(Yesterday, 12:46 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I think what people are getting on you about is the fact that you are saying "there was LITERALLY no indicator he would be good".
He was the 11th overall pick brother. I can understand sometimes people use hyperbole and that's cool. However, you are trying to be serious and say that he literally had nothing suggesting that he would be a good QB. Real NFL scouts and coaches reviewed the tape and saw something so there was indication to folks who do their job that he could be a good QB. Hell, popular draft pundits like Mel Kiper and WalterFootball also liked the Ben pick. It wasn't a pick out of left field.
I either read or saw something, maybe a YT vid of Cowher talking to Ben about it. There was apparently some discussion on just who wanted who. The "rumor" was that Cowher and...i forget the GM...wanted to go with a guard and the owner wanted Ben. Supposedly, the owner even said he walked in and wanted Ben. Cowher clarified that, yes, they knew they needed Oline--and he believed they were going that way--because they only viewed Manning and Rivers as day one starters and they didn't feel there was any way either would be there when they picked.
They viewed Ben as someone that would need to sit for a year, but they thought he had some talent. When the internal talk shifted to the possiblity of Ben, Cowher went back and watched his games, said something along the lines of he had a chip on his shoulder and would like to get to know him better, so they brought him in for a workout. He impressed them with that workout and continuted to do so in training camp. So, when the draft came, they felt he had the potential and he continued to impress them in TC.
Cowher said the owner had every right to embellish the story, since he was the owner, but the truth of the matter was, they changed their sights as the process went on and went with him over the Oline help they needed at the time and it was a group decision, not the owner coming into a meeting and saying "we're taking this guy".
My personal feelings are that he was a really good QB at Miami, as i said i watched him that last year, and he had real potential to be a good QB in the NFL.
I don't really remember anyone here even saying something like "can't miss", nor anyone, anywhere, at any time.
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