Tee Higgins firing his agent... Who is also Jessie Bates agent?

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(12-12-2024, 02:38 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: I really feel for Tee here if he's making decisions based on feelings and wanting to play with his friends.

He's doing himself a disservice by firing Mulghetta.

it's a lose/lose for everyone if the bengals manage to sign Tee. Way too many holes on this team to have Tee Higgins making 20+ million per year. And you know he's gonna miss 5 games at least

[Sled21]

(12-12-2024, 02:38 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: I really feel for Tee here if he's making decisions based on feelings and wanting to play with his friends.

He's doing himself a disservice by firing Mulghetta.

No he's not, Mughetta is a PITA and seems to me to be more into what's in it for him than what the athlete wants. And if Tee wants to give up a few million to play with his friends and have fun instead of making a little more money somewhere else and being miserable, then he's more than qualified to make that decision for himself. Either way, he's set for life if he's smart, so why not be happy

[NotBigzo]

(12-12-2024, 03:59 PM)Sled21 Wrote: No he's not, Mughetta is a PITA and seems to me to be more into what's in it for him than what the athlete wants. And if Tee wants to give up a few million to play with his friends and have fun instead of making a little more money somewhere else and being miserable, then he's more than qualified to make that decision for himself. Either way, he's set for life if he's smart, so why not be happy

He was Tee's agent. 

What's in it for him is also what's in it for his client. 

What are you hating on him for, because he effectively advocates for his clients and gets them paid their worth?  Because he not willing to put up with a family business lowballing his clients?

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(12-12-2024, 12:59 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ok lol.

He’s only given up 2 sacks in 13 games (847 snaps), and again, he has two of the worst guards in the entire league next to him. His run blocking is where he falls short. But that’s true of the entire OL.

Yeah, I usually agree with Wedge, but Ted is not the problem on the OL.

[Sled21]

(12-12-2024, 04:34 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: He was Tee's agent. 

What's in it for him is also what's in it for his client. 

What are you hating on him for, because he effectively advocates for his clients and gets them paid their worth?  Because he not willing to put up with a family business lowballing his clients?

That's why he has the reputation he has....

[SunsetBengal]

(12-12-2024, 04:34 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: He was Tee's agent. 

What's in it for him is also what's in it for his client. 

What are you hating on him for, because he effectively advocates for his clients and gets them paid their worth?  Because he not willing to put up with a family business lowballing his clients?

All that I can say is that business model just lost him one high profile client. 

We don't know what actually goes down in communications between the agent and team, no idea. For all we know the Bengals may have been reaching out to Mulugheta, only for their attempts to fall upon deaf ears. On the other hand, maybe the shrewd negotiator that Mulugheta is threw out a "final" offer that was just ridiculously high and the Bengals want to meet in the middle? Like I said, we have no idea as to the communications. 

What we do know is that Mulugheta also represented Jesse Bates III, and all we heard was a lot of nothing about negotiations. Seems like Higgins just wants another option that is willing to actually sit down with the team.

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The FA class is pretty limited this year.

Take this article, for example. From Pro Football Network in November.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agents-by-position/

They have DT without a true impact player at the top (BJ Hill is #4).

They say TE is the weakest position group, and have Gesicki #1.

Higgins is the #1 WR and #1 overall.

It seems like the retaining our own guys and/or the draft is clearly the way to go at DT, WR2, and TE.

Now, there are some options if we want to big game hunting at IOL and S. But not a lot.

Trey Smith (KC) and James Daniels (Pitt) are both top 15 guards in their prime. Though better run blockers than pass protectors. Zeitler is 34 but grades out at 90 at PFF. Will Fries (Indy) is more balanced. Fries (broken leg) and Daniels (Achilles) are both coming off injury.

[SunsetBengal]

(12-12-2024, 07:29 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: The FA class is pretty limited this year.

Take this article, for example. From Pro Football Network in November.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agents-by-position/

They have DT without a true impact player at the top (BJ Hill is #4).

They say TE is the weakest position group, and have Gesicki #1.

Higgins is the #1 WR and #1 overall.

It seems like the retaining our own guys and/or the draft is clearly the way to go at DT, WR2, and TE.

Now, there are some options if we want to big game hunting at IOL and S. But not a lot.

Trey Smith (KC) and James Daniels (Pitt) are both top 15 guards in their prime. Though better run blockers than pass protectors. Zeitler is 34 but grades out at 90 at PFF. Will Fries (Indy) is more balanced. Fries (broken leg) and Daniels (Achilles) are both coming off injury.

The Bengals definitely have a lengthy needs list, as far as getting back to a Superbowl quality roster. Can they make all of those moves happen, probably not. But if they even made 3 or 4 of them happen, it would go a long way. (provided that Hill and Turner return to form and play the way they were prior to injury)

[NotBigzo]

(12-12-2024, 06:21 PM)Sled21 Wrote: That's why he has the reputation he has....

Of, what, getting his clients paid? 

[NotBigzo]

(12-12-2024, 07:05 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: All that I can say is that business model just lost him one high profile client. 

We don't know what actually goes down in communications between the agent and team, no idea. For all we know the Bengals may have been reaching out to Mulugheta, only for their attempts to fall upon deaf ears. On the other hand, maybe the shrewd negotiator that Mulugheta is threw out a "final" offer that was just ridiculously high and the Bengals want to meet in the middle? Like I said, we have no idea as to the communications. 

What we do know is that Mulugheta also represented Jesse Bates III, and all we heard was a lot of nothing about negotiations. Seems like Higgins just wants another option that is willing to actually sit down with the team.

The Bengals seem to be the only team that fails to negotiate with him on a consistent basis. 

I don't have to know what goes on. The pattern is as plain as day.

[SunsetBengal]

(12-12-2024, 08:02 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: The Bengals seem to be the only team that fails to negotiate with him on a consistent basis. 

I don't have to know what goes on. The pattern is as plain as day.

Can you verify that with any actual printed material? I mean, another member did the work earlier that showed nearly half of his clients don't re-up with their originally drafted teams.

[NotBigzo]

(12-12-2024, 08:06 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Can you verify that with any actual printed material? I mean, another member did the work earlier that showed nearly half of his clients don't re-up with their originally drafted teams.

Even taking his work at face value, it doesn't mean shit in the context of my claim. It's worthless.

  A general statistic about all NFL players Mulugeta represents doesn't do anything when the claim is that the Bengals don't re-sign their own players when they're represented by him. The bengals could have a lower success rate that's unique to other NFL teams, so they could have a lower number than that figure. 

If someone wants to compile specific data comparing the Bengals retention rate to other teams; be my guest. But I won't be cleaning up someone's half-assed work for them.

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Tee is now represented by the same agent as Chase. Maybe Arceneaux is more willing to work with roster bonuses over straight guaranteed money at signing.

Rocky Arceneaux and Caitlin Aoki officially listed as Bengals WR Tee Higgins’ new agents. Both have repped WR Ja’Marr Chase.

— Ben Baby (@Ben_Baby) December 13, 2024

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I guess we as fans just have to be content with passing and receiving records rather than making playoff runs consistently

[SunsetBengal]

(12-13-2024, 03:04 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: Even taking his work at face value, it doesn't mean shit in the context of my claim. It's worthless.

  A general statistic about all NFL players Mulugeta represents doesn't do anything when the claim is that the Bengals don't re-sign their own players when they're represented by him. The bengals could have a lower success rate that's unique to other NFL teams, so they could have a lower number than that figure. 

If someone wants to compile specific data comparing the Bengals retention rate to other teams; be my guest. But I won't be cleaning up someone's half-assed work for them.

So, in other words, you got nothing. 

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Speaking of Bates, I've heard his performance has fallen off lately. I see his current PFF is 77 and he's 17th highest rated Safety. I thought he was top 1 or 2.

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(12-13-2024, 04:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Speaking of Bates, I've heard his performance has fallen off lately. I see his current PFF is 77 and he's 17th highest rated Safety. I thought he was top 1 or 2.

He was first team all pro last year. 

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(12-13-2024, 05:03 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: He was first team all pro last year. 

I got it and he was a big loss. I was just listened to a Falcon's fan on the radio the other day and he was dogging Jesse's play as of late. 

[SunsetBengal]

(12-13-2024, 05:03 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: He was first team all pro last year. 

I wonder if it's because his bloated contract prevents the Falcons from being able to pay any decent talent around him? 

[NotBigzo]

(12-13-2024, 04:04 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: So, in other words, you got nothing. 

I have two well-documented instances of the Bengals failing to retain above-average players that used him as an agent......