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Shout out for Zac Taylor
(01-06-2025, 11:13 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: We did a shuffle pass to Stanley Morgan a couple yrs ago to try and tie a game and failed and lost. After the game Morgan said he had never ran the play before as it was supposed to be Boyd but he had left with injury. The GreenBay game in 2020 we did the whole settle for a 50+ field goal in overtime but add in the fact both kickers had missed kicks and was breezy. Again these examples seem silly but they both result in game losses.
Another thing the Bengals need to change is paying the picks they hit on and early as it will save them money. I say that because a guy like Dax we know we aren't keeping Bates and turn a position that isn't a need into a pick made on need instead of talent because we knew we had to replace Bates.

The shuffle pass to Morgan was the infamous La El Collins who completely busted. He’d been feigning practice every week. He blocked the wrong guy and had he blocked the right guy Mike Brown could have scored. But Zac never called him out. As far as the McPherson FG miss he was on fire winning 2 games one in OT and one at the gun earlier the previous few games. He’d made everything he touched early in that season.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(Yesterday, 11:59 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: The shuffle pass to Morgan was the infamous La El Collins who completely busted. He’d been feigning practice every week.  He blocked the wrong guy and had he blocked the right guy Mike Brown could have scored. But Zac never called him out.  As far as the McPherson FG miss he was on fire winning 2 games one in OT and one at the gun earlier the previous few games. He’d made everything he touched early in that season.

 


Thought this was interesting perhaps we were both a bit wrong on the Morgan play. Unless Collins correct block was to take out three Ravens defenders then it just wasn't going to work. But apparently it was Callahans idea on the play. While I think that's good of Zac to lean on his staff I still think the buck stops with him. Although could be a positive sign if he now leans on people with different ideas.
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(Yesterday, 12:57 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote:  


Thought this was interesting perhaps we were both a bit wrong on the Morgan play. Unless Collins correct block was to take out three Ravens defenders then it just wasn't going to work. But apparently it was Callahans idea on the play. While I think that's good of Zac to lean on his staff I still think the buck stops with him. Although could be a positive sign if he now leans on people with different ideas.

Well I was responding that Zac potentially loses 3-5 games a year with bonehead plays or situational decisions. That’s a lot. I don’t think any way Zac would survive even Mike Brown’s wrath if that were really the case. But we will see as next year they have to turn it around. Really no excuses. They’ve got a ton of decisions monetarily and roster related. And now coaching moves.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(01-06-2025, 08:20 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: As a Miami alum, I was ready to make a similar post but you beat me to it. I followed his college days and the dude was good and clearly NFL bound.

Ditto. Not an alum but i was going to post the same. I followed his final year at Miami and he could sling the rock. He had clear cut NFL potential. 





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(Yesterday, 12:57 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote:  


Thought this was interesting perhaps we were both a bit wrong on the Morgan play. Unless Collins correct block was to take out three Ravens defenders then it just wasn't going to work. But apparently it was Callahans idea on the play. While I think that's good of Zac to lean on his staff I still think the buck stops with him. Although could be a positive sign if he now leans on people with different ideas.


I have known some pretty high level well known coaches and most know I don’t have a clue technically and love to take jabs at me. But very few people even the Goodberry’s of the world don’t know who busted on the play. There’s close to 700 offensive snaps a year. You aren’t going to hit on all of them.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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(Yesterday, 01:12 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Well I was responding that Zac potentially loses 3-5 games a year with bonehead plays or situational decisions. That’s a lot. I don’t think any way Zac would survive even Mike Brown’s wrath if that were really the case. But we will see as next year they have to turn it around. Really no excuses. They’ve got a ton of decisions monetarily and roster related. And now coaching moves.

A lot of this is just that message boards and people in general have their views "outcome based" after the fact. If it works, then he was a genius, if not, then it was a bone headed move. Just like Burrow's "Superman" throw to Higgins. I see that as ill-advised and lucky not to have been picked, but it worked so instead it was just a brilliant play. Had it been picked, people would be saying, "Why would you throw that?" Same with play calling.
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(Yesterday, 01:29 PM)Sled21 Wrote: A lot of this is just that message boards and people in general have their views "outcome based" after the fact. If it works, then he was a genius, if not, then it was a bone headed move. Just like Burrow's "Superman" throw to Higgins. I see that as ill-advised and lucky not to have been picked, but it worked so instead it was just a brilliant play. Had it been picked, people would be saying, "Why would you throw that?" Same with play calling.

Oh for sure. Let’s face it Bengal fans are on edge. And really long before ZT. The SB appearance and consecutive AFC appearances did little to accept ZT. He goes 9-8 last year with Jake Browning. Until he wins a SB he’s a JAG coach.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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The thing I have learned during Zac's tenure:

If it works it was because Burrow, if it doesn't it was cause Zac.
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The thing I have learned during Zac's tenure:

If it works it was because Burrow, if it doesn't it was cause Zac.

Hell, I've seen Burrow audible out of plays Zac called and it did not work. Guess whose fault it was,
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(Yesterday, 02:11 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The thing I have learned during Zac's tenure:

If it works it was because Burrow, if it doesn't it was cause Zac.

Hell, I've seen Burrow audible out of plays Zac called and it did not work. Guess whose fault it was,

Marvin's ?
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(Yesterday, 01:29 PM)Sled21 Wrote: A lot of this is just that message boards and people in general have their views "outcome based" after the fact. If it works, then he was a genius, if not, then it was a bone headed move. Just like Burrow's "Superman" throw to Higgins. I see that as ill-advised and lucky not to have been picked, but it worked so instead it was just a brilliant play. Had it been picked, people would be saying, "Why would you throw that?" Same with play calling.

I have to disagree with this. I try not to complain about paycalls for the most part because there is alot of nuance that we may not be aware. My issue is more situational football like plays you decide to take the football out of Burrows hands is usually the issue. We don't want to commit to the run game for the most part and then pick some very odd times to take it out of his hands. Then even when we do, we do odd things like bring Chase into the back field and then still run up the middle, after bringing all eyes into the backfield. I don't care about mistakes by players unless it becomes a continuous issue. 
The offense hasn't been our problem and I wasn't expecting them to move on or even hoping for it. I just think there are concerns with him still that may ultimately prevent us from a championship. But I am having a hard time thinking of too many situational issues we had this year so maybe it's improving or maybe the defense was so trash it's hard narrowing games down to just 1 or 2 issues.
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(Yesterday, 02:11 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The thing I have learned during Zac's tenure:

If it works it was because Burrow, if it doesn't it was cause Zac.

Hell, I've seen Burrow audible out of plays Zac called and it did not work. Guess whose fault it was,

People just don't like criticism. Burrow is the one on the field going thru the reads scrambling in the pocket extending plays and usually delivering an accurate pass. Does he get a ton of credit yes is he a bigger part of the offensive success compared to Zac I think the answer is yes. But that doesn't mean Zac doesn't get credit for his route concepts or when they are called. Early season struggles are pointed at the coach when looking back but during it when Burrow is dropping his eyes and checking down too frequently nobody is saying Zac is calling these plays. We may all say we need to lessen his burden earlier in the season or more preseason work when healthy. What I've complained about is the times we've decided to take the ball away from Burrow or the weird play designs we've come up with when we do take it out of his hands. Hard to criticize the wrong person in those areas.
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(Yesterday, 02:43 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: People just don't like criticism. Burrow is the one on the field going thru the reads scrambling in the pocket extending plays and usually delivering an accurate pass. Does he get a ton of credit yes is he a bigger part of the offensive success compared to Zac I think the answer is yes. But that doesn't mean Zac doesn't get credit for his route concepts or when they are called. Early season struggles are pointed at the coach when looking back but during it when Burrow is dropping his eyes and checking down too frequently nobody is saying Zac is calling these plays. We may all say we need to lessen his burden earlier in the season or more preseason work when healthy. What I've complained about is the times we've decided to take the ball away from Burrow or the weird play designs we've come up with when we do take it out of his hands. Hard to criticize the wrong person in those areas.

But yet Aikman went on and on why Zac doesn’t take the ball out of Joe’s hands. And understands.why. He said it in the Steelers game. The run game has sucked. Zac May give up on the run game but who could blame him. Don’t you think his and the staff’s  scheming of Chase was outstanding this year? Joe had his best year? Yet the OL was still ranked 30th. Yet the offense was 6th. The offense balled out. 
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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The Bengals offense ran 1080 plays in 2024 or 63.5 plays per game. Our defense had 1088 plays or 64 per game.

Offense averaged 382 yards a game and defense gave up 361 game.

Many consider our offense elite (top 6 is very good). But our defense gave up only less 21 yards per game than our elite offense.

Many want to blame Zac for one or 2 bad play calls per game yet ignore the 61 plays a game he got right.

Our offense has an average to poor OL. Our run gun is average at best. Our defense was the issue in both 2023 and 2024. I place the blame on the FO and the defensive coaching staff.

Why blow up the entire team because we missed the playoffs by one game 2 years in a row. The FO should have addressed LG and the defensive talent issues.

I am glad to see they addressed Lou and Pollack albeit both a year late.

Now let's hope Zac and the FO bring in major coaching upgrades in 2025 and address the guard position and DL + safety in FA.
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2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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(Yesterday, 11:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Yes he was, otherwise he would have been playing for Ohio State (Penitentiary) 

Yeah, I recall an article from an Oxford paper that maintained he picked Miami over OSU because the OSU people got his last name wrong.
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(Yesterday, 03:29 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: But yet Aikman went on and on why Zac doesn’t take the ball out of Joe’s hands. And understands.why. He said it in the Steelers game. The run game has sucked. Zac May give up on the run game but who could blame him. Don’t you think his and the staff’s  scheming of Chase was outstanding this year? Joe had his best year? Yet the OL was still ranked 30th. Yet the offense was 6th. The offense balled out. 

I really don't put much stock in what the commentators say during the game. They load up on info in the lead up to the game for talking points. Like I'm pretty sure the one of the halftime analysts mentioned at halftime Pitt needed to run more because we couldn't stop anybody all year which isn't really true as RBs are concerned. Again I never said I wanted Zac gone or that I wasn't happy with the offense. He has never really seemed to be too interested in establishing the running game but this may hopefully change some with a new Oline coach atleast be more effective. Chase Brown was on my fantasy team so I was very happy with him.
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