bengals FO. How the Bengals came to the idea that he might sign a ridiculously low deal, possibly loaded with performance escalators given he was coming off of a second quad tear, after he had already shown the ability to recover and play well after the same serious injury previously is a bit of a head scratcher. Whatever the truth of that situation we don't know and are only to speculate. However what we do know is that the FO was obviously caught completely off guard, as they had taken no actions to sign a different NT previous to Reader signing with Detroit. They were then left holding their jocks, so to speak, as all of the quality NTs were signed by then.

Sheldon Rankins was a panic signing, and like most decisions not properly thought out, it has proven to be a waste. 

It feels like they were saving money to sign Tee...but then they decided to not sign Tee.

Nick Scott was a bad signing. Zacs 1st year they signed some scrubs too.

Never forget about Barry Foster too in this discussion.

[Bengal Dude]

(11-13-2024, 10:40 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: So I am not sure if I believe this or not...

But it REALLY seems like we target FAs that play well against us the season prior. Stone and Rankins best games of the season were against us.

It's just hilarious to me if we base our free agent evaluations on that.

I used to think it was a Marvin thing because we used to do the same thing with post TC cuts. It seemed like we always targeted players from the teams we just played in the preseason. Seems like the strategy might be a Duke thing since we switched it to free agency.