RB Need/Set?

[*bfine32*]

I hope we're not drafting anyone after RD 3 based on need. I hope we're looking at BPA.

RBs have been available later in the draft lately. Some fine favs the last few years:

Kyren Williams

Tyrone Tracy

Braelon Allen

Some favs this year  that I feel would improve the room immediately:

Phil Mafah

Ollie Gordon II

Jordan James

[SunsetBengal]

(02-24-2025, 06:44 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: We trash the team development, but Brown was a great pick and had a breakout round 2 year. This was an example of the team brought in insurance with Moss, but Brown exceeded the expectations.

We trash team development, particularly via the draft, because they have hit well on so few picks in recent years.

For every Chase Brown there seems to be a couple of failures to launch, like Myles Murphy and Dax Hill...

[Luvnit2]

(02-24-2025, 08:05 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We trash team development, particularly via the draft, because they have hit well on so few picks in recent years.

For every Chase Brown there seems to be a couple of failures to launch, like Myles Murphy and Dax Hill...

I understand, but if  a 6th round hits, why wouldn't that negate a questionable 1st round pick. I think fans expect 1st round picks to start immediatley and be all pro by year 2 or 3. That is unrealistic, draft has too many variables.

I feel if we did a better job with FA cleaning up our draft misses, we would be a lot better. All teams miss in the draft, it is nature of the beast. Take 2025, it is widely beluevd there are as low as 5 and as high as 12 true first round picks. Years ago, I did some research. If my memory is correct, 1st round picks only average a little over 5 years playing in the NFL, less tan 15% are perennial all pro players. Each round, the numbers decline and by round 4 it becomes a crap shoot. 

That was years ago, so not sure how that has aged the past 5 or 6 years. Maybe someone can do some research and let us know.

[Goalpost]

This is a good RB class. I like the two Ohio State guys because they both shared carries seemingly unselfishly.

[pulses]

(02-24-2025, 08:30 PM)Goalpost Wrote: This is a good RB class.  I like the two Ohio State guys because they both shared carries seemingly unselfishly.

But neither are good pass blockers and that's one thing Zac wants. I like the syracuse kid  Lequint Allen in the late rounds. The best pass blocking RB in this class and is great out of the backfield. He's not a burner but he'll run 4.5's and that is sufficient. And he's only 20 years old.

[pulses]

(02-24-2025, 12:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I think that we are fine with Chase Brown as the featured back, but RB is still a need as we really don't have a viable RB2 or even change of pace back. I don't think that they need to keep paying Moss, as I think that role could easily be filled by a mid-late round draft pick.

This guy here....best pass blocking back in the draft too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk3hB5QBp88&t=156s

[The D.O.Z.]

We need another guy to spell Brown. I like Herbert, but he’s a FA. Moss does nothing for me. Nor does Williams. I’m an admitted Ohio State fan and have said for three plus years now that I’d LOVE to have Tre Henderson in stripes. If we can trade back and pick up some extra picks, I’d REALLY like to spend a third round pick on him. Judkins is good too, but I’ve been a Henderson fan for years and would love to have him over any RB in this draft.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(02-24-2025, 08:39 PM)pulses Wrote: But neither are good pass blockers and that's one thing Zac wants. I like the syracuse kid  Lequint Allen in the late rounds. The best pass blocking RB in this class and is great out of the backfield. He's not a burner but he'll run 4.5's and that is sufficient. And he's only 20 years old.

(02-24-2025, 08:52 PM)pulses Wrote: This guy here....best pass blocking back in the draft too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk3hB5QBp88&t=156s

I like what I saw from Lequint Allen in this vid. Good at catching the ball out of the backfield, good in short yardage, some good burst but it 
doesn't show any pass blocking. I will take your word for it on Lequint's pass protection Pulses. Made me raise an eyebrow.

[pulses]

(02-24-2025, 10:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I like what I saw from Lequint Allen in this vid. Good at catching the ball out of the backfield, good in short yardage, some good burst but it 
doesn't show any pass blocking. I will take your word for it on Lequint's pass protection Pulses. Made me raise an eyebrow.

Scouting Report: Strengths

• Elite receiving production for the position - showcased route-running chops against Miami with 61 yards receiving, consistently winning on angle routes and option patterns
• Lethal in the red zone - demonstrated in the UNLV game where he powered through tackles for two ground scores and added two receiving touchdowns
• Crafty interior runner who sets up blocks - particularly evident against Virginia Tech where he manipulated second-level defenders to spring three touchdown runs
• Advanced pass protection awareness - consistently identifies and confronts blitzers, though technique needs refinement
• Outstanding ball security - one fumble in 524 carries reflects disciplined running style and strong concentration in traffic
• Natural hands catcher - routinely plucks balls away from his frame, as shown in his 11-reception Pinstripe Bowl performance as a freshman
• Quick-twitch lateral movement - displayed against NC State with multiple jump cuts to create positive yardage from seemingly blocked runs
• Scheme versatile - thrived in both gap and zone systems, showing patience and burst when holes develop
  

[Summerall-Madden]

Maybe having a RB over to provide on depth!

[Bengalstripes9]

Set at RB 1. Could use a good backup like Perine.

[J24]

(02-24-2025, 06:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Really like Bo Skattebo too out of Arizona State.

(02-24-2025, 06:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if Skattebo doesn't run the fastest forty. Dude is built like a FB and is known more for his hard running than his 
speed but he can do it all, pass protect, catch the ball and make big runs. Neal is another great talent. This RB class is loaded man.

Agree, this is why Moss should be cut. He didn't show much at all for what he was being paid last year and I had high hopes for the 
guy but I think he benefitted from good run blocking in Indy. Chase Brown was a better pass protector last season and that is why I 
am sure we brought in Moss in the first place.

Love Skattebo, Dude reminds me of Perine!

[*Go Cards*]

it is my belief that adding fresh legs on the cheap to the RB room is a good and necessary evil.

[*Go Cards*]

(02-24-2025, 08:05 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We trash team development, particularly via the draft, because they have hit well on so few picks in recent years.

For every Chase Brown there seems to be a couple of failures to launch, like Myles Murphy and Dax Hill...

Was never really sold on the Murphy selection, yet really thought Dax was a can't miss player when drafting. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(02-24-2025, 11:46 PM)pulses Wrote: Scouting Report: Strengths

• Elite receiving production for the position - showcased route-running chops against Miami with 61 yards receiving, consistently winning on angle routes and option patterns
• Lethal in the red zone - demonstrated in the UNLV game where he powered through tackles for two ground scores and added two receiving touchdowns
• Crafty interior runner who sets up blocks - particularly evident against Virginia Tech where he manipulated second-level defenders to spring three touchdown runs
• Advanced pass protection awareness - consistently identifies and confronts blitzers, though technique needs refinement
• Outstanding ball security - one fumble in 524 carries reflects disciplined running style and strong concentration in traffic
• Natural hands catcher - routinely plucks balls away from his frame, as shown in his 11-reception Pinstripe Bowl performance as a freshman
• Quick-twitch lateral movement - displayed against NC State with multiple jump cuts to create positive yardage from seemingly blocked runs
• Scheme versatile - thrived in both gap and zone systems, showing patience and burst when holes develop
  

Sounds like a perfect fit for what we need at RB. Nicely done Pulses.

(02-25-2025, 01:28 AM)J24 Wrote: Love Skattebo, Dude reminds me of Perine!

I could see that, both are built like FB's and are extremely hard to tackle, Skattebo is a better pass catcher though and think he has better quicks.

Both are tough as nails and good in pass pro.

[puddycat]

Must add to the room. I'd like another shifty pass-catcher, but needs some juice 'cause our OL can't block for screens. Until our OL becomes mobile a big back is a waste.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(02-26-2025, 04:28 AM)puddycat Wrote: Must add to the room.  I'd like another shifty pass-catcher, but needs some juice 'cause our OL can't block for screens.  Until our OL becomes mobile a big back is a waste.

Painting with too broad of a brush there Puddycat. Big Backs can have juice, Ashton Jeanty ain't no little Back but we all saw what he did last 
season nearly breaking Barry Sanders record. Mims is extremely athletic and if we add a couple athletic Guards we might be better on screens.

Skattebo is a big Back and he has some juice and was great on screens at Arizona State.

[BoomerFan]

(02-24-2025, 08:05 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We trash team development, particularly via the draft, because they have hit well on so few picks in recent years.

For every Chase Brown there seems to be a couple of failures to launch, like Myles Murphy and Dax Hill...

(02-25-2025, 07:10 AM)Go Cards Wrote: Was never really sold on the Murphy selection, yet really thought Dax was a can't miss player when drafting. 

Wasn't Dax our best starting corner before injuries? OK that's a low bar as our corners weren't great but he was coming into being a strong starter at the position. I don't think of him as a failure to launch. Basically I'd say he's expected value for a late first rounder. 

[SunsetBengal]

(02-27-2025, 02:05 AM)BoomerFan Wrote: Wasn't Dax our best starting corner before injuries? OK that's a low bar as our corners weren't great but he was coming into being a strong starter at the position. I don't think of him as a failure to launch. Basically I'd say he's expected value for a late first rounder. 

I think that you just answered your own question.

[Millhouse]

(02-24-2025, 09:01 PM)The D.O.Z. Wrote: We need another guy to spell Brown. I like Herbert, but he’s a FA. Moss does nothing for me. Nor does Williams. I’m an admitted Ohio State fan and have said for three plus years now that I’d LOVE to have Tre Henderson in stripes. If we can trade back and pick up some extra picks, I’d REALLY like to spend a third round pick on him. Judkins is good too, but I’ve been a Henderson fan for years and would love to have him over any RB in this draft.

It'll be interesting to see where they end up in the draft. I wonder how much of an effect Sequan Barkley and Derrick Henry will have on where running backs are drafted, with the year and impact they had.