Patty and the KC Cheats time up?

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 07:47 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: jj watt said it, it's the Brady/Jordan/Tiger era. I just hope Burrow gets an Eli Manning in there somehow.

How did he forgot the man has most 1sts and 2nds in golf majors the great Jack Nicklaus, come on man....

[*bengalfan74*]

(01-26-2025, 11:23 PM)Synric Wrote:

Better Vision. Better Calls.

Still literally offering all NFL refs free LASIK. pic.twitter.com/pOGHtVTYwk

— LASIK.com (@LASIKdotcom) January 27, 2025

It was a 1st down against any other team, just not vs. "the patty"

[SunsetBengal]

(01-26-2025, 11:23 PM)Synric Wrote:

Better Vision. Better Calls.

Still literally offering all NFL refs free LASIK. pic.twitter.com/pOGHtVTYwk

— LASIK.com (@LASIKdotcom) January 27, 2025

I can remember reading an SI article 40 some years ago that was envisioning the future of officiating in the NFL. One of their visions of the future had the ball with a GPS device inside of it, so that progress of a play could be accurately measured in instances where the ball was visually obscured from view of the officials.

[George Cantstandya]

(Yesterday, 09:51 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I can remember reading an SI article 40 some years ago that was envisioning the future of officiating in the NFL. One of their visions of the future had the ball with a GPS device inside of it, so that progress of a play could be accurately measured in instances where the ball was visually obscured from view of the officials.

The NFL does have RFID chips in footballs and in player equipment to track things like location and speed.  It's what NFL NEXT GEN stats uses. The chips are detected by readers positioned around the field. One problem is when it comes to spotting the ball the refs also have to decide when a player's knee or other body part that rules the player down touches the ground.  So a chip wouldn't help for that unless players had sensors pretty much all over their body as well.  Also the tech isn't super accurate right now and there is a margin of error of a few inches. But in your example where the ball is obscured I think the data could be useful. Perhaps with AI advancing to where it is they will find a way to pair the RFID location technology with visual spotting of the players body position during the play in question. 

Or the NFL will just not try to incorporate more technology and continue to enjoy the human judgment aspect of calling games. After all the drama while fans wait for an important contested call to be reviewed is part of the show like it or not. 

[Millhouse]

I don't know if I have ever been so uninterested in an upcoming Super Bowl. The worst part will be hearing about the Chiefs for two weeks on all the sports shows I listen to in background.

[*bengalfan74*]

(Yesterday, 10:30 AM)Millhouse Wrote: I don't know if I have ever been so uninterested in an upcoming Super Bowl. The worst part will be hearing about the Chiefs for two weeks on all the sports shows I listen to in background.

Me too

I'll be staying away from all sports broadcasts because I won't be able to take all the Chiefs crap. And then start praying for the Eagles.

[SunsetBengal]

(Yesterday, 10:29 AM)George Cantstandya Wrote: The NFL does have RFID chips in footballs and in player equipment to track things like location and speed.  It's what NFL NEXT GEN stats uses. The chips are detected by readers positioned around the field. One problem is when it comes to spotting the ball the refs also have to decide when a player's knee or other body part that rules the player down touches the ground.  So a chip wouldn't help for that unless players had sensors pretty much all over their body as well.  Also the tech isn't super accurate right now and there is a margin of error of a few inches. But in your example where the ball is obscured I think the data could be useful. Perhaps with AI advancing to where it is they will find a way to pair the RFID location technology with visual spotting of the players body position during the play in question. 

Or the NFL will just not try to incorporate more technology and continue to enjoy the human judgment aspect of calling games. After all the drama while fans wait for an important contested call to be reviewed is part of the show like it or not. 

Good point, as I am old enough to remember watching games before replay review was even a thing, and so many games were determined by bad calls/no calls by the officials. 

[Mickeypoo]

(Yesterday, 09:12 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: It was a 1st down against any other team, just not vs. "the patty"

First off, I can’t stand the Chiefs at this point. Secondly, the Bills have been my second team for 23 years since I moved to Bills Country. ALL my friends are huge Bills fans.

With that said, he looks short to me in that pic. All the replays I saw during the game looked extremely close, but just not quite there. Maybe stop doing the tush push 15 times and run a real play.

Also, on the contested catch, I thought that could have gone either way. I watched a bunch of replays.

IMHO, the refs called a pretty good game. Not perfect, but I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary.

Again, just my opinion.

[Goalpost]

Congrats to Samaje.

[Mickeypoo]

(Yesterday, 11:11 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Congrats to Samaje.

I was definitely happy for him! Always liked that guy.

[TecmoBengals]

(Yesterday, 10:30 AM)Millhouse Wrote: I don't know if I have ever been so uninterested in an upcoming Super Bowl. The worst part will be hearing about the Chiefs for two weeks on all the sports shows I listen to in background.

Likewise. The possible talking points that I'll dislike:

- Can the Chiefs make it three in a row?
- If Patty wins another, can he chase down Brady's record in the upcoming years?
- Taylor Swift

And if the Eagles win:

- Hurts is the 2020 NFL draft QB that wins a Super Bowl: Not Burrow, Herbert, or Tua. 

[Millhouse]

(Yesterday, 10:55 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: First off, I can’t stand the Chiefs at this point.  Secondly, the Bills have been my second team for 23 years since I moved to Bills Country.  ALL my friends are huge Bills fans.

With that said, he looks short to me in that pic. All the replays I saw during the game looked extremely close, but just not quite there. Maybe stop doing the tush push 15 times and run a real play.

Also, on the contested catch, I thought that could have gone either way. I watched a bunch of replays.

IMHO, the refs called a pretty good game.  Not perfect, but I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary.  

Again, just my opinion.

Yeah on both of those plays, if the refs would have called it an incomplete and then on the sneak a 1st down, I doubt they would have been overturned. Just didn't seem like enough evidence to overturn whatever the call on field was imo. But that's still two calls they gave the Chiefs on the field before replay.

[basballguy]

skipping super bowl this year. Can think of 100 things i'd rather do than watch another Chiefs/Eagles matchup.

[Essex Johnson]

(Yesterday, 09:12 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: It was a 1st down against any other team, just not vs. "the patty"

Major error by Allen, turning his body to where body is behind him and hard to see made call on the field stand and even then, Buffalo had the ball could have maybe finished the game either winning or go to OT and they did not get it done turned it over to KC and were unable to stop KC from gaining 2 first downs to end the game.

[Essex Johnson]

Bills only have themselves to blame, they had the ball and in control to win or take it to OT and maybe not even give KC a chance to get ball back, even when they failed on offense, they had two chances to still get the ball back by stopping KC from 1st downs but failed, the is the difference between KC and the AFC foes, they tend to finish in the 4th quarter where most others facing them do not.

[*bengalfan74*]

(Yesterday, 12:56 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Bills only have themselves to blame, they had the ball and in control to win or take it to OT and maybe not even give KC a chance to get ball back, even when they failed on offense, they had two chances to still get the ball back by stopping KC from 1st downs but failed, the is the difference between KC and the AFC foes, they tend to finish in the 4th  quarter where most others facing them do not.

This, in the big picture I agree with.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 12:56 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Bills only have themselves to blame, they had the ball and in control to win or take it to OT and maybe not even give KC a chance to get ball back, even when they failed on offense, they had two chances to still get the ball back by stopping KC from 1st downs but failed, the is the difference between KC and the AFC foes, they tend to finish in the 4th  quarter where most others facing them do not.

Yeah, sure, the refs helped the Chiefs with that terrible spot and a few other calls but the Bills could of easily won it if they ran the ball with 
James Cook more and were less predictable with the tush push to the left side of the line. The Bills choked it away and the Chiefs didn't in 
the end. BTW, I don't think the Eagles will choke it away in the Super Bowl and not run Saquon Barkley.

[Nepa]

I think Bill's fan probably feel the same as Bengals' fans: they are wasting Josh Allen's (Burrow's) prime years. But the reality is Mahomes and Andy Reid and Spagnuolo and the Chiefs' organization are just a cut above the rest. The Chiefs have been gifted with an easier division than the AFC Central (in the case of the Bengals), and it might be a completely different story if the Chiefs played in the Central, but Mahomes is a future Hall of Fame QB and Reid a future Hall of Fame coach.

Yes, the Chiefs get a lot of breaks (and if I'm part of the Bills' Mafia, I'm angry about the 4th down stop that probably wasn't), but the Chiefs were winning close playoff games before Taylor Swift took up with Kelce and before Mahomes became a popular icon. It has been rather remarkable watching their success (5 of the last 6 Super Bowls). Only the Bengals remarkable run to the 2022 Super Bowl kept them from 6 consecutive Super Bowls.

The Bills' organization has themselves to blame for trading pick 10 in 2017 to KC so they could draft Mahomes and trading the pick last year to KC so they could draft Xavier Worthy. The Bills are the one organization that may have been more snakebit than the Bengals, with some truly painful losses.

[*Nately120*]

Maybe if enough people refuse to watch the SB because the Chiefs are in the the NFL will rig it so anyone else makes the SB next year. I'm predicting people will lose their minds because the Buffalo Participation Trophy Bills are allowed to finally face off against the New Woke Look Commanders.

[Nepa]

(Yesterday, 05:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Maybe if enough people refuse to watch the SB because the Chiefs are in the the NFL will rig it so anyone else makes the SB next year.  I'm predicting people will lose their minds because the Buffalo Participation Trophy Bills are allowed to finally face off against the New Woke Look Commanders.

NFL fans are saying they won't watch the games but it will be high ratings: Taylor Swift, fans rooting against Mahomes, fans rooting for Mahomes, fans rooting for three-peat, fans rooting against three-peat, Eagles fans, can KC stop the tush push the way they stopped it with Bills, etc. And as BengalsLUFC stated above, maybe some will hope to see the KC Tight End propose to the singer (he used much more colorful language). 

I'm not saying it would be as highly rated as a Bills/Eagles game, but, as you worded it, I sure wouldn't be looking forward to seeing "the Buffalo Participation Trophy Bills ... face off against the New Woke Look Commanders." Chiefs/Eagles is probably what the NFL was clamoring for in terms of ratings, unless it were Detroit/Chiefs.