First 1-on-1 rep I saw from @CanesFootball ED Tyler Baron. Nice cross chop with a good finish
— Trevor Sikkema (@TampaBayTre) January 25, 2025
It’s a deep edge class, but he’s a guy who is going too under the radar imo. 91.6 @PFF pass rush grade on true pass sets this past season pic.twitter.com/Lvthyjclxi
Scouting the All-Star Games
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01-25-2025, 12:57 PM
East West Shrine Coverage is meh production but the reps we have gotten to see from Miami Edge Tyler Baron in 1 on 1s and team drills are awesome.
01-25-2025, 07:25 PM
01-26-2025, 12:58 PM
CJ West showing a bag of pass rush moves two days in a row. Downside is he isn't showing much thump with his hands on run plays in the team drills. I haven't watched him yet at Indiana so it's something to look for.
Another DT ro watch Jordan Phillips is dense explosive and violent but is just trying to win with those traits and no technique.
01-26-2025, 01:00 PM
Again East West Shrine practice coverage can be found on an App called Lights Out Sports. Free with no sign up just download and watch... iffy production quality.
Yesterday, 10:40 AM
Princely Umanmielen at 6'4.3 264lbs and 34.28 inch arms and Jayden Higgins at 6'3.6 217 33.28 inch arms are great measureables for those guys. Both Membou and Savaiinaea with 34 and 34.58 inch arms is a win for OT class.
I'll repeat it all off-season. If they want to replace Tee Higgins Jayden Higgins is the guy (other than Tetairoa McMillian lol).
Yesterday, 11:44 AM
(Yesterday, 10:40 AM)Synric Wrote: Princely Umanmielen at 6'4.3 264lbs and 34.28 inch arms and Jayden Higgins at 6'3.6 217 33.28 inch arms are great measureables for those guys. Both Membou and Savaiinaea with 34 and 34.58 inch arms is a win for OT class. Princely is a guy I've had my eye on. Interesting that he's at 264 after being listed at 255. It will be interesting if he can keep that burst and bend at that weight.
Yesterday, 01:00 PM
(Yesterday, 11:44 AM)Whatever Wrote: Princely is a guy I've had my eye on. Interesting that he's at 264 after being listed at 255. It will be interesting if he can keep that burst and bend at that weight. Yea he has similar measureables to Joseph Ossai and might test similar too. Makes me feel a little better about him maybe starting at LDE but I wouldn't say power/gap control is a strength of his game.
Yesterday, 02:18 PM
(Yesterday, 01:00 PM)Synric Wrote: Yea he has similar measureables to Joseph Ossai and might test similar too. Makes me feel a little better about him maybe starting at LDE but I wouldn't say power/gap control is a strength of his game. I think he starts out as a rotational pass rusher. His run D is not good.
Yesterday, 05:09 PM
Walter Nolen hits the arm length threshold. He's in play for pick #17. Chaos Merchant.
Yesterday, 05:57 PM
Omar Norman-Lott shorter but good length and massive hands.
Yesterday, 05:59 PM
TJ Sanders lighter but it was expected.
Yesterday, 06:19 PM
(01-26-2025, 12:58 PM)Synric Wrote: CJ West showing a bag of pass rush moves two days in a row. Downside is he isn't showing much thump with his hands on run plays in the team drills. I haven't watched him yet at Indiana so it's something to look for. Yeah I read CJ West was dominating down there. He would be a good 3T for us later in the draft. I've been on him for a while now.
Yesterday, 06:50 PM
(Yesterday, 05:57 PM)Synric Wrote: Omar Norman-Lott shorter but good length and massive hands. There was a pretty good 6'1" 3 tech that played here for years named Geno. I do like ONL a lot.
Yesterday, 07:23 PM
ESPN takes
Give us one prediction for Senior Bowl week. Reid: Azareye'h Thomas will have a Quinyon Mitchell-like week that will result in his draft stock rising into the top-20 range. He has plenty of length at 6-foot-2, 198 pounds, and Thomas' ability as a true press man corner will shine in one-on-one drills. I currently have him as my No. 7 CB with an early second-round grade. He'll easily enter the Round 1 discussion after a solid week. Miller: Jaxson Dart will start his climb into the first round. A talented passer with a good arm, good mobility and great production under Kiffin, Dart is my pick to fill the quarterback void after Miami's Cam Ward and Colorado's Shedeur Sanders. Scouts have praised Dart for being a competitor and love his experience. Much like Bo Nix last year, Dart could push his way into the first round with a good pre-draft process. Yates: Xavier Restrepo will own the one-on-one drills. We'll dive deeper into a list of "our guys" as we get closer to the draft, but the Miami receiver is a lock to be on mine. He might be undersized at 5-10, 198 pounds, but Restrepo is also uncoverable -- his combination of quick movement, precise footwork and strength to get off defenders helped him become Miami's all-time leader in receptions and receiving yards. I see a lot of Amon-Ra St. Brown in Restrepo's game. 2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
Yesterday, 07:31 PM
More ESPN takes
Which prospect are you most excited to see in Mobile? Reid: Armand Membou, OT, Missouri. He was one of the most impressive prospects I saw in person this past season. At 6-foot-3, 314 pounds, Membou doesn't have prototypical tackle measurements but does have brute strength and good foot quickness. He doesn't get beat cleanly on pass protection reps, and he gave up only one sack in 2024. Editor's Picks Could Kyle McCord join the Day 2 conversation? Predicting NFL draft prospects who could rise this spring 2dJordan Reid Miller's updated top 50 NFL draft rankings: New No. 1 prospect? Players to watch at the Senior Bowl? 3dMatt Miller Kiper's debut NFL mock draft for 2025: Predicting every first-round pick and QB landing spots 5dMel Kiper Jr. There will be questions about where Membou will play at the next level, as some evaluators see him as a guard. I think he should be allowed to stay at tackle until he shows otherwise, but this week could be a good indicator of where Membou will ultimately play. In a class without a clear-cut OT1, Membou could position himself as the top offensive lineman in the 2025 draft. Miller: Josh Conerly Jr., OT, Oregon. Conerly is one of my favorite players in the class, and I can't wait to see how he handles drills and one-on-one pass-rushing situations at the Senior Bowl. The 6-4, 315-pound Conerly has developed into a pure left tackle and has added strength to his quick feet to shoot up draft boards. Conerly is my No. 18-ranked player and has a firm mid-Round 1 grade. I'll be looking to see how his added play power stands up against a deep group of defensive linemen, but there's room for him to rise. Yates: Marcus Mbow, OT/G, Purdue. Mbow is arguably the most athletic lineman in the 2025 class. He played right tackle for the Boilermakers in 2024, but he also played guard in college and projects as a guard in the NFL due to his size (6-5, 300 pounds). He's a natural mover who is an ideal fit for a team that employs zone concepts in its run game. I believe Mbow is a top-50 player in this class due to his fearlessness and tenaciousness, along with his ability to play under control when blocking in space. 2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
Yesterday, 07:36 PM
More ESPN
Article, but may need ESPN+ so why I copied and pasted also https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insider/story/_/id/43573648/2025-senior-bowl-nfl-draft-prospects-qbs-predictions Which Day 3 prospect has the best chance to rise in this week's practices? Reid: Devin Neal, RB, Kansas. In a class that might have more than 30 running backs drafted, Neal is one of my favorites. At 5-foot-11, 215 pounds, Neal is a stout rusher who provides a versatile threat out of the backfield. He fits multiple schemes, with the ability to be a one-cut-and-accelerate player in zone-based systems while also having the patience and vision to run behind pulling guards in a gap-based run scheme. He's also a natural pass catcher with upside as a receiver out of the backfield. I have a fourth-round grade on Neal, but a strong week of practice could get him into the third round. What to know for the 2025 NFL draft • Mocks: Kiper | Reid | Yates | Miller • Rankings: Kiper | Miller | Reid | Yates • 10 questions | QB Board | Pos. ranks • Pick order | Scouting evals | More Miller: Clay Webb, OT/C, Jacksonville State. Webb originally signed with Georgia out of high school before transferring and finding a home with Jacksonville State. Scouts love his power and positional versatility, as many project him to move to center in the NFL. Like most small-school prospects, the 6-3, 310-pound Webb needs to show the movement skills and strength necessary to match up against top-tier defensive linemen. I'll be watching that this week. If Webb can replicate his tape from the past two seasons, he will be this year's small-school riser. Yates: Caleb Rogers, OT/G, Texas Tech. My sense is that Rogers is hovering on the late Day 2/early Day 3 border, so this week might be more about solidifying his draft stock and position. The 6-5, 310-pound Rogers started a ton of games at left tackle (18 starts) and right tackle (39) but projects as an interior player in the NFL. His raw power is hard to ignore, and I believe it will show up enough to solidify his top-100 standing. Which QB has the best chance to emerge as the class' QB3 with a big week? Reid: Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss. There's a lot of buzz about Dart entering the week, and he would be my QB3 if the draft was today. "I'm interested to see him outside of that scheme with [Lane] Kiffin because everything's so manufactured with where he's supposed to go," one AFC director of college scouting said. "I think the traits are good and there's always one guy that surges up after the all-star circuit." To the director's point, 34.2% of Dart's passes this season were deemed as wide-open passing attempts, 11th highest in the FBS among all signal-callers. Can the 6-2, 225-pound Dart consistently see, read and execute NFL-level progressions? That will be the major question that scouts want to get answered in Mobile. If so, Dart has a chance to rise into the Round 2 discussions, but there are scouts who already have him in that range prior to the Senior Bowl. Name one late-round sleeper quarterback who could put himself on the radar. Yates: Dillon Gabriel, Oregon. It's important to acknowledge that QB value is derived in large part from schematic fit. Gabriel won't fit every team, but the 6-foot, 200-pound signal-caller has high-end traits that several teams will be enamored with in April. He plays urgently with a lightning-quick release and is an excellent runner for the position (19 rushing touchdowns over the past two seasons). He has 63 starts of experience, which should make teams feel more comfortable about how he'll adjust to the next level. play 1:10 Dillon Gabriel's 4 TDs lead Oregon past Penn State for Big Ten titleDillon Gabriel shines with four touchdown passes as Oregon claims the Big Ten championship over Penn State. Which position group are you most looking forward to watching? Miller: This is the best defensive line group I've seen in the 15 years I've attended the Senior Bowl. Ole Miss' Walter Nolen and Princely Umanmielen plus Texas A&M's Shemar Stewart are first-round talents and headline a group that has 11 players ranked among my top 65 prospects. Marshall's speedy edge rusher Mike Green, the FBS leader in sacks in 2024 (17.0), is another player to watch. This group is stacked and versatile, with quick, smaller edge players and big, strong defensive tackles such as Texas' Alfred Collins and Kentucky's Deone Walker. The defensive line is the strength of the 2025 draft class, and it will be well represented in Mobile. How does the offensive line crop look? Yates: I think there are at least three O-linemen in Mobile who will end up going in the first round -- Conerly, Membou and Arizona's Jonah Savaiinaea. I expect that many of the prospects practicing this week will be future NFL starters. One thing I will be watching with this group is which players take reps at positions that they didn't primarily play in college. Membou, Savaiinaea, Rogers and Mbow are among the many linemen who could fit in that category. How would you stack the receivers in Mobile? Reid: There isn't a marquee Round 1 name in this Senior Bowl group, but there's a good mixture of potential Day 2 and 3 prospects. My highest-ranked receiver is Iowa State's Jayden Higgins, who is a long-striding player with a tremendous catch radius that allows him to easily grab passes outside of his frame. Miami's Xavier Restrepo and Utah State's Jalen Royals are two more to keep an eye on, as they are fluid route runners who can create separation with ease. I have Round 3 grades on both, and I expect their route running and yards-after-catch ability to stand out. Who are some defensive backs you'll be watching this week? Miller: Trey Amos (Ole Miss), Maxwell Hairston (Kentucky) and Azareye'h Thomas (Florida State) are my three top-ranked defensive backs in Mobile. Amos is a fringe first-rounder who is physical and feisty as a man coverage cornerback but must show the speed to carry wide receivers down the field. Hairston was awesome against Texas but battled injury this season -- how does he look after having a month to recuperate? And Thomas was a standout on a bad Seminoles team, and there's love for him in the scouting community thanks to his height (6-2) and youth (20 years o Which prospect in attendance can answer the most questions about his game this week? Reid: Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky. Walker was viewed as a first-round pick entering this season but saw his sack total slip from 7.5 in 2023 to 1.5 this past season. Walker's 6-foot-6, 345-pound frame gives him an alarmingly high pad level, which affects his run defense. His pass-rushing ability isn't in question, but the run defense and pad level must improve to boost his current Round 2 grade. Walker will get an opportunity to show whether his lower-body strength and run defense have improved. Miller: Mike Green, Edge, Marshall. Green was a sack master for the Thundering Herd off the corner of the defense. But can he hold up against the run at 6-4, 248 pounds? Green will be heavily watched all week, and his weigh-in might be as important as his practice performance. When facing top-end offensive tackles -- especially those known for their run game power -- can Green disengage and make plays? Green was recently in the first round of Mel Kiper's new mock draft but still ranks outside my opening round. This week will answer plenty of question Yates: Shemar Stewart, Edge, Texas A&M. How often is a prospect who had 4.5 sacks in three college seasons discussed as a likely first-round pick? Rarely. But that is what makes the next few months, starting with Senior Bowl week, so important for Stewart. His physical attributes are hard to find. He moves easily for a 6-6, 285-pound player, with strength and explosion that catch your attention. Is he a flash player, or can he develop into a much more consistent rush presence? If he shows the latter in Mobile, it'll be hard for him to last beyond the first 15 to 20 picks. 2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
Today, 10:32 AM
(Today, 02:26 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Yahya Black is much bigger than I thought 6"5/339 with 35" arms and 10" hands He is massive on film. He probably gained 20lbs throughout the season. He is a massive technically refined NT that controls blockers at the line. Better lateral quicks than I expected.
Today, 10:36 AM
(Yesterday, 06:19 PM)pulses Wrote: Yeah I read CJ West was dominating down there. He would be a good 3T for us later in the draft. I've been on him for a while now. I watched a couple Indiana games all-22 last night (just got the CFP film). CJ West plays both NT and 3T I was right he doesn't have alot of thump in his hands but it doesn't matter because he is experienced and generates power/anchor from his core. He's a smart run defender understanding that the Offense is doing and gets into position quickly. I see a BJ Hill type player from CJ West. Consistency more than splash plays. Bengals could use a little consistency on their DL. Late Day 2 guy.
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(Today, 10:36 AM)Synric Wrote: I watched a couple Indiana games all-22 last night (just got the CFP film). CJ West plays both NT and 3T I was right he doesn't have alot of thump in his hands but it doesn't matter because he is experienced and generates power/anchor from his core. He's a smart run defender understanding that the Offense is doing and gets into position quickly. We need to fix the trenches now. I understand this is a draft thread, but can we count on any of these guys that have been mentioned at DT being a plug and play and replacing Hill (not signed) and or Rankins if we cut him? Or do you see them as potential starters in 2 to 3 years? 2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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