Donovan Jackson

[Jpoore]

My dream 2nd round pick(along with sawyer) but man what Donovan Jackson has done as a LG playing LT is remarkable. Already an all American at LG, he’s been at LT and has been absolutely dominant. Would immediately shore up the LG spot and could kick out to play LT in a pinch

[Luvnit2]

Some of us are not OSU fans. I thought he was an OSU OL but was not certain.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4431553/donovan-jackson

I hope we get vets at guard and then pick players like Jackson to compete for the starting job. I hate relying on rookies at OL and DL simply because the vets are older and normally stronger than 21- and 22-year-olds.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-13-2025, 02:13 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Some of us are not OSU fans. I thought he was an OSU OL but was not certain.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4431553/donovan-jackson

I hope we get vets at guard and then pick players like Jackson to compete for the starting job. I hate relying on rookies at OL and DL simply because the vets are older and normally stronger than 21- and 22-year-olds.

Jackson would be worth a 2nd-3rd round pick. He really is an All-American level Guard who transitioned seamlessly to LT when the starter and 1st backup both went down for the season. His footwork has continued to improve with every game he plays at LT, I think that he would have little problem pickup up stunts in the NFL and would be hard to beat for the starting LG job.

[Whatever]

A growing issue with Jackson is he has played so well at T, some teams may see him that way going forward, which will up his stock. It is a pretty miserable OL class, overall.

[SunsetBengal]

(01-13-2025, 04:12 PM)Whatever Wrote: A growing issue with Jackson is he has played so well at T, some teams may see him that way going forward, which will up his stock.  It is a pretty miserable OL class, overall.

That is a good point and one I hadn't really considered.

[Luvnit2]

(01-13-2025, 02:49 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Jackson would be worth a 2nd-3rd round pick. He really is an All-American level Guard who transitioned seamlessly to LT when the starter and 1st backup both went down for the season. His footwork has continued to improve with every game he plays at LT, I think that he would have little problem pickup up stunts in the NFL and would be hard to beat for the starting LG job.

Maybe if we pass on guard with pick 17, he is there with pick 49.

As I look at the draft rankings, this is the most defensive highly ranked draft I have seen in a long time. the 2 QB's (Ward and Sanders) at the top are hardly can't miss franchise QB's. Melrose is third on many sites but is he a solid #1 pick or will he go round 1 as too many QB needy teams. This may be the weakest QB class in a very long time with a long list of QB needy teams.

The other big offensive positions OT and WR lack those sure fire can't miss options as well. Is Hunter a CB or a WR? After Hunter (if he is a WR), I don't see a Chase, Jefferson option. 

It may be an interesting draft. I see teams reaching in round 1, I hope we are not one of them.

[pulses]

(01-13-2025, 07:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe if we pass on guard with pick 17, he is there with pick 49.

As I look at the draft rankings, this is the most defensive highly ranked draft I have seen in a long time. the 2 QB's (Ward and Sanders) at the top are hardly can't miss franchise QB's. Melrose is third on many sites but is he a solid #1 pick or will he go round 1 as too many QB needy teams. This may be the weakest QB class in a very long time with a long list of QB needy teams.

The other big offensive positions OT and WR lack those sure fire can't miss options as well. Is Hunter a CB or a WR? After Hunter (if he is a WR), I don't see a Chase, Jefferson option. 

It may be an interesting draft. I see teams reaching in round 1, I hope we are not one of them.

The closest thing I've read about anyone being close to size wise and speed wise and built liike Chase is Jalen Royals. But the potential problem with him is the competition he played against. We'll get a better idea of him after the senior bowl I guess.

[*bfine32*]

Sounds good then get

3rd: Tiliek Williams/DT

4th: Sonny Styles/S

5th: Will Howard/QB

6th: Gene Scott/TE

[Whatever]

(01-13-2025, 07:05 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe if we pass on guard with pick 17, he is there with pick 49.

As I look at the draft rankings, this is the most defensive highly ranked draft I have seen in a long time. the 2 QB's (Ward and Sanders) at the top are hardly can't miss franchise QB's. Melrose is third on many sites but is he a solid #1 pick or will he go round 1 as too many QB needy teams. This may be the weakest QB class in a very long time with a long list of QB needy teams.

The other big offensive positions OT and WR lack those sure fire can't miss options as well. Is Hunter a CB or a WR? After Hunter (if he is a WR), I don't see a Chase, Jefferson option. 

It may be an interesting draft. I see teams reaching in round 1, I hope we are not one of them.

There isn't a guard I would even consider taking in Round 1.  The closest would be taking Kelvin Banks and sticking him at LG for two years to develop.  He won't make it to 17, though.

The only offensive players that might realistically be there at 17 that I would be happy with would be Jeanty, Warren, or Loveland.  Jeanty isn't a need with Brown emerging, but he's a special talent and you can always find touches for RB's.  Warren and Loveland are TE's that can line up anywhere and really open the offense up.  

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 10:37 AM)Whatever Wrote: There isn't a guard I would even consider taking in Round 1.  The closest would be taking Kelvin Banks and sticking him at LG for two years to develop.  He won't make it to 17, though.

The only offensive players that might realistically be there at 17 that I would be happy with would be Jeanty, Warren, or Loveland.  Jeanty isn't a need with Brown emerging, but he's a special talent and you can always find touches for RB's.  Warren and Loveland are TE's that can line up anywhere and really open the offense up.  

I know Loveland is ranked high, but I don't see a great TE in the NFL. On the other hand, Warren has shown as a great TE blocker, can line up at QB or at fullback and has shown an ability to be a matchup nightmare. Maybe Loveland can do some of those things, but I have not seen it.

I would rather reach for a DT like Harmon or trade back than pick Loveland in round 1.

[Jpoore]

(01-13-2025, 04:12 PM)Whatever Wrote: A growing issue with Jackson is he has played so well at T, some teams may see him that way going forward, which will up his stock. It is a pretty miserable OL class, overall.

I agree.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 10:58 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I know Loveland is ranked high, but I don't see a great TE in the NFL. On the other hand, Warren has shown as a great TE blocker, can line up at QB or at fullback and has shown an ability to be a matchup nightmare. Maybe Loveland can do some of those things, but I have not seen it.

I would rather reach for a DT like Harmon or trade back than pick Loveland in round 1.

Loveland has a larger route tree and much more upside as a receiver while Warren's upside is as a blocker and underneath receiver with good YAC. 

[*Synric*]

(01-13-2025, 08:24 PM)pulses Wrote: The closest thing I've read about anyone being close to size wise and speed wise and built liike Chase is Jalen Royals. But the potential problem with him is the competition he played against. We'll get a better idea of him after the senior bowl I guess.

While not built the same Savion Williams WR TCU has the Ja'Marr Chase play style. Physical contest catch receiver, effortlessly fast, and high end YAC skills. Just not nearly the nuisanced route runner.

[Whatever]

(Yesterday, 10:58 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I know Loveland is ranked high, but I don't see a great TE in the NFL. On the other hand, Warren has shown as a great TE blocker, can line up at QB or at fullback and has shown an ability to be a matchup nightmare. Maybe Loveland can do some of those things, but I have not seen it.

I would rather reach for a DT like Harmon or trade back than pick Loveland in round 1.

The draft is too deep at Edge and DT for me to want to reach for one.

Loveland looks like another Brock Bowers. Kid is just so smooth as an athlete.  If he can put on another 10 pounds of muscle and keep that athleticism, he's going to be frightening.  

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 11:35 AM)Synric Wrote: Loveland has a larger route tree and much more upside as a receiver while Warren's upside is as a blocker and underneath receiver with good YAC. 

I am no expert, but my prediction is Warren has ceiling of a superstar and floor of very good. Loveland has a ceiling of very good and a floor of average.

We will see how they do in their respective careers, but I see Warren being closer to a great like Kelcie.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 12:26 PM)Whatever Wrote: The draft is too deep at Edge and DT for me to want to reach for one.

Loveland looks like another Brock Bowers. Kid is just so smooth as an athlete.  If he can put on another 10 pounds of muscle and keep that athleticism, he's going to be frightening.  

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4723086/colston-loveland

He regressed in 2024 stat wise. Warren got much better. I just don't see him close to Bowers or a 1st round pick that is a slam dunk.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 11:35 AM)Synric Wrote: Loveland has a larger route tree and much more upside as a receiver while Warren's upside is as a blocker and underneath receiver with good YAC. 

Sounds like the perfect TE for the Zac Taylor offense.

[Whatever]

(Yesterday, 12:50 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4723086/colston-loveland

He regressed in 2024 stat wise. Warren got much better. I just don't see him close to Bowers or a 1st round pick that is a slam dunk.

Losing a QB drafted in the Top 10 and replacing him with a cancer survivor will do that to individual production.

I'm not going to knock Warren as a prospect, because I like him, too.  But no need to tear down Loveland, either.  Both would look great in stripes.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 12:46 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I am no expert, but my prediction is Warren has ceiling of a superstar and floor of very good. Loveland has a ceiling of very good and a floor of average.

We will see how they do in their respective careers, but I see Warren being closer to a great like Kelcie.

Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland are two completely different players. Warren is Germaine Gresham and Loveland is Tyler Eifert both very good players but different.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 12:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Sounds like the perfect TE for the Zac Taylor offense.

Definitely he would slot right into Erick All's role. Multiple blocking alignments with alot of underneath hooks and flairs that can turn into the occasional wheel and seem off them. It's the blocking, YAC, and redzone basketball background that makes Warren the biggest threat.