They're Done!!! Our long wait is over

[THE PISTONS]

(03-17-2025, 11:24 AM)George Cantstandya Wrote: That would be great but hopefully more than 17 games this year.  20 games would be preferable. 

It's hard to say we improved our roster a ton at this point. Maybe some improvements around the margins.

Still much work to do before we talk SB.

[ERIC1]

lol@ our "long wait"......Chase was always going to happen..I am surprised the team resigned higgins considering his injury history..But anyway..knowing that Chase and Higs are signed,..I know many that will slept better @night..Beth and I will get out the Pappy , dance a jig and pray that the team secures another good guard ,linebacker and DL ...

[George Cantstandya]

(03-17-2025, 11:26 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to say we improved our roster a ton at this point. Maybe some improvements around the margins.

Still much work to do before we talk SB.

I agree.  But still I'm hoping he plays more than 17 games.   :)

[Luvnit2]

(03-17-2025, 11:27 AM)George Cantstandya Wrote: I agree.  But still I'm hoping he plays more than 17 games.   :)

The key to improving the roster one more time is to improve our OL play, starting with signing better guard(s).

Then on defense, add talent in the draft and develop the young guys on the roster now.

[Destro]

Been a hugely beaten horse, but need to have some really good players in this draft. They need to be deep into evaluations and scouting.

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-17-2025, 08:31 AM)Nepa Wrote: Bengals front office were able to negotiate a lower amount of guaranteed money for Chase ($112 million) than Cleveland gave Myles Garrett ($123.5 million) and just barely above on the annual salary. I think these numbers will become more and more reasonable with time, just as Burrow's contract did.

Yep. Next couple of years as the cap goes up and the market goes up, these contracts will be very reasonable.

Also, that's only 2M more guaranteed than JJ got.

[higgy100]

(03-17-2025, 11:17 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I hope everyone can agree our offense with very good with 2 lousy starting guards. Our defense was horrid. It was a combo of talent and injuries to key defensive players.

It is a luxaryin the NFL to only have tso fix one side of the ball. I would argue we also have very good specail teams. Our unter was great and I trust and like Money Mac.

I was not on the keep Higgins train, but I am hopeful our FO has watched others build their rosters by pushing cap to future years. If so, there is. no reason they can't continue to keep adding FA's.

I just heard Stephen Smith so Bengals redzone offense was 3rd worst in the NFL. If true, they need to fix it and sky is limit for our offense.

The next time SAS gets a stat right might be his first. Cinci. was 5th in the league last year at 63.93% in Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) if this is what he's talking about. Problem with SAS is because he's such a loudmouth and making 20mm per year, he doesn't believe anybody would ever take the time to look up this stat or any stats he shouts out.


SAS also said when OSU QB Dwayne Haskens was drafted by Washington that they were using him entirely wrong.He said DH was an athletic QB and needed him to run. Anybody that followed OSU and saw him play knew his running ability was next to nothing and that he was 100% a drop-back QB. SAS got called out on that and apologized. 

[Ell Prez]

I think important to note, for all those who didn’t really think we should resign Tee.

If we had other players (draft picks) that hit, we probably wouldn’t sign Tee. If CTB, Hill, Carter, Carmen Jackson, Murphy, etc were all playing extremely well, we would probably prioritize a balanced roster. But the truth is we don’t have anyone to sign.

Most of picks have been misses/busts/underwhelming. We decided to retain a highly talented 25 year old. One who helps the team win games. Based on all the realistic options, we needed to sign him.

[Luvnit2]

(03-17-2025, 11:38 AM)higgy100 Wrote: The next time SAS gets a stat right might be his first. Cinci. was 5th in the league last year at 63.93% in Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) if this is what he's talking about. Problem with SAS is because he's such a loudmouth and making 20mm per year, he doesn't believe anybody would ever take the time to look up this stat or any stats he shouts out.


SAS also said when OSU QB Dwayne Haskens was drafted by Washington that they were using him entirely wrong.He said DH was an athletic QB and needed him to run. Anybody that followed OSU and saw him play knew his running ability was next to nothing and that he was 100% a drop-back QB. SAS got called out on that and apologized. 

TY, yes I lookedit up amd maybe I did not hear correctly. Bengals were 5th best, maybe he said that or was wrong.

As for defense, our defense was polar opposite. Bengals were 3rd worst defense in the NFL giving up TD's in the redzone. They improvein that area, we win a lot more games.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-red-zone-scoring-pct

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

I really hope this works out as a Bengals fan because I want to see success, but I can't fully ignore the fact that we had a great offense and shitty defense and it feels like we just decided to spend a whole lot more on the same offense instead of spending money to fix the defense...and just trying to run it back and yet again hope for better results than we've been getting.

An awful lot of money to Tee for a guy who last had 1k yards three years ago.

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-17-2025, 11:01 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I think they get a vet guard but not a very good one. Then they draft one in the third. Then between Kirkland,Ford,Volson, and the mediocre free agent and the rookie they pick 2.

If i had to put money down right now, i'd say the plan would be Kirkland and Ford at G with Volson on the bench and they draft another one plus maybe pick up a post TC cut. 

[Luvnit2]

(03-17-2025, 12:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: If i had to put money down right now, i'd say the plan would be Kirkland and Ford at G with Volson on the bench and they draft another one plus maybe pick up a post TC cut. 

I would take that bet.

There are very inexpensive guards who haven proven to be much better like Risner. If healthy, he will be a very inexpensive option. In 2024, he made 2.4 million.

[jj22]

(03-17-2025, 11:53 AM)Ell Prez Wrote: I think important to note, for all those who didn’t really think we should resign Tee.

If we had other players (draft picks) that hit, we probably wouldn’t sign Tee. If CTB, Hill, Carter, Carmen Jackson, Murphy, etc were all playing extremely well, we would probably prioritize a balanced roster. But the truth is we don’t have anyone to sign.

Most of picks have been misses/busts/underwhelming. We decided to retain a highly talented 25 year old. One who helps the team win games. Based on all the realistic options, we needed to sign him.

This is also the argument for not to sign Tee long term. Now we have to hit on these picks and the FO did nothing (update scout(ing) department) to signal a change in philosophy or renewed focus on scouting that it would require to suddenly start hitting on picks (that aren't top 5) again. 

Hitting on picks is what got Eagles the Championship. KC did it the Patriots way by not holding on to the SB winning players and letting talent go every year. 

We are banking on the Eagles route and we'll just have to wait and see if suddenly something changes with the draft.

[SunsetBengal]

(03-17-2025, 11:26 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's hard to say we improved our roster a ton at this point. Maybe some improvements around the margins.

Still much work to do before we talk SB.

Exactly, what we had last year wasn't enough. Any news on how the cap shakes out, after the extensions are applied?

[phil413]

(03-17-2025, 12:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: If i had to put money down right now, i'd say the plan would be Kirkland and Ford at G with Volson on the bench and they draft another one plus maybe pick up a post TC cut. 

It's a pretty horrible plan if they do that.  No matter that Ford looked a bit better by default, he's your 3rd tackle/6th man.  Volson is good enough to have a job but can get pushed off by a late rd pick.  Kirkland may have shown flashes but coming off an injury it's nuts to pencil him in even.  They absolutely have to sign at least one vet even if they're replacement level (if football had a WAR stat).  With all the defensive help needed and opportunities for Golden to mold his group, they take BPA but lean defense no way do you plan for a mid round rookie to start. 

[phil413]

(03-17-2025, 12:09 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would take that bet.

There are very inexpensive guards who haven proven to be much better like Risner. If healthy, he will be a very inexpensive option. In 2024, he made 2.4 million.

Risner is possibly the 3rd or 4th best guard available, I'd expect a raise but I'd pounce on him if he was in the 3M range. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-17-2025, 12:09 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would take that bet.

There are very inexpensive guards who haven proven to be much better like Risner. If healthy, he will be a very inexpensive option. In 2024, he made 2.4 million.

The lower cap #s should easily make this possible. We'll see how it goes. I'm certainly in on bringing a FA g in. The WR signings could potentially open the flood gates for getting other things done. Trey extension and more guys from FA. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-17-2025, 12:13 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Exactly, what we had last year wasn't enough. Any news on how the cap shakes out, after the extensions are applied?

I can look at the potential for the "same guys" being an improvement over last year with Dax moving to slot corner, DJ coming back, Ossai taking over for Sam and drafting a top safety and hitting on a G and ED in the draft. Lanes are still open for improvement on the D with just a little work and smarts. 

[Ell Prez]

(03-17-2025, 12:11 PM)jj22 Wrote: This is also the argument for not to sign Tee long term. Now we have to hit on these picks and the FO did nothing (update scout(ing) department) to signal a change in philosophy or renewed focus on scouting that it would require to suddenly start hitting on picks (that aren't top 5) again. 

Hitting on picks is what got Eagles the Championship. KC did it the Patriots way by not holding on to the SB winning players and letting talent go every year. 

We are banking on the Eagles route and we'll just have to wait and see if suddenly something changes with the draft.

We need to hit on picks regardless. The alternative to not signing Tee was to go FA. And what’s more likely? Bengals singing their own or external?

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-17-2025, 12:13 PM)phil413 Wrote: It's a pretty horrible plan if they do that.  No matter that Ford looked a bit better by default, he's your 3rd tackle/6th man.  Volson is good enough to have a job but can get pushed off by a late rd pick.  Kirkland may have shown flashes but coming off an injury it's nuts to pencil him in even.  They absolutely have to sign at least one vet even if they're replacement level (if football had a WAR stat).  With all the defensive help needed and opportunities for Golden to mold his group, they take BPA but lean defense no way do you plan for a mid round rookie to start. 

I'm certainly not a fan of it...but i have to look at how they usually do things. Try guys out that are in-house first, before going another way. Maybe it plays out different, maybe not. We'll see soon enough.