ESPN Predicts That We Trade For Kyle Pitts!

[SunsetBengal]

(01-18-2025, 08:24 PM)bfine32 Wrote: He had 1 year from Matty Ice and went for over 1,000 yards.


Folks like to do what-ifs: Would Jamar have his same numbers if ATL had taken him at #4? 

I'd like to think that Pitts would enjoy similar success with Joe Burrow sending balls his way.

What if's are always complicated. I'm pretty sure that Jamarr Chase would have been a hit no matter the team he landed with.

[*Synric*]

(01-18-2025, 08:24 PM)bfine32 Wrote: He had 1 year from Matty Ice and went for over 1,000 yards.


Folks like to do what-ifs: Would Jamar have his same numbers if ATL had taken him at #4? 

Ja'Marr YAC and deep ball speed would show up anywhere but triple crown? No.


Like Mike Tomlin said Joe Burrow is going to get everyone around him paid. It isn't crazy to think a unicorn like Kyle Pitts could put up career numbers with Joe.

[007BengalsFan]

(01-18-2025, 07:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Has he ever had the opportunity to catch passes from a franchise QB like Joe Burrow?

He was on the team with the #5 ranked passing offense this year so somebody was able to catch balls for Atlanta.   Isnt it hard to use the excuse you didnt put up better stats because the QBs arent that good when your offense is ranked in the top 5?

[*jason*]

(01-18-2025, 11:20 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: He was on the team with the #5 ranked passing offense this year so somebody was able to catch balls for Atlanta.   Isnt it hard to use the excuse you didnt put up better stats because the QBs arent that good when your offense is ranked in the top 5?

Darnell Mooney struggled to much of anything in Chicago. Probably mixture of bad coaching and QB play. He had a fine season in Atlanta. Some guy named Rae Rae who was a Steelers cast off pretty much matched Pitts' output this year too. Atlanta invested pretty heavily in Bijan, Drake London, and Pitts. It sounds silly to me that they wouldn't be "using Pitts right" after that kind of investment. He wouldn't be the first top 5 guy to not live up to the hype... Again, of the guys taken that high in 2021, I'd say Chase is the only one to back it up on the field. Several guys taken later have excelled too.

[*bfine32*]

(Yesterday, 12:00 PM)jason Wrote: Darnell Mooney struggled to much of anything in Chicago. Probably mixture of bad coaching and QB play. He had a fine season in Atlanta. Some guy named Rae Rae who was a Steelers cast off pretty much matched Pitts' output this year too. Atlanta invested pretty heavily in Bijan, Drake London, and Pitts. It sounds silly to me that they wouldn't be "using Pitts right" after that kind of investment. He wouldn't be the first top 5 guy to not live up to the hype... Again, of the guys taken that high in 2021,  I'd say Chase is the only one to back it up on the field. Several guys taken later have excelled too.

IDK that RT in DET is working out pretty good and that CB from DEN might work out

[*jason*]

(Yesterday, 12:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: IDK that RT in DET is working out pretty good and that CB from DEN might work out

I was talking strictly top 5. That was a pretty good draft class too to bottom. But Chase was the first guy off the board that lived up to it... Trevor Lawrence's salary not withstanding... I kinda like that pass rusher in Dallas.

[Fan_in_Kettering]

ESPN conveniently forgets the Bengals don’t make trades.

[*jason*]

(Yesterday, 12:21 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: ESPN conveniently forgets the Bengals don’t make trades.

How quickly we forget the Khalil Herbert blockbuster. The ship is sinking fast and the team went out and banned the forgotten man in Chicago. Jokes aside he filled in admirably in a must win game.

[*Synric*]

(Yesterday, 12:15 PM)jason Wrote: I was talking strictly top 5. That was a pretty good draft class too to bottom. But Chase was the first guy off the board that lived up to it... Trevor Lawrence's salary not withstanding... I kinda like that pass rusher in Dallas.

The thing about Kyle Pitts is that he is a good receiver but he never developed into a TE. He's like Mike Gesicki can't get on the field in 11 personnel.


As for a possible trade the Raiders are getting a new coaching staff and GM so I would see what they want for Michael Mayer. If they need an extra first round pick to trade for for a QB #17 for Maxx Crosby. 

[*jason*]

(Yesterday, 12:42 PM)Synric Wrote: The thing about Kyle Pitts is that he is a good receiver but he never developed into a TE. He's like Mike Gesicki can't get on the field in 11 personnel.


As for a possible trade the Raiders are getting a new coaching staff and GM so I would see what they want for Michael Mayer. If they need an extra first round pick to trade for for a QB #17 for Maxx Crosby. 

I'd do that all day long.

[Essex Johnson]

(01-16-2025, 08:12 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Picking up Pitts sure would solve the Tee Higgins dilemma, just let him walk and put that extra $16M toward OL or Defense.

I really don't see that with Pitts, we are hoping after 4 years he actually is going to play even average to Higgins, In their careers Gesicki has shown more than Pitts, if we are looking for a TE, why not keep a guy finally that played last season with Burrow.  I think the TE market for us comes down to Higgins decision more than anything, we sign Higgins we will be going low on TE market, we don;t sign him, we go high on WR market in draft and try to resign Gesicki

[TheCincinnatiKid]

To me, we almost go around in circles on this.

Firstly, I'd be surprised if the Bengals make a trade splash for anybody.... so I imagine this isn't actually that likely.

Secondly, the number of times I've read something along the lines of 'well how the heck can any defence game plan for WR #1 and #2, and this TE and we can slit WR #3 in there too.... matchup NIGHTMARE, they cant cover them all!!!'.... it generally doesn't work out that way. We have no strong run game to take the pressure off the passing game, and we also have a very very good passing game already... but it meant nothing because we can't play defence.

I'm by no means against a trade which brings in Pitts at a reasonable cost, but this is far from the missing piece of the puzzle. I'll be gobsmacked if the absolute priority this offseason isn't 'what can we do about this defence'.... Bengals would've been a double digit winning team this year with a passable defence. Probably comfortably in the double digits too.

[Whatever]

(Yesterday, 12:06 PM)bfine32 Wrote: IDK that RT in DET is working out pretty good and that CB from DEN might work out

I heard Micah Parsons is doing some pretty good stuff in Dallas.  Waddle, Slater, and the Slim Reaper seem to be pretty good, too.  

[Whatever]

(Yesterday, 01:07 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I really don't see that with Pitts, we are hoping after 4 years he actually is going to play even average to Higgins, In their careers Gesicki has shown more than Pitts, if we are looking for a TE, why not keep a guy finally that played last season with Burrow.  I think the TE market for us comes down to Higgins decision more than anything, we sign Higgins we will be going low on TE market, we don;t sign him, we go high on WR market in draft and try to resign Gesicki

I would disagree, there. This year was only Gesicki 's third with 600+ yards.  Pitts has been a 600+ yard receiver every year he's been in the league.  Gesicki has never had a 1000 yard season, either.  Pitts has demonstrated both a higher ceiling and a higher floor.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-18-2025, 04:05 PM)Nately120 Wrote: We can trade for him, but I feel like a dude taken at #4 overall should have been way more productive regardless of how they "used him" since the Falcons have been nothing but garbage time his entire career.  I get John Ross vibes from the guy, basically you can complain the system and the coaches kept him down, but a guy taken with a premium pick should force himself into relevance through sheer ability alone.

Man, he hasn't been that bad lol

(01-18-2025, 04:18 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: He is averaging just 2 yards less per season in his career than Mike Gesicki got this year that had people all excited and hyped up for wanting to keep him despite knowing that Joe Burrow has been giving TEs massive performance bumps for 4 years now (how's Hayden Hurst and CJ Uzomah doing post-Burrow?).

If you look at per 17 games (he had one injury in his 2nd year where he missed 7 games) then he's averaging 739 yards, an average which would be the highest total for a single season a Bengals TE has had since Bob Trumpy in 1969 pre-NFL.

He was a bust as far as the #4 pick goes, but if he was the #30, he would be considered a success. Throwing him in with John Ross, who physically could not catch a football, is some outright disrespectful shit, Nately. Lol

Truth.

(01-18-2025, 08:27 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Getting Kyle Pitts and extending him to reasonable terms would be huge. Coming out, he was compared to Megatron in terms of size, speed and receiving ability.

At 6'6", 250lbs and 4.44 speed - he is a matchup nightmare. Also, he has lined up both as a slot and outside receiver in NFL. I think in his rookie year, he lined up 25% of the time as a WR. Then he got injured the second year, and has been in an average production mode since then.

Questions are whether he would be willing to extend at a reasonable number annually and also, would a seventh rounder be acceptable with the Falcons.

His wingspan also is crazy, I forget if he has the largest wingspan of any TE/Receiver of all time at the Combine?

Kyle Pitts just has things you cannot teach and if he can be taught, look out if we somehow got him here with Burrow.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 12:21 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: ESPN conveniently forgets the Bengals don’t make trades.

Reggie Nelson, BJ Hill, just lately Khalil Herbert...

Traded for all these guys. Reggie Nelson is one of my favorite Bengals of all time, a stealer killer and was a first round pick pretty sure.