A positive - Chase Brown

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 03:15 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think the issue we have with drafting a RB is we have soo many other needs. Our defense is bad at every level. We need a WR 2. Our interior offensive line is bad.

Brown is probably good enough given those issues.

Very true. We will still need to draft a RB but probably cannot afford to do it early for a guy like Ashton Jeanty dang it all. Love this guy.

Probably have to draft Defense or Interior O-line in the first couple rounds.

(Yesterday, 03:16 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The worry with the 49ers is they have a history of taken undrafted backs and making them good. I doubt he comes here and replicates that.

My exact thoughts. Shanahan makes every RB look decent in that scheme. Wish we had a new OC that could do a shadow of that scheme.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(Yesterday, 03:16 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The worry with the 49ers is they have a history of taken undrafted backs and making them good. I doubt he comes here and replicates that.

Yeah, not fully expecting him to replicate his career 5.3ypc if he comes here, but even if he has some dropoff that's still a good number. 

I will say Jeff Wilson, Raheem Mostert, and Matt Breida left the 49ers and found some success with the Dolphins (apparently their GM just likes taking the 49ers RB depth in FA, lol). I don't think it's quite a full blown Mike Shanahan's- RBs-at-the-Broncos type situation.

Ultimately we need a new coaching staff to go with the more talent.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 03:45 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Yeah, not fully expecting him to replicate his career 5.3ypc if he comes here, but even if he has some dropoff that's still a good number. 

I will say Jeff Wilson, Raheem Mostert, and Matt Breida left the 49ers and found some success with the Dolphins (apparently their GM just likes taking the 49ers RB depth in FA, lol). I don't think it's quite a full blown Mike Shanahan's- RBs-at-the-Broncos type situation.

Ultimately we need a new coaching staff to go with the more talent.

Yes, a new coaching staff with a decent scheme and Mason might be a good add for us at RB.

[coachmcneil71]

(Yesterday, 01:58 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Pacheco isn't much bigger than Brown. Like a few lbs maybe.

I don't disagree about the size difference. Pacheco is and was considered a power back coming out of college. Not that Madden is the end all be all, but go look at what type of back Pacheco is rated as on Madden. He's considered a power back. He's powerfully built and so is Brown, but Pacheco moves piles forward while Brown has yet to discover that consistently. 

I'm not knocking the kid. He's one of my favorite players on this team. Wts, he could use a little hep! 

Jalen Hurts is a QB and is one of the most powerful dudes on the Eagles. Dude squats like a million pounds. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 05:33 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I don't disagree about the size difference. Pacheco is and was considered a power back coming out of college. Not that Madden is the end all be all, but go look at what type of back Pacheco is rated as on Madden. He's considered a power back. He's powerfully built and so is Brown, but Pacheco moves piles forward while Brown has yet to discover that consistently. 

I'm not knocking the kid. He's one of my favorite players on this team. Wts, he could use a little hep! 

Jalen Hurts is a QB and is one of the most powerful dudes on the Eagles. Dude squats like a million pounds. 

Pacheco runs crazy hard no doubt. Much more powerful than Chase Brown and yes like you I like Chase Brown a ton. Some players are just 
different. Jalen Hurts might be the most powerful running QB ever and that is why it is automatic when the Eagles run the brotherly shove.

[*ochocincos*]

(11 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Pacheco runs crazy hard no doubt. Much more powerful than Chase Brown and yes like you I like Chase Brown a ton. Some players are just 
different. Jalen Hurts might be the most powerful running QB ever and that is why it is automatic when the Eagles run the brotherly shove.

Go look up Jonah Coleman, RB at Washington. Bowling ball thumper at 5'9", 230 lbs.
At 1168 yards from scrimmage this year after 1154 last year.
I got him pegged as a Day 3 pick in my latest mock.

[Joelist]

Unless we change the scheme on offense RB picks are kinda wasted. If they get under center more, run more and actually break tendencies on play calling (so the defense has to guess a little and can't just tee off) then maybe a big power back is a good call later in the draft.

[*ochocincos*]

(10 hours ago)Joelist Wrote: Unless we change the scheme on offense RB picks are kinda wasted. If they get under center more, run more and actually break tendencies on play calling (so the defense has to guess a little and can't just tee off) then maybe a big power back is a good call later in the draft.

I would argue a Day 3 pick on a RB isn't really a waste because those picks almost amount to nothing anyway.
But I assume you are referring to a Rd 1-3 pick, right?
If so, I agree.

[TheCincinnatiKid]

I really like Chase Brown. He seems like the kind of guy who gives it everything on each play, works hard and is tenacious... definitely glad to see the season he's put together.

That said, he's not an RB1... ideally he'll be a complimentary RB2 to share the load with a 'full time' RB1. Zack Moss is not that guy, and so to my mind we ideally do some shopping for an answer at RB in the offseason.

But Chase Brown is definitely one of the (limited) positives to this season.